Mozilla Firefox 3.5 RC1 test build 1

[+Frank B. Subscriber²]

It can be found here (if you're daring enough to install it):

http://ftp.mozilla.org/pub/mozilla.org/fir...didates/build1/

Windows builds are for the time being under /unsigned/ .

This build also comes with the new application icon:

[Kirkburn]

Be careful about this, it's generally better to wait for the final RC1 build when it's been signed off.

As for the icon, very cool - I've been watching its development on http://blog.mozilla.com/faaborg/

[Penryn]

nvm i found it thnx btw.

[ViperAFK]

I liked the old icon better.

[Quillz]

I like the new icon better.

[phot0nic]

I think that at large sizes, the new icon is amazing. However, I'm not a fan of the 16x16 icon. The fox seems too 'red'. I guess it's not much of a problem now though, because Windows 7 uses large taskbar icons.

[boogerjones]

Be careful about this, it's generally better to wait for the final RC1 build when it's been signed off.

Unless there's an error in the build, Build 1 will become the official RC1 build. There will not be any browser code changes between builds. Occasionally there's a second or third build, but it's almost always to fix some l10 language file minutia. So it's safe to use it.

[Malisk]

I think that at large sizes, the new icon is amazing. However, I'm not a fan of the 16x16 icon. The fox seems too 'red'. I guess it's not much of a problem now though, because Windows 7 uses large taskbar icons.

Yeah, I think it looks really crisp and nice on OS X. :) Almost standing out more than the other app icons. :p

[boogerjones]

However, I'm not a fan of the 16x16 icon. The fox seems too 'red'.

Agreed. The logo's outline color is too strong.

Yeah, I think it looks really crisp and nice on OS X.

The shadow is clipped. Mozilla should create a slightly smaller icon for OS X.

[Juan4Ever]

This build also comes with the new application icon

I'm sorry, is new?(I do not see any new on it) I guess I am missing something here...

[Kirkburn]

I'm sorry, is new?(I do not see any new on it) I guess I am missing something here...

If it's too hard to bother to look it up, compare to http://abcdefu.files.wordpress.com/2008/06/firefox.jpg

[Ci7]

thx just updated to the new build.

and btw the new icon look awesome :D

[Yusuf M. Veteran]

When can we expect the final version?

[ViperAFK]

Well, The new icon is nicer at a larer size, but on the superbar with large icons it looks kinda crappy compared to the old one, it's not as sharp and has a weird looking reddish outline.

[Juan4Ever]

If it's too hard to bother to look it up, compare to http://abcdefu.files.wordpress.com/2008/06/firefox.jpg

so, it is just an improved version... I still could say it is cooler, but not new...

[phot0nic]

so, it is just an improved version... I still could say it is cooler, but not new...

No, it's very much a new icon. It just has the same design.

[ViZioN]

so, it is just an improved version... I still could say it is cooler, but not new...

If you need a replacement car do you say you're looking for an improved car, or a new car? :rolleyes:

[Juan4Ever]

If you need a replacement car do you say you're looking for an improved car, or a new car? :rolleyes:

if somebody sells you your old car just with a new paint job, you still will say it is a new car?

anyway, i take the point...

[phot0nic]

if somebody sells you your old car just with a new paint job, you still will say it is a new car?

Hey, don't take any offense, because I don't really want to start an argument, but I'd like to point out that your analogy isn't valid.

You see, a car is a machine whose primary purpose is transportation. The "paint job" and it's appearance in general is completely superficial and trivial.

An icon on the other hand is an image, that serves NO purpose other than appearance. Thus, changing the appearance is far from trivial.

In this situation, they are changing appearance, which is what makes an icon, an icon. A proper analogy would be if someone changed the thing in a car, that made it a car in the first place (possibly the engine? body?). In which case, yes, I would call that a new car.

[Juan4Ever]

Hey, don't take any offense

None taken...

, because I don't really want to start an argument, but I'd like to point out that your analogy isn't valid.

You see, a car is a machine whose primary purpose is transportation. The "paint job" and it's appearance in general is completely superficial and trivial.

An icon on the other hand is an image, that serves NO purpose other than appearance. Thus, changing the appearance is far from trivial.

In this situation, they are changing appearance, which is what makes an icon, an icon. A proper analogy would be if someone changed the thing in a car, that made it a car in the first place (possibly the engine? body?). In which case, yes, I would call that a new car.

But the icons are pretty much the same (the old and the "new" one)... you have to compare both at large size to noticed a diference...

as you said

No, it's very much a new icon. It just has the same design.

anyway... I do not want to discuss it any longer ... I does not matter is I am right or not.

[Sub_Zero_Alchemist]

When can we expect the final version?

At this rate their going, i say early july... doesn't look like it's coming out in june, and as for

the new icon. im not to impress with it, if it ain't broke why fix it. stick with the old icon.

[Kirkburn]

anyway... I do not want to discuss it any longer ... I does not matter is I am right or not.

Fair enough. But you're wrong. :)

It's an overhauled icon, that is new. Anyway, I link http://blog.mozilla.com/faaborg/ again, since it goes over the whole matter in lots of detail.

[JOHW]

Well, The new icon is nicer at a larer size, but on the superbar with large icons it looks kinda crappy compared to the old one, it's not as sharp and has a weird looking reddish outline.

I agree..It just looks weird..

Well back to Opera after a month's use of 3.5 betas/RC..Firefox is just too slow...

[Quillz]

Will this auto-update to the RC when it's ready?

And it looks and acts quite well on Mac OS X, although not quite as smooth as Safari. And with Snow Leopard coming up, it'd be nice to get a 64-bit version of Firefox 3.5.

[Calum Veteran]

Well back to Opera after a month's use of 3.5 betas/RC..Firefox is just too slow...

Unfortunately, I have to agree :( Since using a browser with the Webkit engine in, Firefox seems to be worse at rendering webpages for me. Also, the application doesn't load as fast.

Using Firefox and the Gecko engine seems clunky to me now. Mozilla really need to work on that next. They have enough good features and extension support helps, but with it being so slow for me, I cannot use it :(

About this release, I do prefer the new icon. After reading Alex Faarborg's blog, it appears they wish the red outline to be there in the 16x16px icon. Does anybody have a screenshot of what it looks like on the Windows 7 taskbar, with large icons, please? :)