Have Back Classic Start Menu In Windows 7 With This Tool!


Recommended Posts

Do you want to revised your statement?

Strange, I'm seeing quite different results to you.

With Aero:

withaero.jpg

Without Aero:

withoutaero.jpg

I have no idea why I'm seeing one more process running on the shot taken without aero, but it's not quite the 4 process difference we see on your shot, and as you can see, RAM usage is virtually identical. Absolutely no point disabling it on this system.

Admittedly that shot was taken with Windows 7 Basic enabled, but I see the same thing even with Classic. I can't feel any performance difference, and really, if I wanted to have less RAM utilised, I'd just run XP x64.

Nobody in their right mind would pay to have an obselete feature put back into Windows.

It's like paying ?17 forrrr... *thinks* The flying windows screensaver.

And the second shot doesn't have Aero running. It's just the Vista Basic theme. You're bound to free up resources by turning of Theming - but only a little. Modern systems don't feel the pinch.

Nobody in their right mind would pay to have an obselete feature put back into Windows.

It's like paying ?17 forrrr... *thinks* The flying windows screensaver.

And the second shot doesn't have Aero running. It's just the Vista Basic theme.

You know as well as I do, someone will come out with a freeware version.

Um, the second shot still has Aero running.

It's actually Windows 7 Basic, which has transparency disabled. As I stated in my post though, I see exactly the same even with Classic mode enabled so it doesn't matter. Here goes:

noaero-classic.jpg

Ok, a 10MB difference in RAM utilisation, which could even be down to background stuff. Hardly a difference even worth mentioning.

The other thing you're failing to realise is the program used to emulate the 'Classic Mode' will in itself have a resource overhead above standard running Windows footprint. You'll be using more RAM to use less RAM to ignore the technological developments and memory management in Vista/7 and live in the dark ages. It does seem rather fruitless.

It's actually Windows 7 Basic, which has transparency disabled. As I stated in my post though, I see exactly the same even with Classic mode enabled so it doesn't matter. Here goes:

noaero-classic.jpg

Ok, a 10MB difference in RAM utilisation, which could even be down to background stuff. Hardly a difference even worth mentioning.

Your screenshot is not showing up.

EDIT: Now it showed up, was giving a little red x before.

The other thing you're failing to realise is the program used to emulate the 'Classic Mode' will in itself have a resource overhead above standard running Windows footprint. You'll be using more RAM to use less RAM to ignore the technological developments and memory management in Vista/7 and live in the dark ages. It does seem rather fruitless.

The memory management is still there, regardless of what mode it's running in, that doesn't change.

If someone tries to save his RAM by doing things like reverting to the classic start menu or such, one should probably stick with XP...

XP doesn't natively use the Classic Start Menu either!

The memory management is still there, regardless of what mode it's running in, that doesn't change.

XP doesn't natively use the Classic Start Menu either!

I'm fully aware the memory management is still there. This brings me back to my point about researching windows memory management. Due to the nature in which Vista and 7 manage your memory, having boatloads of unused free RAM is not a good thing. As such, in your efforts to have as much 'free' RAM, you're really not doing yourself any favours.

I'm fully aware the memory management is still there. This brings me back to my point about researching windows memory management. Due to the nature in which Vista and 7 manage your memory, having boatloads of unused free RAM is not a good thing. As such, in your efforts to have as much 'free' RAM, you're really not doing yourself any favours.

By the way, memory management works better in Win7 with graphics RAM than it does in Vista because of certain changes they made, I remember an article that was posted on here while I was just a lurker. Here is the article:

https://www.neowin.net/forum/index.php?show...=765060&hl=

What defines a "better way"?

If I can accomplish tasks via the command line much faster than you can do them via a GUI (and often things you CAN'T do without having a specialized tool for it), does that mean your "new" way is improved and better just because it's "easier" or "flashier"?

If people are content using the classic start menu, why deprive them something that has worked for them for so long? Just implement it alongside the new way of doing things and you'll please both sides of the fence.

Because people complain that Microsoft doesn't make a "totally new" Windows (stripped out legacy code, icons, tech, etc.) and yet when they attempt to do this, people complain that the old ways were better, that there's no incompatibility, etc.

And then if Microsoft was to add the classic Start menu into Win7, people would complain the OS was bloated.

Also, comparing the CLI to the GUI is a little different, since there are many uses were you NEED a CLI. But a Start menu, it's just cosmetic. The new method is much better in terms of execution and design. People who prefer the older method likely do so because it's what their used to, and not necessarily because that method is better.

It's like with the new taskbar's placement of the "Show Desktop" button. The old location never much adhered to Fitt's Law. The new button does, being larger and located in an extreme corner. Thus, the new taskbar implements a simple function in a better way. But not everyone likes it, likely because they're used to the old placement in Win95/WinXP, etc.

This topic is now closed to further replies.
  • Recently Browsing   0 members

    • No registered users viewing this page.
  • Posts

    • Nothing kills CMF Phone 2 Pro's successor due to rising memory prices by Hamid Ganji Storage and RAM prices have been rising over the past year, leading to a significant increase in the cost of electronics for customers around the world. Many companies are now revising their plans for upcoming devices due to higher component costs and overall production expenses. CMF is the latest company to cancel the successor to one of its best-selling phones due to rising memory prices. CMF is a sub-brand of Nothing and focuses on making budget smartphones for growing markets. The brand launched the CMF Phone 2 Pro last year with some eye-catching specifications and an affordable price. While many customers may have been waiting for a successor this year, one of the company’s executives has announced that CMF will not release a new smartphone this year. And AI is to blame. As Nothing co-founder Akis Evangelidis announced on X, the company has been working on a successor to the CMF Phone 2 Pro, but with current memory prices, it cannot “build a phone that feels like a genuine step forward at a price that makes sense for CMF.” So, no new CMF phone will be launched this year. Meanwhile, Evangelidis said the company still has several new products in the pipeline, including some in entirely new categories. He added that the Nothing brand will also continue launching new products through 2026. Budget smartphones are among the first victims of the surge in RAM and memory prices, as they have become more expensive to build. The sharp increase in memory costs could also reshape the traditional price ranges associated with budget phones. Apple CEO Tim Cook also recently said that price increases for some of the company’s products are unavoidable because RAM and memory have become significantly more expensive this year. Analysts estimate that the base price of the upcoming iPhone 18 Pro could rise to $1,399 due to current market shortages.
    • Nudge me when they bring back hardware audio acceleration so I can get my EAX 5 back. We've evolved graphics to real-time path tracing, but regressed audio some 15 years back in time with this stupid software audio stack.
    • Ocenaudio 3.19.4 by Razvan Serea  Ocenaudio is a full featured, fast and easy to use audio and music editor. It is the ideal software for people who need to edit and analyze audio files without complications. Ocenaudio also has powerful features that will please more advanced users. To assist ocenaudio development, a powerful toolset of audio editing, analysis and manipulation called Ocen Framework was created. ocenaudio is also based on Qt framework, a well known library for cross-platform development. Cross-platform support ocenaudio is available for all major operating systems: Microsoft Windows, Mac OS X and Linux. Native applications are generated for each platform from a common source, in order to achieve excelent performance and seamless integration with the operating system. All versions of ocenaudio have a uniform set of features and the same graphical interface, so the skills you learn in one platform can be used in the others. VST plugins support Ocenaudio supports VST (Virtual Studio Technology) plugins, giving its users access to numerous effects. Like the native effects, VST effects can use real-time preview to aide configuration. Real-time preview of effects Applying effects such as EQ, gain and filtering is an important part of audio editing. However, it is very tricky to get the desired result by adjusting the controls configuration alone: you must listen the processed audio. To ease the configuration of audio effects, ocenaudio has a real time preview feature: you hear the processed signal while adjusting the controls. The effect configuration window also includes a miniature view of the selected audio signal. You can navigate on this miniature view in the same way as you do on the main interface, selecting parts that interest you and listening to the effect result in real time. Multiselection for delicate editions To speed up complex audio files editing, ocenaudio includes multi-selection. With this amazing tool, you can simultaneously select different portions of an audio file and listen, edit or even apply an effect to them. For example, if you want to normalize only the excerpts of an interview where the interviewee is talking, just select them and apply the effect. Eficient edition of large files With ocenaudio, there is no limit to the length or the quantity of the audio files you can edit. Using an advanced memory management system, the application keeps your files open without wasting any of your computer's memory. Even in files several hours long, common editing operations such as copy, cut or paste happen almost instantly. Fully featured spectrogram Besides offering an incredible waveform view of your audio files, ocenaudio has a powerful and complete spectrogram view. In this view, you can analyze the spectral content of your audio signal with maximum clarity. Advanced users will be surprised to find that the spectrogram settings are applied in real time. The display is updated immediately when altering features such as the number of frequency bands, window type and size and dynamic range of the display. Ocenaudio 3.19.4 changelog: Adds fallback fonts so every language and symbol displays correctly Improves autosave and session recovery stability Improves region navigation and display Fixes a crash when the level meter is used on displays with a scaling greater than 200% Fixes memory corruption when using the silence selection tools Fixes crashes when closing a file while effects are still being processed Fixes a freeze when applying effects to many files at once (macOS) Fixes crashes related to audio devices on Windows Fixes invalid file names when exporting regions whose label is used as the file name Other bug fixes and improvements Download: Ocenaudio 64-bit | Portable | ~40.0 MB (Freeware) Download: Ocenaudio for Linux and Mac OS View: Ocenaudio Homepage | Screenshot Get alerted to all of our Software updates on Twitter at @NeowinSoftware
    • Hasleo Disk Clone 5.8.2.1 by Razvan Serea Hasleo Disk Clone is a free and all-in-one disk cloning software for Windows 11/10/8/7/Vista and Windows Server that can help you migrate Windows OS to another disk, clone one disk to another disk or clone one partition to another location quickly and efficiently. Completely Free Windows Migration and Disk/Partition Cloning Software Migrate Windows from one disk to another without reinstalling Windows, apps. Clone one disk to another and makes the data on 2 disks are exactly the same. Clone a partition to another location without losing any data. Easily adjust the size and location of the destination partition. Convert MBR to GPT or convert GPT to MBR by cloning. Creation of Windows PE emergency disk. Extremely fast cloning speed and multi-language support. Supported OS: Windows Vista/Server 2008 or later, fully compatible with GPT and UEFI. Hasleo Disk Clone 5.8.2.1 changelog: Fixed an issue that caused disk enumeration to fail Fixed an issue where WinPE created under Windows ARM64 26H1 did not work properly Download: Hasleo Disk Clone 5.8.2.1 | 32.3 MB (Freeware) Link: Hasleo Disk Clone Home Page | Screenshot Get alerted to all of our Software updates on Twitter at @NeowinSoftware
    • This got me thinking, would you rather a self driving car prioritise protecting its passengers or everyone else? I'd choose the one that keeps me and my kids safest. At some point, these cars have to make those choices already, don't they? Wonder if we have a way to find out what way they lean.
  • Recent Achievements

    • Collaborator
      ryansurfer98 went up a rank
      Collaborator
    • Week One Done
      Eurosoft10 earned a badge
      Week One Done
    • One Month Later
      Eurosoft10 earned a badge
      One Month Later
    • One Year In
      Skeet Campbell earned a badge
      One Year In
    • One Month Later
      Sharbel earned a badge
      One Month Later
  • Popular Contributors

    1. 1
      +primortal
      546
    2. 2
      +Edouard
      188
    3. 3
      Michael Scrip
      78
    4. 4
      PsYcHoKiLLa
      74
    5. 5
      neufuse
      71
  • Tell a friend

    Love Neowin? Tell a friend!