Does Windows 7 need tcp ip patch!?

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ZombieFly

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  Mephistopheles said:
In one word: No.

The TCP/IP patch was never needed; it's nothing more than a placebo.

/me waits for BudMan to see this thread

unfortunately you're way off there. The limit was introduced in vista and then removed in 7.

So no, no need for patch.

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Julius Caro

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  ZombieFly said:
unfortunately you're way off there. The limit was introduced in vista and then removed in 7.

So no, no need for patch.

The limit was introduced in XP SP2. And you may be correct, I cant find any event in the event viewer related to the limit in windows7.

And while the patch was never needed, some weird combinations of devices, drivers and windows7 can really slow down torrents for no apparent reason.

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MagicAndre1981

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  illwillnos said:
um, the tcp/ip patch made a HUGE difference for torrents from xp sp2 until vista sp2

if you think it was a placebo you're talking out of your ass

no, I have 6MB/s with and without the tcpip patch :rolleyes:

So it's useless.

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boogerjones

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  MagicAndre1981 said:
no, I have 6MB/s with and without the tcpip patch :rolleyes:

So it's useless.

In XP and Vista < SP2, the limit makes a significant difference, but not in overall speed. Eventually enough clients will connect and you'll get good speed, but it will take much longer with the connection limit. Also, while the torrent client is using up half-open connections, your web pages will take a while to load because the web requests have to wait for connections as well. The connection limit was always pointless (it makes no significant impact on the spread of viruses; there are a number of tech bloggers who have proven this). And Microsoft has acknowledged that it's pointless by removing the limit in Vista SP2 and Windows 7. Every time someone posts about the TCP half-open connection limit, I see the same idiots posting about how it doesn't affect torrents. But it does, and why the **** would people complain about how their torrents slowed to a crawl for a while with the limit in place, then be perfectly happy when the TCP limit patch from LVLLord came out?
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  illwillnos said:
um, the tcp/ip patch made a HUGE difference for torrents from xp sp2 until vista sp2

if you think it was a placebo you're talking out of your ass

but yes, the patch is no longer needed if you're using windows 7

I used that patch on XP all the time, and never noticed any real speed difference at all. I agree that it was a placebo

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bruNo_

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Well, i had problems like that when i've installed Vista here for the first time (without SP). I wasn't able to update my Windows and access some sites, after a looooong search on google I've found there's some changes on Vista's MTU settings, I don't know about Windows 7, but hope it helps you. :)

http://www.annoyances.org/exec/forum/winvista/t1158155937

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  illwillnos said:
um, the tcp/ip patch made a HUGE difference for torrents from xp sp2 until vista sp2

if you think it was a placebo you're talking out of your ass

but yes, the patch is no longer needed if you're using windows 7

It only seemed like it did. The only difference is the client can attempt to connect to more sources when the transfer starts. It doesn't affect the speed of the transfers a bit.

  xiphi said:
You are aware that there is no limit on 7, right?

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I wouldn't be so sure about that...

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