Does Windows 7 need tcp ip patch!?

[DayDay]

Does Windows 7 need tcp ip patch!?

Because when I use BT, It just so slow

[Raa]

No, but it does need a registry tweak to enact the change I believe.

[+Frank B. Subscriber²]

In one word: No.

The TCP/IP patch was never needed; it's nothing more than a placebo.

/me waits for BudMan to see this thread

[brentaal]

  DayDay said:

Does Windows 7 need tcp ip patch!?

Because when I use BT, It just so slow

There is no maximum half-open connection limit in Win7, so even if you think removing the limit would improve your BT speeds, there is no need for it in Win7.

[ZombieFly]

  Mephistopheles said:

In one word: No.

The TCP/IP patch was never needed; it's nothing more than a placebo.

/me waits for BudMan to see this thread

unfortunately you're way off there. The limit was introduced in vista and then removed in 7.

So no, no need for patch.

[Julius Caro]

  ZombieFly said:

unfortunately you're way off there. The limit was introduced in vista and then removed in 7.

So no, no need for patch.

The limit was introduced in XP SP2. And you may be correct, I cant find any event in the event viewer related to the limit in windows7.

And while the patch was never needed, some weird combinations of devices, drivers and windows7 can really slow down torrents for no apparent reason.

[franzon]

Notable Changes in Windows Server 2008 SP2 and Windows Vista SP2:

"SP2 removes the limit of 10 half open outbound TCP connections. By default, SP2 has no limit on the number of half open outbound TCP connections."

[Arkos Reed]

I don't see why one would need the patch in the 1st place, I never had any BT speed related issues

[MagicAndre1981]

  Mephistopheles said:

In one word: No.

The TCP/IP patch was never needed; it's nothing more than a placebo.

right (Y)

[ScorpioRGc1]

Well, I tested the patch on my Win7 RC install just to see what would happen and when I ran it, it told me it wasn't needed, so I guess there's no limit anymore after all. :)

[illwill916]

um, the tcp/ip patch made a HUGE difference for torrents from xp sp2 until vista sp2

if you think it was a placebo you're talking out of your ass

but yes, the patch is no longer needed if you're using windows 7

[franzon]

  illwillnos said:

if you're using windows 7

or Vista SP2 :D

[MagicAndre1981]

  illwillnos said:

um, the tcp/ip patch made a HUGE difference for torrents from xp sp2 until vista sp2

if you think it was a placebo you're talking out of your ass

no, I have 6MB/s with and without the tcpip patch :rolleyes:

So it's useless.

[boogerjones]

  MagicAndre1981 said:

no, I have 6MB/s with and without the tcpip patch :rolleyes:

So it's useless.

In XP and Vista < SP2, the limit makes a significant difference, but not in overall speed. Eventually enough clients will connect and you'll get good speed, but it will take much longer with the connection limit. Also, while the torrent client is using up half-open connections, your web pages will take a while to load because the web requests have to wait for connections as well. The connection limit was always pointless (it makes no significant impact on the spread of viruses; there are a number of tech bloggers who have proven this). And Microsoft has acknowledged that it's pointless by removing the limit in Vista SP2 and Windows 7. Every time someone posts about the TCP half-open connection limit, I see the same idiots posting about how it doesn't affect torrents. But it does, and why the **** would people complain about how their torrents slowed to a crawl for a while with the limit in place, then be perfectly happy when the TCP limit patch from LVLLord came out?

[Malisk]

Yes, it does affect torrents somewhat, but not in the way so many believe.

[cropcircles]

Windows 7 Before/After

[Guest xiphi]

  cropcircles said:

Windows 7 Before/After

You are aware that there is no limit on 7, right?

[Prince Charming]

Windows, not just 7, did not ever need a TCP/IP patch. It's completely pointless.

[DOOOMKULTUS]

Change "net.max_halfopen" in utorrent then go check in Help>>Show Statistics.See for yourself :)

[+Nik Louch Subscriber²]

Wow, am surprised there are still fools running around under the belief that this does anything of any value for the average user...

[Prince Charming]

Yeah but this kind of crap never dies. It's like changing the number of processors during bootup and other such silly Windows myths. They let people think they're making a difference and the placebo effect does the rest.

[Subject Delta]

  illwillnos said:

um, the tcp/ip patch made a HUGE difference for torrents from xp sp2 until vista sp2

if you think it was a placebo you're talking out of your ass

but yes, the patch is no longer needed if you're using windows 7

I used that patch on XP all the time, and never noticed any real speed difference at all. I agree that it was a placebo

[Growled Member]

I say no as well. I've never been able to tell any difference with or without it.

[bruNo_]

Well, i had problems like that when i've installed Vista here for the first time (without SP). I wasn't able to update my Windows and access some sites, after a looooong search on google I've found there's some changes on Vista's MTU settings, I don't know about Windows 7, but hope it helps you. :)

http://www.annoyances.org/exec/forum/winvista/t1158155937

[Eric Veteran]

  illwillnos said:

um, the tcp/ip patch made a HUGE difference for torrents from xp sp2 until vista sp2

if you think it was a placebo you're talking out of your ass

but yes, the patch is no longer needed if you're using windows 7

It only seemed like it did. The only difference is the client can attempt to connect to more sources when the transfer starts. It doesn't affect the speed of the transfers a bit.

  xiphi said:

You are aware that there is no limit on 7, right?

I wouldn't be so sure about that...