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I was once a diehard PC fanatic but the writing is on the wall. It is far more cost effective for developers to keep the game as similar as possible across all platforms.

Depends on the dev, Rebellion (making the new AvP relaunch) said it would do P2P gaming on the PC then bailed on the idea after seeing the flak IW got. Just because one developer dropped dedicated servers due to time constraints it doesn't mean "the writings on the wall".

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Depends on the dev, Rebellion (making the new AvP relaunch) said it would do P2P gaming on the PC then bailed on the idea after seeing the flak IW got. Just because one developer dropped dedicated servers due to time constraints it doesn't mean "the writings on the wall".

Remember that one Dev has the all time best selling game ever under their belt (MW2). We are talking a major company, not some back yard start up. Wont take long for others to follow. There are no current (within the last year) cross platform games I can think of I would rather have on the PC, the PC advantage is quickly disappearing. The writing is on the wall but many refuse to read it.

Remember that one Dev has the all time best selling game ever under their belt (MW2). We are talking a major company, not some back yard start up.

I'm well aware. But when you have $3 billion in sales on one game you can do what you like. Other games may well need the support of all the platforms to break a decent profit. Other big publishers aren't showing signs of change. As they are aware there is money in dedicated servers provided you know how to exploit it (EA & BF2's 'official' servers).

The elitism of Pc gamers is what will kill the Pc gaming scene :no:

What are you talking about?

You are refusing to move with the times - most genres are adapting to the console market and, unless PC gamers learn to accept that, less and less of the big games will be developed for PC. Casual gaming is the new wave and it is pointless fighting it except for certain genres where Pc gaming reigns supreme.

You are refusing to move with the times - most genres are adapting to the console market and, unless PC gamers learn to accept that, less and less of the big games will be developed for PC. Casual gaming is the new wave and it is pointless fighting it except for certain genres where Pc gaming reigns supreme.

When FPS'ers stop getting developed for the PC I'll simply stop playing them. I like low pings and fast responsive games if I can't get that I'll go give Blizzard ?8.99 a month again. I'm not playing a FPS on sticks.

As long as Valve & EA are still happy to accommodate I'll keep upgrading my PC every 2 years.

They have completely FUBAR'ed this game on PC. Anyone who thinks this game is a good direction for PC gaming is an idiot or not a PC gamer. Those who support this game on PC are just asking for a day when all the benefits of PC's are taken away and once that happens, PC gaming becomes a thing of the past. So for all of you who understood that before you bought the game but you bought it anyway.. a big FU for jeopardizing my love of PC gaming.

Ah, how did you manage to get Delorean to work? :o Anyway - its not perfect in any way, but in practicular genre of big multiplayer shooters i havent seen single interesting game for last 1,5 years, and after putting in 574 hours in TF2 its getting a bit boring, so yeah, this will definitely do. Atleast till BC2 is released. It works good enough and it feels good enough. In this day and age thers tons of way more "consolized" pc titles then this.

Casual gaming is the new wave and it is pointless fighting it

Ah, right. Also lets start listening to Lady GaGa everyone. I mean, shes in now, right? Rock music is futile.

You are refusing to move with the times - most genres are adapting to the console market and, unless PC gamers learn to accept that, less and less of the big games will be developed for PC. Casual gaming is the new wave and it is pointless fighting it except for certain genres where Pc gaming reigns supreme.

Why should we move with the times. For at least 10 years the PC has had dedicated servers with low latency and admins on hand to kick any smacktards, getting with the times is a step backwards for PC gamers, why should my game experience be dumbed down for some idiot with a ?200 games console when my PC costs upwards of ?1000. If i pay that sort of money for my "console" i want a premium gaming experience, not a game created for consoles ported to the PC, if i wanted crap like that i would buy a console.

IW started life on the PC platform, the PC platform made them who they are and how they are crapping on us from a great height by dumbing down the experience because all the idiots who think console gaming is superior dont know any different from being shafted up the arse by games developers. Is it right that i should get "could not connect to host" 5 times in a row, then when i finally get into a lobby and load the game it either freezes on the loading screen(not an issue with my PC), or it picks a really laggy host who refuses to leave the game, or you get a cheater that you cannot kick or call an admin to kick, or you get host migration that 8/10 doesnt work for me. With dedicateds i can CHOOSE where i want to play, if it has a crap ping i can go to another server, if it has a cheat i can call an admin if there isnt one already present.

The only reason MW2 went P2P is all about control, if they gave us dedicateds they cant sell us DLC because we can put whatever maps we want on a dedicated server, with IWNET you cant so you either fork up for DLC or you dont get the maps.

So dont get all high and mighty with me, i am a PC gamer, i have been for 15 years, i shouldnt have to put up with the crap that console gamers do.

Been playing it on the PC for a while now. Did anyone else feel that the PC version plants that seed of doubt?

When I played on the 360 version, I never felt my opponent would cheat. Yet on the PC, I get that alot and have been on the receiving end of a few aimbots. It's such a shame as I love this game, but being on PC its alot easier to get into the guts of the game and change things to a players advantage. Anyone here been on the receiving end of a hack/cheat with MW2 PC?

If anyone is interested I am going to be playing this on Live a bit later tonight.

It is now 5:30 PM EST here in NJ, USA, and I will be going on with at least two other people at approximately 9 PM EST.

In roughly 3-4 hours from now give or take.

So if anyone is going to be around at that time and wants to join just send me a message on Live, respond in this thread, or feel free to join our party.

Last time we tried this didn't work so well, so expecting it might be more of the same tonight, but figured why not try once again.

I have most frequent members here on my friends list already, but if you are interested and we are not yet friends my GT is DirtyLawrence now. I just cleaned up my friends list a bit, deleted anyone who has not been active on Live in the past 6 months, so I have 3 slots open.

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