+Frank B. Subscriber² Posted October 6, 2009 Subscriber² Share Posted October 6, 2009 VMware announces VMware Fusion 3 details VMware has announced that VMware Fusion 3, the next major release of its virtualization solution for running Windows, Linux, and other operating systems on Intel-powered Macs, will ship on October 27. The new version ($80, with an upgrade available for $40) promises more than 50 new features, including changes designed to make it run well in Snow Leopard. The virtualization engine in Fusion 3 is completely 64-bit native, and will run in 64-bit mode under both Leopard and Snow Leopard for users of 64-bit-CPU-equipped Macs. Fusion 3 also offers greatly improved graphics support, including support for OpenGL 2.1 and DirectX 9.0c Shader Model 3. For the first time in Fusion, users will be able to use the ?Aero? visual effects in both Windows 7 and Windows Vista. Users of physical Windows machines looking to move to Fusion 3 on the Mac will find the task has been greatly simplified. A small program on the physical PC is first run, which generates a four-digit code. Users then move to the Mac and run the migration assistant, which will ask for the four-digit code. After providing the code, the Mac will find the physical Windows PC, and set up an identical virtual machine?all without any user intervention. Fusion Unity mode?whereby the Windows desktop is hidden and Windows applications and windows appear alongside those of OS X?has also been improved over its predecessor. Users will be able to switch between windows of a Windows application using Command-`, as they can in OS X. Windows application icons in the Dock will show a list of open windows when clicked, just like OS X applications in the Dock. You can even use Dock Expos? in Snow Leopard to show just the windows associated with a particular Windows application. Finally, a new Fusion menu bar icon provides access to the items in the Start Menu and on the Task Bar, along with some other often-used tasks. VMware has worked toward improved performance throughout the application, reducing memory usage where possible and adding small refinements. Dragging windows in Unity mode will be notably faster than before, and CPU usage is lower than it was previously. Users will be able to copy and paste not just text but graphics as well between Windows and OS X. Fusion 3 will support multiple cores in virtual machines, as opposed to the multiple CPUs supported in Fusion 2. Virtual machines will also launch more quickly than they did in Fusion 2. On the front end, the new virtual machine library overview window loads faster, and shows real time views of your virtual machines?even if its windows are hidden or it?s running in Unity mode. A new simplified interface makes it easier for users to create new virtual machines and handle other routine tasks. Finally, application updates are built right into the program, so users won?t need to visit the web site to download updates. For those who need technical support, Fusion 3 will offer 18 months of free e-mail tech support (up from 30 days for the current product), as well as the option of $29 per incident phone support?a service option that wasn?t available at all with Fusion 2. Users can pre-order the full $80 version of VMware Fusion 3 from VMware?s site, the Apple Online Store, and Amazon.com starting Tuesday. Upgrades from prior versions will be available for $40 on October 27 at vmware.com, as well as at all authorized resellers. News source: Macworld Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elliott Posted October 6, 2009 Share Posted October 6, 2009 Love the improvements to Unity, full 64-bit goodness, and improved 3D performance. (Y) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dewaaz Posted October 6, 2009 Share Posted October 6, 2009 How does Fusion 3 compare to Parallels? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elliott Posted October 6, 2009 Share Posted October 6, 2009 How does Fusion 3 compare to Parallels? I've always thought Fusion was a better product than Parallels even since Fusion was in beta status. In my (very unscientific) tests, it seems to perform better than Parallels. It's also more "Mac-like" and less invasive to your system (though Parallels 5 is changing up how it operates to function in a very similar way). Plus, it has a very large community and tons of "appliances" you can download to get ready-made VMs up and running in no time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
.Neo Posted October 6, 2009 Share Posted October 6, 2009 Parallels always felt bloated compared to VMware Fusion. Although I really like what they've done to v5's interface. Haven't seen screen shots of VMWare Fusion 3 yet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Frank B. Subscriber² Posted October 6, 2009 Author Subscriber² Share Posted October 6, 2009 Parallels always felt bloated compared to VMware Fusion. Although I really like what they've done to v5's interface. Haven't seen screen shots of VMWare Fusion 3 yet. Here you go: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NeoTrunks Posted October 6, 2009 Share Posted October 6, 2009 So, is the NDA lifted? I've been beta testing this for awhile. It's rock solid. Been using it to run my Windows 7 install on my production laptop for the last few months. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rudy Posted October 6, 2009 Share Posted October 6, 2009 Can you run glass with Unity (I'm guessing that's a no) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elliott Posted October 6, 2009 Share Posted October 6, 2009 Can you run glass with Unity (I'm guessing that's a no) Judging from this screenshot, I don't think so. You can see that there's no glass around the Outlook window. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
.Neo Posted October 6, 2009 Share Posted October 6, 2009 From what I know it switches back to basic in Unity mode. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zarpraz Posted October 6, 2009 Share Posted October 6, 2009 Great that it now support Aero, that was really the only thing I missed. About time they added check for updates, not sure why it hadn't been there all along. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Timan Veteran Posted October 6, 2009 Veteran Share Posted October 6, 2009 That one screenshot still shows Tiger shadows in leopard :( Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NeoTrunks Posted October 6, 2009 Share Posted October 6, 2009 You can use glass in Unity mode, but you wouldn't want to. It's still drawing what would be behind the glass on the Windows desktop, as that is all DWM is aware of. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NeoXY Posted October 6, 2009 Share Posted October 6, 2009 You can use glass in Unity mode, but you wouldn't want to. It's still drawing what would be behind the glass on the Windows desktop, as that is all DWM is aware of. :laugh: Interesting. But totally excited for Aero (Y) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
.Neo Posted October 6, 2009 Share Posted October 6, 2009 You can use glass in Unity mode, but you wouldn't want to. It's still drawing what would be behind the glass on the Windows desktop, as that is all DWM is aware of. Well you could disable transparency. :p Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quillz Posted October 7, 2009 Share Posted October 7, 2009 "Found" a copy and been running it since last night. I can't believe how stable a beta build has been... Win7, Linux, etc. all work great. For me, though, the single greatest improvement with VMware Fusion 3 is that when setting up a Linux virtual machine, it downloads and installs the VMware Tools BEFORE you actually install your Linux distro. That means as soon as it's installed and you can log in to your user account, the tools you need are already installed and running, which is a major time saver. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elliott Posted October 7, 2009 Share Posted October 7, 2009 Just started using it. Very snappy, and the new Unity is very impressive. :D I like it a lot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
powerade01 Posted October 7, 2009 Share Posted October 7, 2009 For the first time in Fusion, users will be able to use the ?Aero? visual effects in both Windows 7 and Windows Vista. Why are they focusing on OS X when their main product is Workstation? They should enable Aero on VMWare Workstation which have virtual machines that use a guest OS that supports Aero Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Frank B. Subscriber² Posted October 7, 2009 Author Subscriber² Share Posted October 7, 2009 Why are they focusing on OS X when their main product is Workstation?They should enable Aero on VMWare Workstation which have virtual machines that use a guest OS that supports Aero VMware Workstation 7.0 will be out soon as well, which is going to support Aero in Vista/7 guests. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elliott Posted October 7, 2009 Share Posted October 7, 2009 Why are they focusing on OS X when their main product is Workstation?They should enable Aero on VMWare Workstation which have virtual machines that use a guest OS that supports Aero What is with you and the hate for developers that like to give equal attention to both Windows and OS X? Fusion probably makes a lot of money for VMware considering there are a lot of switchers that, at first, think they still need to run some specific Windows apps. There are also people, like me, that use it to test things out in a Windows environment or in Windows only software (IE in particular). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
.Neo Posted October 8, 2009 Share Posted October 8, 2009 Why are they focusing on OS X when their main product is Workstation?They should enable Aero on VMWare Workstation which have virtual machines that use a guest OS that supports Aero Why shouldn't they if they're making good money by supporting the Mac platform? Like Elliott I fail to understand this attitude of yours. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NeoTrunks Posted October 8, 2009 Share Posted October 8, 2009 The latest Workstation betas also support Aero. I don't see what the problem is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dyn Posted October 9, 2009 Share Posted October 9, 2009 Can you run glass with Unity (I'm guessing that's a no) For obvious reasons: no. Unity is meant to integrate the software in a vm with the OS X environment you're in. That would mean those Unity apps will have to behave the same way as the other apps in OS X. Therefore fancy stuff that only works in Windows won't work. For me, though, the single greatest improvement with VMware Fusion 3 is that when setting up a Linux virtual machine, it downloads and installs the VMware Tools BEFORE you actually install your Linux distro. That means as soon as it's installed and you can log in to your user account, the tools you need are already installed and running, which is a major time saver. Fusion 2 introduced the Easy Install feature for Linux as well as Unity for Linux. In Fusion 1 those features were Windows only. The only new thing in Fusion 3 is downloading the VMware Tools if you don't have it on your machine. There is a plus side to this, they might sent out regular updates for their VMware Tools which would increase support for new operating systems (new Linux versions, new Linux distros, etc.). What is with you and the hate for developers that like to give equal attention to both Windows and OS X? Fusion probably makes a lot of money for VMware considering there are a lot of switchers that, at first, think they still need to run some specific Windows apps. There are also people, like me, that use it to test things out in a Windows environment or in Windows only software (IE in particular). VMware already had a product to do virtualisation on your computer with a lot of nifty stuff. The name of that piece of software is Workstation and it works on Windows and Linux. In that regard it's weird that they did not create Workstation for Mac which is exactly what Parallels did do with their workstation virtualisation software. However, OS X has a different interface and different guidelines when compared to Windows/Linux. In that regard it would be weird if they did port Workstation to the Mac. They could have ported it and made it fit in Apple's HIG so it looks and works like any other OS X app. They didn't, they created an entire new product from scratch with the problem that there are some differences between Fusion and the other products such as Workstation and Player (they did document how to overcome those differences). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
.Neo Posted October 9, 2009 Share Posted October 9, 2009 For obvious reasons: no. Unity is meant to integrate the software in a vm with the OS X environment you're in. That would mean those Unity apps will have to behave the same way as the other apps in OS X. Therefore fancy stuff that only works in Windows won't work. Applications running in Unity are still fully supported by Windows running in VMware Fusion. There are probably no real technical reasons why they can't use Aero. However, like explained before Aero Glass windows would just display the background you would see on your Windows desktop, so it would look weird in Unity. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
.Neo Posted October 27, 2009 Share Posted October 27, 2009 Got it up and running. Aero runs like crap so far, way too slow to be practical. I expected much better performance on a 2009 Mac Pro with an ATI Radeon HD 4870. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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