Transformers: Dark of the Moon (Transformers 3)

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So...can anyone succinctly and calmly explain who Alpha Trion is and why it's important? I just tried reading his wikipedia page to find out how he's important, but all I got out of it was that he is a "good guy".

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So...can anyone succinctly and calmly explain who Alpha Trion is and why it's important? I just tried reading his wikipedia page to find out how he's important, but all I got out of it was that he is a "good guy".

There's going to be a problem in using Alpha Trion with his old background, as he was one of the first generation of Transformers created by Vector Sigma (the computer created by the Quintessans to create the Transformers). In the film universe, the Transformers were created by the All Spark (taking the place of Vector Sigma as the creator of the Transformers).

The Transformers were originally created by the Quintessans to be a slave race. Alpha Trion was the first Transformer to rise up against and overthrow the Quintessans, thus freeing the Transformers from slavery.

So equivalents of original to film:

Vector Sigma = All Spark

Alpha Trion = One of the first Primes (who are all dead now, with the death of The Fallen in TF2)

Quintessans = ? (no equivalent yet)

Think that's a good rough background, but if anyone has some additions or amendments feel free (but remember sources, my post was done from memory so could be inaccurate in places).

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There's going to be a problem in using Alpha Trion with his old background, as he was one of the first generation of Transformers created by Vector Sigma (the computer created by the Quintessans to create the Transformers). In the film universe, the Transformers were created by the All Spark (taking the place of Vector Sigma as the creator of the Transformers).

The Transformers were originally created by the Quintessans to be a slave race. Alpha Trion was the first Transformer to rise up against and overthrow the Quintessans, thus freeing the Transformers from slavery.

So equivalents of original to film:

Vector Sigma = All Spark

Alpha Trion = One of the first Primes (who are all dead now, with the death of The Fallen in TF2)

Quintessans = ? (no equivalent yet)

Think that's a good rough background, but if anyone has some additions or amendments feel free (but remember sources, my post was done from memory so could be inaccurate in places).

Thanks, that did help a bit. When the wiki page started talking about Vector Sigma and Quintessans my mind just exploded. I remember watching the 80s cartoon when I was a kid, but I couldn't tell you anything about the lore or storylines. So, this was definitely helpful.

A few ancillary questions: Are Quintessans organic alien lifeforms? Are they "evil"? Do they still exist?

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Wondering why everyone thinks it's Unicorn :p Why would they make Unicorn that small?

He's way more similar to Alpha Trion so I'm placing my bets on him.

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This movie keeps looking better and better each time i see anything about it. I love that they are showing bits and pieces of the moon and stuff in the teaser It looks Really sharp :D

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