Transformers: Dark of the Moon (Transformers 3)

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Thanks, that did help a bit. When the wiki page started talking about Vector Sigma and Quintessans my mind just exploded. I remember watching the 80s cartoon when I was a kid, but I couldn't tell you anything about the lore or storylines. So, this was definitely helpful.

A few ancillary questions: Are Quintessans organic alien lifeforms? Are they "evil"? Do they still exist?

The Quintessans are organic. They originally tried to create organic/robotic hybrids before the Transformers (Trans-Organics I think they were called) but they proved to be too unstable so they were locked away inside Cybertron.

They are technically evil, in that they only want to do things for their own ends (creating the Transformers to do everything so they could live a life of luxury), but they aren't evil in the same vein as the Decepticons who want to destroy everything. The Quintessans are just as likely to ignore you if your existence has zero impact on them, but if your death served them then you'd be dead before you could blink. Whereas the Decepticons would kill you if the thought occurred to them when they saw you.

Are they still around? Interesting question. In the first Transformers movie (animated one where we saw Unicron and Galvatron for the first time) the Quintessans are the ones on the junkyard planet (five faced judge who sentences robots to death whether they are innocent or guilty, the tentacled creature that is the equivalent of the bailiff may have been one but he didn't have the five faced aspect). In the animated series that continues after the movie they blew up their home planet in an effort to destroy the Matrix of Leadership which Rodimus Prime had in his chest. Didn't work as Rodimus escaped, and then the Quintessans kind of scattered. That's where my knowledge of them fades a bit. They may have shown up later, but I can't remember.

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Alpha Trion = One of the first Primes (who are all dead now, with the death of The Fallen in TF2)

I thought that old plane robot guy wasn't a prime? But He was some sort of other robot and Optimus Prime was a prime and that is what He was suprised to see before he died? Did Optimus die in the second film? It's been ages since I saw it :p

that cannot be unicron, unicron is the size of an bloody planet, and he is in a ship so its not him

Ah ha, but you must remember that Scorponoc in the (animated) movie was a whole city, but in the (new) movie it was just another transformer, much smaller than the Autobots so it seemed?

The problem with having him as Alpha Trion has already been spoken about.

I'm not saying this is Unicron (I hope not!) or Alpha Trion (I hope not too!), there are complications with both characters so maybe it's neither?

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The Quintessans are organic. They originally tried to create organic/robotic hybrids before the Transformers (Trans-Organics I think they were called) but they proved to be too unstable so they were locked away inside Cybertron.

They are technically evil, in that they only want to do things for their own ends (creating the Transformers to do everything so they could live a life of luxury), but they aren't evil in the same vein as the Decepticons who want to destroy everything. The Quintessans are just as likely to ignore you if your existence has zero impact on them, but if your death served them then you'd be dead before you could blink. Whereas the Decepticons would kill you if the thought occurred to them when they saw you.

Are they still around? Interesting question. In the first Transformers movie (animated one where we saw Unicron and Galvatron for the first time) the Quintessans are the ones on the junkyard planet (five faced judge who sentences robots to death whether they are innocent or guilty, the tentacled creature that is the equivalent of the bailiff may have been one but he didn't have the five faced aspect). In the animated series that continues after the movie they blew up their home planet in an effort to destroy the Matrix of Leadership which Rodimus Prime had in his chest. Didn't work as Rodimus escaped, and then the Quintessans kind of scattered. That's where my knowledge of them fades a bit. They may have shown up later, but I can't remember.

Thanks for the clarification Aldur82. I never realized that the Transformers universe was so complicated until I visited this thread. :pinch:

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Could it be? Is this really what Megatron will look like in TRANSFORMERS: DARK OF THE MOON?

One of our handy dandy anonymous scoopers sent us what appears to be the new Megatron toy. Oh, you boys must be feeling a bit of excitement in those Decepticon underoos of yours. I guess that strange tanker truck turned out to be more than we had bargained for.

Below you can check out the toy before and after transformation. I've also provided a pic of the tanker truck on set so you can compare and contrast. Notice that it looks like his face has been all beat to **** as a result from the battle of the last film, REVENGE OF THE FALLEN.

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If this is Unicron, does that mean Megotron may die in the next film and we'll see the birth of Galvatron, Rodimus Prime and Ultra Magnus?

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Problem with that is that this will be the last film of the Transformers, any more will be a reboot or done by another director etc, won't happen. I think Megatron will get killed off this time round, for good, but the Alpha Trion idea is still the best idea at the moment.

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I remember reading about Michael Bay telling some interviewer he didn't want to use Unicron. He said it would make this even less realistic than they already are. Also, Unicron in the last movie wouldn't be such a good idea IMO. It's the last movie and Unicron shouldn't have such a small part in this trilogy if you ask me. And I'm sure Michael Bay wouldn't commit blasphemy by making Unicron a smaller Transformer who could stand as tall as all the other Transformers.

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But if you look carefully, he looks too much like Unicron:

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I must admit, I can see the resemblance, but I agree with Rappy, if Michael Bay wanted to put Unicron into a film, he would play a much bigger role than just for one film. Unicron is meant to eat planets, he's a little too small for that to be honest. :p For all we know, it could just be Michael Bay misleading people again like he did with Megatron in the second Transformers film. The colours look like Unicron, but it still could be Alpha Trion. Also, it'd make sense to use Alpha Trion as he is even older than Jet Fire/The Fallen and co.

Unicron would be awesome, but he would be over the top for just one film.

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it has to be unicron for a number of reasons

1. unicron is the transformer that turns megatron into galvatron, and rappy has evidence of galvatron action fiqures, and also at the end of the movie megatron is extremely crippled so perfect opportunity.

2. it seriously does look like unicron in the trailer

i think michael thought that having a transformer the size of a planet is just a bit too much of a challenge to deal with

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