Transformers: Dark of the Moon (Transformers 3)

[Kriz]

Having a transformer the size of a planet just wouldnt work, how would you incorporate the fight scenes? If he is in it, he will be a lot smaller.

[ToneKnee]

Having a transformer the size of a planet just wouldnt work, how would you incorporate the fight scenes? If he is in it, he will be a lot smaller.

Maybe he could of been a size of a Transformer but is able to 'attach' himself to a larger one to become the planet eater?

[Kriz]

I suppose at the moment the possibilities are endless, he could be able to make himself smaller/larger on command..

[Jamushroom Veteran]

I'm not sure if Michael Bay would want to make fans up set by doing that, LOL. He would really commit Blasphemy. Also, it would be ridiculous if they'd do that IMO. Plus, wouldn't the Autobots and Decepticons need LOADS of companions? Wouldn't it be odd seeing loads of Transformers on each side all of a sudden? There would be too much of a gap to fill inbetween 2 in 3 if that would be the case. And I'm not sure everyone would want to be forced into reading the comic books before watching the movie.

[Southern Patriot]

OK, I just went through the teaser trailer in 1080p frame by frame, and there are a LOT of different transformers shown, if you actually take the time to look (many more than people have been mentioning here). Here are my notes, along with the timeframes that they appear:

1:17-1:19 - Very clearly Optimus Prime's head sideways (note shape of face and antennae on head)

1:25-1:27 - Unidentified head (maybe Ironhide or Jazz) and either an arm or leg

1:30-1:32 - Two different Transformers - one head with shoulders and arms in lower right and one head in upper left of frame (both unknown)

1:33-1:35 - At least 2 Transformers - same head as last on left side of frame, one head and torso in top center frame, possibly one more top right frame (lying down)

1:38-1:39 - Head in center left of frame and hand hanging down above the head of the lefthand astronaut

1:55-1:59 - large head in upper right of frame then panning down into hole to show full body of yellow Transformer

2:01-end - zoom in on yellow Transformer's face

It seems to me that the Autobot's ship crashed on the dark side of the Moon on their way to Earth (following the trail of Megatron, who was already under the Antartic ice cap). In 1969, the earlier Apollo missions noticed the wreckage on the Moon, and then investigated the wreckage in person on the Apollo 11 mission (which is shown in the trailer). The actions of the astronauts somehow woke the ship up (maybe just waking up the yellow Transformer who set to work repairing the rest). They eventually made it to Earth in the events of the first movie.

Also, note that in the final two clips, we have NO sense of scale to go by, so the yellow guy could very well be MUCH larger than people are imagining.

[SuperJediMedia]

^ WOAH!!!

[Jamushroom Veteran]

The first face you're talking about could also be Ultra Magnus I assume. We can all guess what is what about what we're seeing in the trailer. But it's all kinda pointless really :p

[Southern Patriot]

The first face you're talking about could also be Ultra Magnus I assume.

It is possible, but the face is far more similar to Optimus Prime than Ultra Magnus. Remember, this scene takes place in 1969, long before the events of the first movie, so Optimus Prime has not yet arrived on Earth.

It should also be noted that the yellow guy appears to be seated in what looks like a pilot's chair, lowered into a circular depression (maybe a cockpit).

Here are some screenshots from the scenes I described above, with each of the heads or bodies outlined to be easier to pick out:

[giantpotato]

It is possible, but the face is far more similar to Optimus Prime than Ultra Magnus. Remember, this scene takes place in 1969, long before the events of the first movie, so Optimus Prime has not yet arrived on Earth.

Here are some screenshots from the scenes I described above, with each of the heads or bodies outlined to be easier to pick out:

The only problem with the Optimus Prime argument is Optimus' face doesn't look like that until he scans a truck. When he first arrives on earth he doesn't have antennae and his face looks diferent.

[Southern Patriot]

The only problem with the Optimus Prime argument is Optimus' face doesn't look like that until he scans a truck. When he first arrives on earth he doesn't have antennae and his face looks diferent.

Well, that could simply be a continuity error (God knows movies are full of them), but we never really do get a clear look at what his face looked like before scanning the truck, as far as I remember (and no, the protoform toy doesn't count, since it doesn't look anything like Optimus Prime does in the movie, before or after scanning the truck).

[Jamushroom Veteran]

"Optimus Prime than Ultra Magnus" so you have seen the Ultra Magnus from this storyline? If you've read some of the comics, you should know that Ultra Mangus has had Optimus Prime's look in some. Calling it a continuity error to make it look like it's Optimus Prime is somewhat odd while not having even seen the movie :s

Here's Optimus Prime in protoform before he scanned the truck:

All we're doing is just guessing anyways. It might as well be Ultra Magnus as it could make sense that he was trying to stop Megatron on Earth. Maybe him and fellow Autobots knew about Megatron's whereabouts and wanted to stop him from getting the AllSpark.

[Southern Patriot]

All we're doing is just guessing anyways.

Very true. However, where are YOU getting the idea that Ultra Magnus is even going to be in this film? Nothing I've read outside of this thread has even hinted at him being in it. And thanks for that image of protoform Optimus Prime. I had tried locating one, but all I could find was images of the toy. It still isn't that definitive though, since we are only seeing the left side of his face, and in the trailer it does appear that the first Transformer doesn't have the antenna on that side when he is uncovered.

[Jamushroom Veteran]

One should be able to see a tip of the right antenna in the image with Protoform Optimus Prime tbh :p No one knows which Transformers are going to be in it. My guess about Ultra Magnus is the same as the guesses about Alpha Trion and Unicron. Some new ones are a fact, some aren't. It's why I said that all we can and are doing is guess.

I could ask the same question like you did; where's everyone getting the idea that Unicron is even going to be in this movie?. Where's everyone getting the idea that Alpha Trion is even going to be in this movie?

[TonyLock]

1:17-1:19 - Very clearly Optimus Prime's head sideways (note shape of face and antennae on head)

I'm not sure that's Optimus. Take a look:

You're right about not having anything to campaire the sense of scale to; the last robot could be much bigger in fact. Much, much bigger!

What if the whole Moon is Unicron, laying there dormant for millions of years, collecting space dust?

[TonyLock]

Talking about Bay not wanting to upset fans; where the hell was the original theme song? Hell, I would have settled for the "You've got the Touch" song. And please don't mention "Black Lab" -that was just blaspheme.

[Jamushroom Veteran]

^Kinda funny how that's being discussed with each of Bay's Transformer movie :rofl:

[ToneKnee]

I know this may sound stupid, but if it is Unicron, he doesn't look "evil", this guy looks like a good guy since he doesn't really have the visual characteristics to be someone bad i.e. Megatron. Hollywood aren't afraid to make bad guys look bad and good guys look good.

[Southern Patriot]

I'm not sure that's Optimus. Take a look:

Take a look at what? That is the same as the image I posted above (although I cropped and rotated it). I compared it to every image I could find of Optimus Prime from the other movies (other than the protoform image, as we discussed above), and the general shape and features are a dead match for him, other than missing the antenna on the left side of his head.

One should be able to see a tip of the right antenna in the image with Protoform Optimus Prime tbh :p

Not necessarily, due to the camera angle in that shot. And, although I certainly don't consider it definitive, the protoform Optimus Prime toy DOES have antennas, although they are shorter than those of the regular movie version.

[giantpotato]

Well, that could simply be a continuity error (God knows movies are full of them), but we never really do get a clear look at what his face looked like before scanning the truck, as far as I remember (and no, the protoform toy doesn't count, since it doesn't look anything like Optimus Prime does in the movie, before or after scanning the truck).

Take a look at what? That is the same as the image I posted above (although I cropped and rotated it). I compared it to every image I could find of Optimus Prime from the other movies (other than the protoform image, as we discussed above), and the general shape and features are a dead match for him, other than missing the antenna on the left side of his head.

Not necessarily, due to the camera angle in that shot. And, although I certainly don't consider it definitive, the protoform Optimus Prime toy DOES have antennas, although they are shorter than those of the regular movie version.

lol. So if the toy doesn't support your theory it doesn't count, but if it does support you, it suddenly does count :p

[Yusuf M. Veteran]

Great analysis, roadwarrior. My guess is that the transformer shown in the first image (where a head is shown sideways) is Ultra Magnus. I've looked around the web and did a rough comparison of that head, Ultra Magnus, and Optimus Prime (as he was protrayed in the two Transformers movies). With Optimus Prime, the antennae on the side of his head are slightly angled inward. Ultra Magnus has antennae as well; however, they are straight.

[team_NOOB]

The end of this thread just gee's me up even more about seeing this movie..

[TonyLock]

Nah, I'm not seeing it...

So, who's head is this? It could be Shockwave.

[Yusuf M. Veteran]

That looks like Soundwave to me. See here: http://transformers.wikia.com/wiki/Soundwave_(Movie)

[ToneKnee]

It could of been protoform Transformers, because think of it, how fast did Optimus etc get to Earth when Bumblebee signalled them?

[giantpotato]

All this speculating and I'm sure it's just going to be some throw-away no-name transformer like the ones that showed up at the end of the last film :laugh: