Transformers: Dark of the Moon (Transformers 3)

[Southern Patriot]

lol. So if the toy doesn't support your theory it doesn't count, but if it does support you, it suddenly does count :p

Notice in the part that you didn't put in bold I said that I don't consider it definitive.

[Rappy Veteran]

I love how geeky this thread has become :wub:

[Southern Patriot]

Nah, I'm not seeing it...

So, who's head is this? It could be Shockwave.

The one on the left is clearly Soundwave, as he appeared in ROTF, but the one on the right is most likely Shockwave, since he has most often been shown with one central, cyclops-like, eye.

[Southern Patriot]

It could of been protoform Transformers, because think of it, how fast did Optimus etc get to Earth when Bumblebee signalled them?

They got there really damned fast, which is why my theory is that the crashed ship on the moon was where the other Autobots (Optimus Prime, Ratchet, Ironhide, and Jazz) were hiding out until their recon (Bumblebee) signaled that he had found evidence of the Allspark.

[Jamushroom Veteran]

Take a look at what? That is the same as the image I posted above (although I cropped and rotated it). I compared it to every image I could find of Optimus Prime from the other movies (other than the protoform image, as we discussed above), and the general shape and features are a dead match for him, other than missing the antenna on the left side of his head.

Not necessarily, due to the camera angle in that shot. And, although I certainly don't consider it definitive, the protoform Optimus Prime toy DOES have antennas, although they are shorter than those of the regular movie version.

I meant that if you're theory was right, that the one with the antenna on the right would Optimus Prime. If that where to be true, then the tip of that antenna would've been seen in the protoform image that I posted.

@Anaron: I really hope it's Ultra Magnus. If it is, I'm hoping he's going to be awakened in this movie :D

[Southern Patriot]

If that where to be true, then the tip of that antenna would've been seen in the protoform image that I posted.

Except that when he was on the ship, it is unlikely that he would have been in protoform mode. Several sources that I've read state that the protoform mode (in the context of the movies) is only used when travelling directly in space such as entry into the Earth's atmosphere, as seen in the first movie. The protoforms lack a lot of their distinguishing characteristics, so even their heads would probably lack a lot of the details that they normally have. Notice in the other shots from the trailer, the other Transformers that you see have a lot of detail in their heads, so they also are probably not in protoform mode.

http://www.unicron.us/tf2007/toypix/protoformoptimusprime.htm

Below is listed an excerpt from the Transformers, movie Guide Book, written by Simon Furman. Therein, Mr. Furman provides this explanation of Protoforms:

"Trans-Scanning, Local Camouflage: Chameleons by nature, Transofmers are constantly adapting their forms either to blend in on other worlds or to traverse the vast distance between them. In preparation for deep space travel, a Transformer will shed its current exo-structure, returning to its most basic form, a protoform, before transforming into a protective transition mode. Transformers can trans-scan a vehicle or life form and reformat their own protoform, adopting a new exo structure.

Regarding the alternate travel mode, space dust and ice coat the transition mode in motion, creating the illusion of a comet or meteor.

[Razorwing]

@Anaron: I really hope it's Ultra Magnus. If it is, I'm hoping he's going to be awakened in this movie :D

I hope it's the White version of Optimus then. :D

[Southern Patriot]

I hope it's the White version of Optimus then. :D

The white semi in the movie has been all but confirmed to be Megatron. If Ultra Magnus was going to be in this movie, you would think that there would be SOME evidence of him in all of the pictures of the filming that have been posted. It wouldn't make sense for him to be anything other than a large white truck, similar to Optimus Prime. The lack of any such truck (other than the one that is most likely Megatron) present during the filming is pretty damning evidence against him having a part in the movie.

[TonyLock]

Any info about Galvatron and Blur appearing in this movie?

A photo of Blur:

[Southern Patriot]

Any info about Galvatron and Blur appearing in this movie?

A photo of Blur:

Isn't that simply one of the NASCAR Transformers? The shape is similar, but the colors don't seem to match the ones that are known to be in the movie. And that is a pretty blurry picture LOL. It almost looks like a toy car sitting on a tile floor to me.

[TonyLock]

Yeah, "Blur" LOL

[Jamushroom Veteran]

The white semi in the movie has been all but confirmed to be Megatron. If Ultra Magnus was going to be in this movie, you would think that there would be SOME evidence of him in all of the pictures of the filming that have been posted. It wouldn't make sense for him to be anything other than a large white truck, similar to Optimus Prime. The lack of any such truck (other than the one that is most likely Megatron) present during the filming is pretty damning evidence against him having a part in the movie.

I wouldn't be too sure about having seen all the Transformers. There's not a single trace of Alpha Trion nor Unicron for that matter either besides the trailer.

@Razorwing: IF Ultra Magnus really is going to be in this movie, I'm hoping for a somewhat original design for him. As in; not a direct copy of Optimus Prime.

[Razorwing]

I wouldn't be too sure about having seen all the Transformers. There's not a single trace of Alpha Trion nor Unicron for that matter either besides the trailer.

@Razorwing: IF Ultra Magnus really is going to be in this movie, I'm hoping for a somewhat original design for him. As in; not a direct copy of Optimus Prime.

Really? I would like for him to be like the Cartoon. So his car mode will be the same as Optimus (but with a blue and white paint) and his robot mode should be original. And somewhere in the film he has to say "open damnit". :laugh:

[Jamushroom Veteran]

^It would be awesome if it where to be like the cartoon. And I bet you'd only hear geeks laugh in theaters ones he'll say that :p At least I will LOL. Would be epic if he'd say that :p

[Southern Patriot]

I wouldn't be too sure about having seen all the Transformers. There's not a single trace of Alpha Trion nor Unicron for that matter either besides the trailer.

Yes, but unless they are intending to have him totally CGI, unlike all of the other Autobots, there would have been SOME shots of his vehicle mode by now, don't you think? They were able to do that with Megatron on the previous movies because for the most part, he was all CGI, but I really can't see them doing that with Ultra Magnus (hell, they didn't even do it with Megatron for this one!).

[TonyLock]

What other bots would you all like to see in this movie?

[Southern Patriot]

What other bots would you all like to see in this movie?

Do the smoldering remains of Skids and Mudflap count? They were ALMOST as annoying as Jar Jar Binks. I say "almost" because they did at least serve some useful purpose. Other than that, I'd love to see Hound, perhaps done as either a new Jeep Grand Cherokee or an acutal military Humvee (since he was typically a military Jeep in most previous versions of his character). He is one of my son's favorite Transformer toys (along with nearly every version of Bumblebee made in the last few years!).

[SidVicious]

Thundercracker and Skywarp together with Starscream would be nice.

[Kriz]

Do the smoldering remains of Skids and Mudflap count? They were ALMOST as annoying as Jar Jar Binks. I say "almost" because they did at least serve some useful purpose. Other than that, I'd love to see Hound, perhaps done as either a new Jeep Grand Cherokee or an acutal military Humvee (since he was typically a military Jeep in most previous versions of his character). He is one of my son's favorite Transformer toys (along with nearly every version of Bumblebee made in the last few years!).

Are you a transformer? Id like to see you in the film, you seem to know whats going on more than Shia LaBeouf :p

[Rappy Veteran]

Are you a transformer? Id like to see you in the film, you seem to know whats going on more than Shia LaBeouf :p

:rofl:

[Southern Patriot]

Are you a transformer?

No, just someone who has been a fan since they first came out in the US in the early 80's (FYI, I'm 39 right now).

Thundercracker and Skywarp together with Starscream would be nice.

Those would be cool too, and the toys have already been made (although they are outrageously expensive for a simple repaint, IMHO).

[SidVicious]

Those would be cool too, and the toys have already been made (although they are outrageously expensive for a simple repaint, IMHO).

In Transformers Armada, it was nice to see Starscream remembering Thundercracker. :)

But the original Starscream in the 80's with Chris Latta's voice will always be the best. :cool:

[Jamushroom Veteran]

Yes, but unless they are intending to have him totally CGI, unlike all of the other Autobots, there would have been SOME shots of his vehicle mode by now, don't you think? They were able to do that with Megatron on the previous movies because for the most part, he was all CGI, but I really can't see them doing that with Ultra Magnus (hell, they didn't even do it with Megatron for this one!).

We haven't seen Shockwave either actually. Also, there's the head on a stick with a transformer who looked to have a weird Einstein look. No one knows which Transformer that's going to be. Who knows what's going to happen. You can't really rule out any idea at this point.

[ToneKnee]

We haven't seen Shockwave either actually. Also, there's the head on a stick with a transformer who looked to have a weird Einstein look. No one knows which Transformer that's going to be. Who knows what's going to happen. You can't really rule out any idea at this point.

Let's all be honest, we haven't even see all the production photos. Only mostly what was shot in those photos back in October/January. Also, Shockwave was in the original film -- as a satelitte so we know he'll return for that, it's just his alterform that's the problem.

[Southern Patriot]

Also, there's the head on a stick with a transformer who looked to have a weird Einstein look. No one knows which Transformer that's going to be.

Well, according to a report linked to the Wikipedia article on the movie, it is the blue Mercedes, and it is an Autobot (but no name yet).

Let's all be honest, we haven't even see all the production photos. Only mostly what was shot in those photos back in October/January.

There are photos and video all over the internet taken by people who are around during the filming in the city streets. Hell, there are even several different videos of Bumblebee's wreck! We aren't talking about production photos, we are talking about pictures taken by average people who just happen to live in the cities where they are filming. It would be rather hard to hide a large white truck (if Ultra Magnus is indeed in this, and not totally CGI).

Also, Shockwave was in the original film -- as a satelitte so we know he'll return for that, it's just his alterform that's the problem.

You are confusing Shockwave with Soundwave (and he was in the second film, not the first).