Video shot with Canon's new EOS 1D MK IV


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Guess what. They could have shot the same with D3s. Not in 1080p tho, but that aside.

That's a bit of a silly thing to say though, as 1080p is one of the fairly large distinguishing factors of the 1DMKIV to the D3s. It's like saying...they could have shot it on a Flip or something. Not in 1080p, with gorgeous use of depth of field or excellent low-noise.

1080p is the only distinguishing factor. Everything else is better on D3s, including noise and probably DOF since Mark IV is not full frame. What does make this video so special, which has NOTHING to do with what camera is used, is how many people and lots of gear were involved and used. Basically the usual movie production stuff from a script to actors to rails which the camera man rides on to a guy who does the focus shifting. I can also bet that more than 1 camera was used.

1080p is the only distinguishing factor. Everything else is better on D3s, including noise and probably DOF since Mark IV is not full frame. What does make this video so special, which has NOTHING to do with what camera is used, is how many people and lots of gear were involved and used. Basically the usual movie production stuff from a script to actors to rails which the camera man rides on to a guy who does the focus shifting. I can also bet that more than 1 camera was used.

good conclusion, basically in the hands of a capable person, the difference is minimal!

1080p is the only distinguishing factor. Everything else is better on D3s, including noise and probably DOF since Mark IV is not full frame. What does make this video so special, which has NOTHING to do with what camera is used, is how many people and lots of gear were involved and used. Basically the usual movie production stuff from a script to actors to rails which the camera man rides on to a guy who does the focus shifting. I can also bet that more than 1 camera was used.

The point was that this was done with a prosumer digital camera. Which costs 1/10th the price of a dedicated movie camera and produces better results thanks to the use of 35mm lenses. It pretty much has blown open the indie market and a good thing too, it's gorgeous.

That's insane quality...

But no way I'm spending that much for a DSLR...

Are there any normal camcorders that are considerably cheaper, yet can hold their own against this thing?

Camcorders, no. The EOS 5D MKII, the EOS 7D and the EOS 500D all have movie recording capability though, and are cheaper.

The point was that this was done with a prosumer digital camera. Which costs 1/10th the price of a dedicated movie camera and produces better results thanks to the use of 35mm lenses. It pretty much has blown open the indie market and a good thing too, it's gorgeous.

I can back this up. My friend works for a production company and they've ordered a few Canon 7D's to use for shoots.

The point was that this was done with a prosumer digital camera. Which costs 1/10th the price of a dedicated movie camera and produces better results thanks to the use of 35mm lenses. It pretty much has blown open the indie market and a good thing too, it's gorgeous.

I do admit it's good for beginners or pro photog's who want to do some video stuff on a side. But established companies don't all of a sudden switch to DSLR because of a cool looking video. Such companies have already invested in gear from companies like Arri, who provide far much better equipment in various formats including 35mm and have, sadly enough, much better quality lenses than both Canon and Nikon.

The point was that this was done with a prosumer digital camera. Which costs 1/10th the price of a dedicated movie camera and produces better results thanks to the use of 35mm lenses. It pretty much has blown open the indie market and a good thing too, it's gorgeous.

I'm sorry, but you can't call the $5000 1D MKIV a "proSUMER" camera.

I do admit it's good for beginners or pro photog's who want to do some video stuff on a side. But established companies don't all of a sudden switch to DSLR because of a cool looking video. Such companies have already invested in gear from companies like Arri, who provide far much better equipment in various formats including 35mm and have, sadly enough, much better quality lenses than both Canon and Nikon.

Trust me, many of them are buying these cameras for filming and taking stills on sets, why? because it's incredible portable. Of course it doesn't replace them but it stills plays a big part in a production.

I do admit it's good for beginners or pro photog's who want to do some video stuff on a side. But established companies don't all of a sudden switch to DSLR because of a cool looking video. Such companies have already invested in gear from companies like Arri, who provide far much better equipment in various formats including 35mm and have, sadly enough, much better quality lenses than both Canon and Nikon.

Yes, yes they will. They'll invest, they won't switch, I know that, you know that. Your statement makes no sense since I specifically said and targeted the independant and small production houses.

I'm sorry, but you can't call the $5000 1D MKIV a "proSUMER" camera.

Yes, yes I can.

With $30k digital medium-formats, and stuff like Leica's S2, and equally, the inveitable 's', full frame 1Ds MKIV version which will be nearer $9k, you can call the 1D MKIV a prosumer camera I suppose. Prosumer is a pricing category/marketing category term though, 'professional' can apply to a kodak disposable if in the hands of an...industry professional.

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