joemailey Posted November 6, 2009 Share Posted November 6, 2009 People seem to be missing the point. When they say apple will lose customers. What I have got from this thread is a lot of the people aren't even using the latest iPhone or iPod touch. Apple doesn't gain any money from you after you buy the phone or iPod. So what does Apple actually have to lose by stopping the jailbreak? They have nothing what so ever to lose. As people with jail broken phones do not buy anything from the app store hardly. As they can all get it free. They aren't buying the latest hardware(3GS). So Apple will lose nothing as the jail breakers will have already paid apple for the phone/ipod. Different if apple was the service provider and they where getting X amount of money every month from you. I use to jail break my phone so I could do the following: Send MMS Forward SMS So I could use my Vodafone sim in it. That was it. I've also had the iPhone 2G, 3G, I now use the 3GS. I stopped using the jail break along time ago as I joined O2. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/842846-apple-officially-going-to-war-against-jailbreaking/page/3/#findComment-591812928 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shadrack Posted November 6, 2009 Share Posted November 6, 2009 You're not tech savvy enough?!? Download blackrain. Connect phone via USB. Hit start. 5 mins later, you're jailbroken and ready to go. A monkey could do it. Lol. I was trying to be funny but it backfired :p. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/842846-apple-officially-going-to-war-against-jailbreaking/page/3/#findComment-591813188 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nayos Posted November 6, 2009 Share Posted November 6, 2009 People seem to be missing the point. When they say apple will lose customers.What I have got from this thread is a lot of the people aren't even using the latest iPhone or iPod touch. Apple doesn't gain any money from you after you buy the phone or iPod. So what does Apple actually have to lose by stopping the jailbreak? They have nothing what so ever to lose. As people with jail broken phones do not buy anything from the app store hardly. As they can all get it free. They aren't buying the latest hardware(3GS). So Apple will lose nothing as the jail breakers will have already paid apple for the phone/ipod. Different if apple was the service provider and they where getting X amount of money every month from you. I use to jail break my phone so I could do the following: Send MMS Forward SMS So I could use my Vodafone sim in it. That was it. I've also had the iPhone 2G, 3G, I now use the 3GS. I stopped using the jail break along time ago as I joined O2. If you think that you are severely misinformed Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/842846-apple-officially-going-to-war-against-jailbreaking/page/3/#findComment-591813484 Share on other sites More sharing options...
McCordRm Posted November 7, 2009 Share Posted November 7, 2009 To me, this seems stupid. How much money are they losing from people hacking their device? If I could sell an over-priced device in the first place I'd be happy. But then someone comes along and develops a reason (more motivation) for people to buy it, and I didn't have to pay them? WOW, I'm all for it. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/842846-apple-officially-going-to-war-against-jailbreaking/page/3/#findComment-591815850 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Argi Posted November 7, 2009 Share Posted November 7, 2009 I jailbroke to change the theme, I buy good apps from the Store (/wave Tweetie) and have never pirated anything. Thanks Apple. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/842846-apple-officially-going-to-war-against-jailbreaking/page/3/#findComment-591815858 Share on other sites More sharing options...
scratch42069 Posted November 7, 2009 Share Posted November 7, 2009 I don't pirate with my jailbroken ipod but I do install third-party apps like winterboard. If Apple officially supported theming and loosened up their iron grip on the devices just a little bit, then I'd have no reason to jailbreak. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/842846-apple-officially-going-to-war-against-jailbreaking/page/3/#findComment-591816360 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Echilon Posted November 7, 2009 Share Posted November 7, 2009 Why why why? Jailbreaking was the biggest draw. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/842846-apple-officially-going-to-war-against-jailbreaking/page/3/#findComment-591816894 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Subject Delta Posted November 7, 2009 Share Posted November 7, 2009 I think the 'Root' and 'alpine' is set by installing openssh not by apple.Besides, Jailbreaking is a serious business, If apple controlled it and changed the password it would be cracked within 5 mins again. Nope it isn't alpine is actually the device's root password, SSH is just the mechanism by which the phone is opened up to intruders. What I have got from this thread is a lot of the people aren't even using the latest iPhone or iPod touch.Apple doesn't gain any money from you after you buy the phone or iPod. So what does Apple actually have to lose by stopping the jailbreak? They have nothing what so ever to lose. As people with jail broken phones do not buy anything from the app store hardly. As they can all get it free. I have my iTouch jailbroken and I still buy apps from the app store occasionally, and the occasional track from iTunes, but even when jailbroken customisation on Android is so much easier, which really just strengthens my resolve never to buy an iPhone. I know Apple like to keep an iron gripped stranglehold on their products, but they need to open their eyes and realise that if they made their products more customisable, most people would probably not even bother jailbreaking. The iPhone's default look of icons on a black background is majourly boring Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/842846-apple-officially-going-to-war-against-jailbreaking/page/3/#findComment-591817184 Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrChainsaw Posted November 7, 2009 Share Posted November 7, 2009 Why why why? Jailbreaking was the biggest draw. Don't worry, this will not get far. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/842846-apple-officially-going-to-war-against-jailbreaking/page/3/#findComment-591817582 Share on other sites More sharing options...
NY1 Posted November 7, 2009 Share Posted November 7, 2009 This is like MS trying to stop people from pirating windows. We know how successful that has been. Whatever is made can be unmade. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/842846-apple-officially-going-to-war-against-jailbreaking/page/3/#findComment-591817596 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ji@nBing Posted November 9, 2009 Author Share Posted November 9, 2009 The iPhone's default look of icons on a black background is majourly boring Not only that, but the little square icons too. Even 99% of custom themes seem to just stick to the little square icons, and I just don't get it. You can use normal icons too if you wish!! Almost all of the square icon themes look basically identical to me. There are a few exceptions, but really there isn't much creativity or difference in most of them. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/842846-apple-officially-going-to-war-against-jailbreaking/page/3/#findComment-591824466 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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