Games 'permit' virtual war crimes

[gazebee_]

I think there needs to be a balance between what is permissible in reality and in a video game. Now if a game were to feature something as horrific and unacceptable as rape, then everybody would be all over it. However, when it comes to torture, death, and killing in the context of a "war" simulation, then everything seems permissible?

It would be ridiculous to have everything played up to the "rules" of reality, but I think there needs to be a line drawn at one point.

[Darksoft]

Just for the sake of argument, let's say a 9 year old boy got GTA and did those things like dousing priests with gasoline. And let's say the boy had no one to tell him this game was just a game and he wasn't suppose to do those things in real life. After a while wouldn't the limits blur a bit for him and might he think that there wasn't anything wrong with doing those things in real life?

A 9 year old shouldn't be playing a game rated for people over 18. This is the whole issue with video games most of the time. Irresponsible and s***ty parents blaming others: tv, games, celebrities, athletes or what have you for their lack of parenting skills.

[carmatic]

Which games depicted war crimes? Maybe that sensationalist airport scene from MW2, but I can't think of anything else? Usually games don't even have any civilians in the combat zone at all, just empty houses you can run around shooting your friends in.

i think that this thread wouldnt exist if it werent for that level...

[jbrunt1990]

^Am I the only one who enjoyed that level? It was stress relief! But saying that, it doesn't mean that next time I go to work at the airport I am going to bring in a AK47 and kill a few people. It's not the game that is the issue here, its the level of parenting which the kids of today are not getting. Back in my day, a whole 19 years ago, I was told what was right and what was wrong, these days it seems that parents just let kids get on with it. It's ridiculous, there are a load of do gooders which wont let parents control there kids and laws which don't have any justice. If you want to lower crime, publicly execute a few of these ******* carrying weapons on the streets and the level of crime will soon decrease.

But back to the topic in hand, its a load of ******** saying that you can't have games which permit anything illegal in the real world, the whole point we play these games is so that we can do something we can't do in the real world. The games have ratings to prevent children playing them, its not the game manufacturers fault if some poor parenting allows a children to get the game.

[Nayos]

^Am I the only one who enjoyed that level? It was stress relief! But saying that, it doesn't mean that next time I go to work at the airport I am going to bring in a AK47 and kill a few people. It's not the game that is the issue here, its the level of parenting which the kids of today are not getting. Back in my day, a whole 19 years ago, I was told what was right and what was wrong, these days it seems that parents just let kids get on with it. It's ridiculous, there are a load of do gooders which wont let parents control there kids and laws which don't have any justice. If you want to lower crime, publicly execute a few of these ******* carrying weapons on the streets and the level of crime will soon decrease.

But back to the topic in hand, its a load of ******** saying that you can't have games which permit anything illegal in the real world, the whole point we play these games is so that we can do something we can't do in the real world. The games have ratings to prevent children playing them, its not the game manufacturers fault if some poor parenting allows a children to get the game.

Exactly. I too enjoyed the level. I wasn't bothered by it all. As far as I was concerned I was shooting at targets on a screen that don't actually exist apart from in the bits of data held in my computer's RAM.

I like to think that I'm a good person. Like yourself, my parents also taught me right from wrong. And I shall teach my own children one day. But this is a game. The whole point of games is to be able to do things you can't or won't do in real life. I will not shoot civilians in real life. But I will shoot targets on a screen when I'm not actually hurting anyone.

In the game, you haven't hurt anyone.

You haven't committed any crimes.

You haven't left thousands of families and friends without their loved ones.

It's not real.

[McCordRm]

I'm all about the "other media" arguement.

I went to see the new Rambo movie. Know what I DIDN'T see? A sanctimonious group outside the theatre throwing

stones at all the "murders" coming out of the movie obviously on their way to commit the crimes they just experienced in

the flick.

I read "Of Mice and Men" in high school... no-one accused me of wanting to go out and shoot retards in the back of the head.

I'm looking forward to the Star Trek or The Island days when we can actively take out our aggressions virtually without

causing physical harm. Well, at least somewhat. One thing I have to say about physical sports (especially as a guy) is

that I certainly didn't grow up to be a sissy after playing games like dodgeball, tackle football and rugby... and I'm pretty

sure I've stayed in great health because of it, too.

[buckboii]

reason why their are movies and games.

Movies are far worse influence I think. Games are just animations. Movies actually have real actors and whatnot. Only reason why this is a such a big deal is because kids now dont have a reality and follow their game reality because they are retarded and their parent's dont teach them reality.

[iamwhoiam]

Human rights groups played various games to see if any broke humanitarian laws that govern what is a war crime.

How can there be humanitarian laws for pixels?

The study condemned the games for violating laws by letting players kill civilians, torture captives and wantonly destroy homes and buildings.

What laws are being violated by eradicating pixels?

[carmatic]

2 words... blood patch

more specifically, the need for a patch to be applied by the end user to enable blood and gore in the game...

also, replacing people with zombies... or aliens... or robots...