F1 World Championship 2010 Thread

[san.W10]

Webber on pole in disrupted qualifying

http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/82643

[simonlang]

i think this was the best qualifying this year. unbelievable how mclaren and ferrari managed to screw this one up!

great result for redbull and mercedes too, im only a little bit disappointed that button had to spin out exactly that moment when felipe massa was on his way to get p12 or p13. after that, the rain was too heavy.

anyway having the 2 topteams starting from behind will lead to an interesting race hopefully. :D

[simonlang]

man, ferrari really really should replace alonso with some better driver asap and make felipe massa the teamleader.

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Alonso "I insisted with the team that we should wait, I take 70% of the blame. But for tomorrow I remain optimistic"

Massa: "Had I gone out 30 second earlier I would have done it. Who decided? It was a collective choice: but the car is good in any condition and I'm confident".

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[Crazysah]

Sutil to get a podium tomorrow? Who's with me on this one?

[simonlang]

Sutil to get a podium tomorrow? Who's with me on this one?

i am. (if its a full wet race)

[carmatic]

here's a picture to prove that i was there

the red bull and mclaren cars during the second qualifying session...

it was raining so the lighting conditions were gloomy , and my camera was crap so it had to use a long exposure and the cars look blurry...

but it was sure quite an experience to see a mclaren spin out with my very own eyes

also they had a concert thing going on where i think it was Wyclef Jean's band rehearsing and doing sound checks, and a bunch of Ferrari guys decided to get some photo opportunities, despite the screen behind them still showing the colour band test pattern... you sort of only see one of them in this picture cuz the rest of the pictures i took are too blurry and not worth uploading...

[ludeboy12]

I could see Sutil on the podium. Webber will make some mistake and Vettel will win. That is provided sebs car can acutally go the distance without problems this week.

[simonlang]

?here's a picture to prove that i was there

?

the red bull and mclaren cars during the second qualifying session...

i bet my ass that this car in front of the redbull is m.schumacher in the mercedes and not a mclaren car.

[.mcman]

i bet my ass that this car in front of the redbull is m.schumacher in the mercedes and not a mclaren car.

heh, I think that's Rosberg. Schumacher's helmet is still red, right?

[carmatic]

i bet my ass that this car in front of the redbull is m.schumacher in the mercedes and not a mclaren car.

dangit your right... gaah i've gotten mixed up with the liveries this year, i was half asleep when i posted that... mclaren have that bright fluorescent orange now that i think about it, impossible to miss especially in the rain

it could be the mercedes , or the bmw sauber , too blurry to see the red stripe going down the sides...?

i dont think im gonna bother with my camera today, even as i type this i could see the stormclouds on the horizon out of my window...

[MightyJordan]

Well done to Red Bull; a 1-2 finish for them. At least Button and Hamilton got in the points.

[+Frank B. Subscriber²]

Pretty good race - despite the lack of rain. Well done to Red Bull, they controlled the race.

Bad luck for Schumacher; without the wheel nut issue he could have made it to 4th or maybe even 3rd.

Ferrari seem to have an issue with reliability. Both Saubers having engine issues, Alonso's engine blowing up two laps from the end... looks like a problem.

Bring on China two weeks from now.

[simonlang]

amazing race. i loved hamiltons many overtakings, he really is one of the biggest fighters out there :cool:

great that redbull brought it home this time.

and im impressed by the great race massa drove. again past his overrated team-mate after the start. and then managed to overtaking button who enjoys a 10kph topspeed advantage.

now he is leading the world championship!!!! :laugh:

alonso lost his 4th engine already, given the horrible reliability of ferrari he might be out already. :yes:

[Billus]

Pretty good race - despite the lack of rain. Well done to Red Bull, they controlled the race.

Bad luck for Schumacher; without the wheel nut issue he could have made it to 4th or maybe even 3rd.

Ferrari seem to have an issue with reliability. Both Saubers having engine issues, Alonso's engine blowing up two laps from the end... looks like a problem.

Bring on China two weeks from now.

Twas good. Alonso blew a cylinder just before the corner trying to overtake Button; he put the engine in high revs at Ferrari's request in order to overtake Button. He was suffering a gearbox issue since the start of the race, mostly relating to downshifts so that was really pushing his and the teams luck.

Should've been Webbers' race. Oh well, congrats to Vettel. Poor Schumi though, he had good pace. Congrats to Sutil as well, drove a fantastic race in the Force India.

Edit:

alonso lost his 4th engine already, given the horrible reliability of ferrari he might be out already. :yes:

I believe he's only lost one, the one he lost this race. The other 3 (you sure it's 3, I know they replaced one before the Bahrain race?) are still good for practice sessions so no real biggie. Am I right to say your a Hamilton fan and hate Alonso?

[simonlang]

I believe he's only lost one, the one he lost this race. The other 3 are still good for practice sessions so no real biggie. Am I right to say your a Hamilton fan and hate Alonso?

both ferrari drivers had to exchange the engine already before bahrain and changed again for melbourne. using the same one this time (and it blew up on alonsos car) means he ll be on the 4th engine next race. im no engine-expert but pretty sure the current one is damaged. dont know about the bahrain ones, but it doesnt look good for ferrari.

actually, im a ferrari fan myself and a big fan of felipe massa. i never bought the raikkonen hype while he was at ferrari and now its the same with alonso. despite all that "tamtamtam" also alonso gets outperformed and beaten by massa.

i also think hamilton and vettel are very impressive drivers. vettel more in the qualifying and hamilton shows great fighting spirit in the race.

[Mr. Gibs]

actually, im a ferrari fan myself and a big fan of felipe massa. i never bought the raikkonen hype while he was at ferrari and now its the same with alonso. despite all that "tamtamtam" also alonso gets outperformed and beaten by massa.

Name: mclaren2

avatar: ferrari

Interesting :rofl: :p

[simonlang]

Name: mclaren2

avatar: ferrari

Interesting :rofl: :p

it has a history. mclaren nick was taken already, so i took mclaren2. and look at the date i joined the forum. it was in 2003. who was driving for mclaren back then? :whistle:

[san.W10]

Alonso bemoans 'hardest race ever'

Fernando Alonso labelled the Malaysian Grand Prix as the hardest race of his life after having to cope with gearbox issues before retiring.

The Ferrari driver lost his clutch before the start of the race and was forced to step on the throttle on corners in order for the gears to engage.

Despite that, Alonso battled with team-mate Felipe Massa and McLaren's Jenson Button, before an engine failure forced him out with two laps to go.

The Spaniard looked set for ninth position, which would have helped him keep the championship lead. As it was, however, Alonso is now tied in second place, two points behind Massa.

"From the start things went wrong," Alonso told Spanish television. "On the formation lap my gearbox broke and I had no clutch during the race, so I had to brake in a weird way.

"I had to first gear down and then push the throttle hard so it would engage the gear for that corner.

"So it was probably the hardest race of my whole life in terms of driving, because I had to improvise for every corner. But even so we were going to get a few points, which in the end was not possible because of the engine.

"But if the gearbox and then the engine are going to break, it's better than in happens when you are ninth than when you are leading and you lose 25 points."

He added: "A tough weekend. Sometimes it's us, sometimes it's other. You have to take the opportunities."

http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/82694

frikin amazing stuff from Alonso.

rev. matching to change gears, in every corner, in that malaysian heat. awesomeness!

if massa was in that position, he'd have finished outside points.

Massa's engineer HAD to tell him to attack Jenson, lol.

with a good car he needed someone to tell him that, its a race. :p

Alosno with a broken g-box, attacked JB & even overtook him, but unfortunately that engine had taken too much.

i say drop massa in 2011 & get kimi back :p

[brentaal]

if massa was in that position, he'd have finished outside points.

You mean just like Alonso?

[ahmz]

Massa has definitely improved his consistency over the past years, now he just needs a bit more pace.

[Billus]

I have to say, Formula 1 is really missing Kimi. Kimi is a classic character, unique really. Doesn't waffle on about irrelevant crap, just gets the job done and does it right. One thing that sticks to my mind is in Malaysia last year, when it was pouring rain and the race had stopped; Kimi hopped out of the car and into the Ferrari lounge to grab some ice-cream before the red flag, classic. He's also an extremely talented driver and was one of the 3 (Haikonnen and Montoya) who could attack Schumi when he was in his prime (perfect car, perfect team. I'm not saying he's uncompetitive now. I think he's still got it in him, just needs to find his way with the car and find the perfect setup. Top 10 in the qualies after 3 years away from the sport is a great achievement in itself.). He makes races interesting and has interesting driving moves such as driving to the outside of the track to overtake. He managed to pull Ferrari last year in a crappy, uncompetitive car to a respectable fourth in the constructors and in return, Ferrari kick him out. Hopefully Kimi gets another stint in Formula 1 with a respectable and competitive team.

Perhaps we will see Kimi with Red Bull next year as Vettel hinted before the race in an interview that he would like to be with Ferrari, maybe as soon as next season. But where will Massa go? :(

Alonso is a great driver in his own right and is finding himself well with the Ferrari.

Who else is looking forward for next season? Two or more tyre brands (Michelin I think has been confirmed as well as Bridgestone), possible return of KERS, no double diffusers and hopefully we will go back to refueling.

[ahmz]

Haikonnen? Hakkinen :p

And Massa had scored most of Ferrari's points before his accident in qualifying at the Hungary GP last year.

[Mike]

Alosno with a broken g-box, attacked JB & even overtook him, but unfortunately that engine had taken too much.

Failing to stop for the corner doesn't count as an overtake, you need to take the corner and come out ahead for it to count

Overall, it was a decent race, however, how much of that was down to the mixed grid i'm not sure. Was definitely better than Bahrain though but still showed the old problem of being unable to pass similar / slightly slower cars. Massa passing Button was down to Button having some seriously old tyres on and mismatches like that aren't going to be too common.

[simonlang]

if massa was in that position, he'd have finished outside points.

i very much doubt that!

lets not forget people, massa was in similar troubles like alonso today in bahrain. but he kept it cool, slowed a bit down and finished 2nd. you just have to finish in points with the new points system otherwise you are lost pretty much.

Massa's engineer HAD to tell him to attack Jenson, lol.

you mean that engineer who alonso wanted to steal away from felipe after he arrived to ferrari but failed? :p

interviews like today are the fact i dont like alonso. he just cant accept getting beaten by a strong teammate. he was crying against hamilton and is now doing the same against massa.

he is such a diva. all has to be a big drama, now he tells like he did great but he just overcook his engine. thats not great, thats stupid!

[san.W10]

Failing to stop for the corner doesn't count as an overtake, you need to take the corner and come out ahead for it to count

lets say, Alosno had clutch (when passing JB), i dont see him running wide in that corner.

he couldnt get the power soon enough to keep the lead, he could have blocked JB if had got the power soon enough, coz JB with degraded tyre wouldnt have tried anything silly, that too just 2 laps to go.

Ferrari should have informed FA about his engine's condition, atleast then he could have been still leading the WDC with 2 points.

so another bummer from Ferrari team, in the same weekend.

Alonso onboard video - last part of the race

http://www.megaupload.com/?d=F7XI3DPF

Onboard with Alonso early in the race

http://www.megaupload.com/?d=P37RD1PT

source: http://forums.autosport.com/index.php?showtopic=119928&st=1800

You mean just like Alonso?

well, if it was Massa, i think he would have been out of points position before half distnace :p

anyways, i hink he is still recovering from Hungary or FA is already #1 in the team :p

coz even with a broken car FA posted 2nd fastest lap.

http://www.formula1.com/results/season/2010/826/6717/fastest_laps.html