F1 World Championship 2010 Thread

[Kerm]

Do you guys think Massa would of just been slapped on the wrist if he didn't obey the orders?

Surely the look on his face in the post race interviews told you how much he didn't want to be apart of any of it. I don't think he's to blame at all.

[Crompee]

Do you guys think Massa would of just been slapped on the wrist if he didn't obey the orders?

Surely the look on his face in the post race interviews told you how much he didn't want to be apart of any of it. I don't think he's to blame at all.

I completly agree with you that he didnt want to be part of it and that he'd of loved to win the race.

However, that does not mean he didnt break the rules, If Alonso gets punished, so should Massa. Massa shouldnt be rewarded with a #1 finish when he broke the rules. Ferrari ordered him to let Alonso passed and he let Alonso passed. You could use almost the same argument as a reason Alonso shouldnt be punished, Alonso didnt order Massa to let him pass, Ferrari decided that it would be better.

Its nothing really do with the drivers but its the drivers who will get punished as thats the way you punish the whole team for breaking rules. Ferrari used team-orders and there drivers followed those orders, so both drivers should get punished regardless of weither they wanted to follow them or not.

Think of it like this, Team X orders a race driver to crash in order to get a safety car out which will allow there other driver to win the race.. Should that driver be punished? he had no real choice, he was ordered to crash and if he said no.. he would likely be sacked. Of course he should be punished, motive or feelings dont come into it when its just a case of 'did they break the rules'. (Note: the only reason the 'crasher' didnt get punished in the Renault case was that he was the wistleblower and got immunity in return for his account of what happend).

[Subject Delta]

Ferrari fully deserve to be disqualified. Yes, we know all teams use team orders, but to do it so publicly, so obviously, and then to bare faced lie to the fans, and the media is absolutely atrocious. I have said it before and I will continue to say it, Ferrari are a greedy team that lack class.

[Antaris Veteran]

Should be an interesting race. Vettel hasn't had to much luck converting a pole into a top podium. I expect both Ferarri's to get quite decent starts. Hopefully Hamilton can do some good off the line, but unfortunately he's got 4 very fast cars ahead of him, so he might find its better to play defensive for the race and try and do damage limitation. Can't see how Button will be second after this race :(

[acnpt]

**** Hamilton out. He was 4th, had a chance at 3rd, could have even been 2nd with Vettel under investigation.

[simonlang]

unbelievable! they are gonna hand out another undeserved win to the horrible alonso. :angry:

[thugilex]

why dont they go back to the 10 point system like years b4 ?

[ahmz]

I thought this was going to be boring but the SC has turned the race on it's head! Webber, Alonso or Vettel? Who's gonna win?! Push push push! This is what we wanna see!

[MightyJordan]

Who do I want to win? Well, Button, obviously, but he's still in 9th, so in that case, anyone but Alonso. I'd love if Massa won so he could rub it in his face. :p

Oh, quick question, what did Schumacher do? I heard on the commentary that he's being investigated after the race.

[ViZioN]

Who do I want to win? Well, Button, obviously, but he's still in 9th, so in that case, anyone but Alonso. I'd love if Massa won so he could rub it in his face. :p

Oh, quick question, what did Schumacher do? I heard on the commentary that he's being investigated after the race.

I think that was a mistake by the stewards. It's actually Rosberg they're investigating for his right rear coming off in the pit lane.

[ahmz]

Webber for the win!

[simonlang]

vettel giving up 3 laps before the race end. :crazy:

[MightyJordan]

OK, Schumacher's definitely being investigated now!

[ahmz]

Vettel likes to get the fastest laps.... Schumacher killed it! That was so dangerous...

Go Webber!

[acnpt]

Kobayashi had a cracking drive too. From 24th to 9th.

[Antaris Veteran]

Great race. After the first few laps I thought it was going to be boring, but after the pit carnage all hell broke loose :D

Well done to Webber, shame for Hamilton's DNF :(

The only thing better than Alonso not finishing is Vettel getting stung too :D

[Richard Hammond]

Schumacher should have been black flagged for that ridiculous display, rubens wheel was so close to being ripped off by the wall. Well deserved win by Mark Webber. Shame about Hamilton.

[Dhillon]

'Crazy Guy' almost killed Rubinho.

[MightyJordan]

Schumacher gets 10-place grid penalty

Michael Schumacher will lose ten places on the starting grid for the Belgian Grand Prix after being penalised for his driving in Hungary.

The German and Williams driver Rubens Barrichello came very close to crashing after Schumacher pushed the Brazilian against the wall on the main straight as the Brazilian attempted to pass.

The move angered Barrichello, who slammed Schumacher's move as 'crazy' after the race.

Schumacher himself said he had done nothing wrong.

The FIA stewards penalised the seven-time champion as he had "illegitimately impeded car 9 during an overtaking manoeuvre."

The Mercedes driver will lose ten places on the grid in the next race in Belgium.

Schumacher to be penalised ten grid places at Spa. Hence, he will start from 26th.

:p

[Antaris Veteran]

[acnpt]

There was a horrible accident in Superleague formula 2010 at Brands Hatch today, almost like what could have happened to Barrichello.

[san.W10]

Mercedes set to switch focus to 2011

Mercedes team boss Ross Brawn says his outfit will switch its focus to the 2011 car following the end of the summer break.

He said Mercedes will work on one more upgrade package that will be introduced during the Singapore Grand Prix, but admitted the main priority will be the new car once the summer break ends.

"I think there is one more step we want to do before the end of the year to take full advantage of the low exhaust position, that is something we will target for Singapore," said Brawn.

"That was coming through already but clearly after the break our priority will be the new car."

Brawn conceded the team had not been able to extract the maximum from this year's car, and felt there was no point in continuing to spend time on it.

"There were another set of regulations this year with no refuelling, and one or two other things," he said. "We didn't perhaps hit the sweet spot with the current car, so I don't think we will throw much more resource at it.

"We understand what we need to do next year and that is where we are putting our major efforts."

http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/85836

[Buio]

I'm not a fan of the 4-week break during summer, even if I can understand the need for a vacation for the teams and personnel. I need my F1 fix. :D

20,5 days left to next race now.

[+Frank B. Subscriber²]

I'm not a fan of the 4-week break during summer, even if I can understand the need for a vacation for the teams and personnel. I need my F1 fix. :D

20,5 days left to next race now.

You could always watch NASCAR as a temporary fix. :shifty:

(I kid, I kid.)

[ViZioN]

There was a horrible accident in Superleague formula 2010 at Brands Hatch today, almost like what could have happened to Barrichello.

That's a horrendous crash. I hope the guy is OK.