fix-this! Posted February 10, 2010 Share Posted February 10, 2010 imagine how dark they could make this! nah...you can't do a reboot and the first film kill off superman. id save that for a 3rd sequel. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/873912-christopher-nolan-overseeing-superman-for-warner-bros/page/2/#findComment-592225034 Share on other sites More sharing options...
KoL Veteran Posted February 10, 2010 Veteran Share Posted February 10, 2010 Yeah I think The Death of Superman would be better as the third movie of a trilogy. Nolan as a director would be great. I agree with some of the members here that a darker story would be good. dark story, not the characters. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/873912-christopher-nolan-overseeing-superman-for-warner-bros/page/2/#findComment-592225040 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rappy Veteran Posted February 10, 2010 Author Veteran Share Posted February 10, 2010 nah...you can't do a reboot and the first film kill off superman. id save that for a 3rd sequel. I am not saying that should be the first movie I am just saying how dark they could make that story seeing as it has death and not everything is all happy. Who says its going to go to a third sequel...the reboot may fail badly. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/873912-christopher-nolan-overseeing-superman-for-warner-bros/page/2/#findComment-592225052 Share on other sites More sharing options...
fix-this! Posted February 10, 2010 Share Posted February 10, 2010 I am not saying that should be the first movie I am just saying how dark they could make that story seeing as it has death and not everything is all happy. Who says its going to go to a third sequel...the reboot may fail badly. if done right, there could be many movies made out of this reboot. personally i like superman returns but to each there own i guess, most hated it. Yeah I think The Death of Superman would be better as the third movie of a trilogy. Nolan as a director would be great. I agree with some of the members here that a darker story would be good. dark story, not the characters. see after the dark knight im worried about what he would do with the characters, superman mostly. i think nolan should stick to batman. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/873912-christopher-nolan-overseeing-superman-for-warner-bros/page/2/#findComment-592225064 Share on other sites More sharing options...
KoL Veteran Posted February 10, 2010 Veteran Share Posted February 10, 2010 I am not saying that should be the first movie I am just saying how dark they could make that story seeing as it has death and not everything is all happy. Who says its going to go to a third sequel...the reboot may fail badly. I hope not. I really want to see a great "modern" Superman movie(s). I prefer Superman over Batman. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/873912-christopher-nolan-overseeing-superman-for-warner-bros/page/2/#findComment-592225114 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rappy Veteran Posted February 11, 2010 Author Veteran Share Posted February 11, 2010 I want to as well, even though Marvel > DC imo :p I loved Dark Knight and would like to see Superman in the same vain Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/873912-christopher-nolan-overseeing-superman-for-warner-bros/page/2/#findComment-592225128 Share on other sites More sharing options...
fix-this! Posted February 11, 2010 Share Posted February 11, 2010 I hope not. I really want to see a great "modern" Superman movie(s). I prefer Superman over Batman. same here, from what ive been reading, rumors of a future nolan batman and nolan superman may team up for a 'world finest" movie. i think DC is trying to get a justice league movie off the ground. marvel basically is powning them atm with the avengers and all of the superhero movies coming out. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/873912-christopher-nolan-overseeing-superman-for-warner-bros/page/2/#findComment-592225140 Share on other sites More sharing options...
.Kompressor Posted February 11, 2010 Share Posted February 11, 2010 should be good with Nolan... but what's with killing superman off anyway....hell the guy hasn't fought any real villians yet except the repeat of luther over and over....new villian or villians please... the last one was well shot imo...just need more action....less on the lois drama.. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/873912-christopher-nolan-overseeing-superman-for-warner-bros/page/2/#findComment-592225688 Share on other sites More sharing options...
ASilvaA Posted February 11, 2010 Share Posted February 11, 2010 same here, from what ive been reading, rumors of a future nolan batman and nolan superman may team up for a 'world finest" movie. i think DC is trying to get a justice league movie off the ground. marvel basically is powning them atm with the avengers and all of the superhero movies coming out. +1 The only really bad thing would be no TDK Joker (RIP Heath), but "World's Finest" is better than a lot of movies out there, and even the end of the first (of three parts) episode is better than the entire Superman Returns movie! :) Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/873912-christopher-nolan-overseeing-superman-for-warner-bros/page/2/#findComment-592225738 Share on other sites More sharing options...
benplace Posted February 11, 2010 Share Posted February 11, 2010 I wish hollywood would stop with the 3D crap, it gives me a headache. A good story doesnt need 3D effects. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/873912-christopher-nolan-overseeing-superman-for-warner-bros/page/2/#findComment-592225744 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xero Posted February 11, 2010 Share Posted February 11, 2010 ^ Correct me if I'm wrong, but I don't believe you NEED to watch a 3D movie in 3D. It looks fine without the glasses, it just adds to it. Can't say that for sure though. but what's with killing superman off anyway....hell the guy hasn't fought any real villians yet except the repeat of luther over and over....new villian or villians please... Its a more serious storyline from the comics. Besides you can't really ever kill off a Superhero. Even if they did they can always bring him back, in the same film or a sequel. I think it'd be a bold move to kill him in the 1st only for him to return in the sequel. Even if it was in the same movie I think it has a nice change of pace from most movies. The first Matrix comes to mind, although his death didn't last very long. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/873912-christopher-nolan-overseeing-superman-for-warner-bros/page/2/#findComment-592227902 Share on other sites More sharing options...
seta-san Posted February 11, 2010 Share Posted February 11, 2010 I'm not into reboots but Superman is definitely one franchise that needs it. None of the movies have really delivered an awesome Superman experience to me. they need to make a more realistic lex luthor and clark. both of them seem two dimentional in the reeves movies. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/873912-christopher-nolan-overseeing-superman-for-warner-bros/page/2/#findComment-592227926 Share on other sites More sharing options...
perochan Posted February 11, 2010 Share Posted February 11, 2010 Thats nice. hope Nolan can bring Superman back to his feet. If Nolan makes the new Superman a success, they should start thinking a Justice League movie since The Average is in the process of making. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/873912-christopher-nolan-overseeing-superman-for-warner-bros/page/2/#findComment-592227978 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Draconian Guppy Posted February 11, 2010 Share Posted February 11, 2010 But there's no joker in superman, how's he going to pull it off? :shiftyninja: Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/873912-christopher-nolan-overseeing-superman-for-warner-bros/page/2/#findComment-592227982 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orange Battery Posted February 11, 2010 Share Posted February 11, 2010 I think Brandon Routh was a very good Superman caught in a typical 80's Superman script. Routh would be great in a reboot, do they need to do the whole superman growing up and meeting Lois lane etc again though? The one thing I hate about reboots is we spend the first film going over the same early story we have seen time and time again, then by the 3rd film it reboots. Why cant they take Routh away from the current story line and into a much edgier format without having to do the whole thing from the beginning again. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/873912-christopher-nolan-overseeing-superman-for-warner-bros/page/2/#findComment-592228066 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Draconian Guppy Posted February 11, 2010 Share Posted February 11, 2010 I think Brandon Routh was a very good Superman caught in a typical 80's Superman script. Routh would be great in a reboot, do they need to do the whole superman growing up and meeting Lois lane etc again though? The one thing I hate about reboots is we spend the first film going over the same early story we have seen time and time again, then by the 3rd film it reboots. Why cant they take Routh away from the current story line and into a much edgier format without having to do the whole thing from the beginning again. +1 Routh was alright, even if he did need to get his weener reduced digitally. Personally I'd love to see bizzarro superman! and all the rest of teh kryptonite variants. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/873912-christopher-nolan-overseeing-superman-for-warner-bros/page/2/#findComment-592228408 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rappy Veteran Posted February 24, 2010 Author Veteran Share Posted February 24, 2010 Today is huge comic book movie news Wednesday. With the Captain America finalists breaking over at Marvel, we got something from the world of DC. Our notorious trusted source 'Pinche Taco'came up big for us... I know a lot of you folks are going to ask "Isn't Goyer writing the third Batman film?" Goyer is only helping in the story, he ain't writing it. Just like The Dark Knight, where he only helped with the story. Without any further adieu.. Hola Chicos, Pinche Taco here with the latest blatherings de nada de los Ninos de Hollywood! So you will believe un hombre can fly! Te Juro. The talented David Stephen Goyer, the man who made sure Nolan stuck to the legend of El Dark Knight, has been hired to write the next chapter. Here is what El Taco can tell all you ninos.... 1. Thomas Tull, the head of Legendary, got tired of all the discussion and decided chingate, let's do it. So he went to Goyer and Goyer had an idea that actually takes the movies back to the John Byrne incarnation. Modern. Believable. FUN! So Tull got Goyer hired. 2. The film will not be called Superman and will be called THE MAN OF STEEL. 3. Brandon Routh will not star in the film. 4. Nic Cage will NOT star in the fllm (lol) 5. Bryan Singer is not expected to direct. Conoces como Mark Millar walks around acting like he was going to write it? El Taco discovered that this was always bull****. Paul Levitz hated the guy and he was never even discussed to write it. He made all that "almost" stuff up. I can tell you that Goyer's story involves Luthor and Brainiac. It is NOT an origin and assumes audiences already know about Lois, Clark, Jimmy and Perry. I know the Daily Planet is struggling due to the internet. And I know it sets up a huge Kryptonian mythology. El Taco is muy excited about this. This could be the Superman movie we deserve! Yo soy El Taco y yo digo adios! Stay tuned as the story develops. Source Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/873912-christopher-nolan-overseeing-superman-for-warner-bros/page/2/#findComment-592278082 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Draconian Guppy Posted February 24, 2010 Share Posted February 24, 2010 lol Go figure, nolan didn't call the dark knight batman... Now teh same for superman :) But I insist, there's no joker in the superman universe! how's he going to pull it off?! Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/873912-christopher-nolan-overseeing-superman-for-warner-bros/page/2/#findComment-592278114 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rappy Veteran Posted February 24, 2010 Author Veteran Share Posted February 24, 2010 lol Go figure, nolan didn't call the dark knight batman... Now teh same for superman :) But I insist, there's no joker in the superman universe! how's he going to pull it off?! Yeah I thought he would go to Goyer, could explain why he left Flashforward Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/873912-christopher-nolan-overseeing-superman-for-warner-bros/page/2/#findComment-592278128 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xero Posted February 25, 2010 Share Posted February 25, 2010 I think its nice calling them different names other than mixing up the ranking alphabetically in my iTunes list :angry: I think giving it a name like this psychologically makes it more appealing to non comic book fans. Although I seriously doubt anyone is going to end up seeing it and being surprised Superman is in it :laugh: I hope they keep any crossovers to a minimum. Enough to show that these characters are in the same 'universe' but not overdue it like they are having weekend bbq's at each other's house. The subtle one's are always the best. Like in Marvel's movies catching a glimpse of a character in the background from another movie or a quick scene of them meeting. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/873912-christopher-nolan-overseeing-superman-for-warner-bros/page/2/#findComment-592279146 Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Anarkii Subscriber² Posted February 25, 2010 Subscriber² Share Posted February 25, 2010 Brandon Routh made a great Superman tho :( Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/873912-christopher-nolan-overseeing-superman-for-warner-bros/page/2/#findComment-592279928 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rappy Veteran Posted February 27, 2010 Author Veteran Share Posted February 27, 2010 Director Christopher Nolan's brother Jonah is reportedly in talks to helm the next Superman movie. According to IESB, The Man of Steel will mark Jonah's directorial debut after co-scripting The Dark Knight and The Prestige. The site also reported that Christopher's role in the film will involve setting up the building blocks for a forthcoming Justice League movie that he will direct. Studio Warner Bros has yet to officially comment on these claims. Earlier this week, it was revealed that Batman Begins writer David S. Goyer has signed to pen the script for The Man of Steel. Jonah and Goyer are also apparently writing the next Batman film. Source Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/873912-christopher-nolan-overseeing-superman-for-warner-bros/page/2/#findComment-592287812 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xero Posted February 28, 2010 Share Posted February 28, 2010 I won't believe it until I see it officially. Doesn't seem like something he'd want to do, although money can cure most issues like that. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/873912-christopher-nolan-overseeing-superman-for-warner-bros/page/2/#findComment-592289756 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rappy Veteran Posted March 10, 2010 Author Veteran Share Posted March 10, 2010 Remember when DC Entertainment president Diane Nelson denied that Christopher Nolan was overseeing the new Superman film? It?s stories like this that make the movie rumor business so sketchy, because an official denial doesn?t always mean that something isn?t true. We know now that Nolan is overseeing Superman for WB as David Goyer writes the script based on a story by Nolan and Goyer. We know this because Nolan is talking about it. The director promises good things for the next Superman, and his wife, producer Emma Thomas, denies a few other recent rumors. Meanwhile, Jonathan Nolan is ?now doing the hard work? on a script for Batman 3, based on a story by Christopher Nolan and Goyer. The LA Times has quotes from Nolan and Thomas about Superman. The big one is from Nolan, speaking about the story that Goyer pitched to him when they were stalled for ideas for Batman 3: It?s very exciting, we have a fantastic story. And we feel we can do it right. We know the milieu, if you will, we know the genre and how to get it done right?[it] is a way of approaching the story I?ve never seen before that makes it incredibly exciting. I wanted to get Emma and I involved in shepherding the project right away and getting it to the studio and getting it going in an exciting way. A further quote suggests that we shouldn?t expect a team-up of Batman and Superman, at least from Nolan. The LAT describes Nolan?s Batman films as creating a world in which Batman is the only hero, and that is expected for Superman as well. ?Each serves to the internal logic of the story,? says Nolan. ?They have nothing to do with each other.? As to the specific approach, Nolan is cagey. He won?t talk villains or any real specifics.?We?re approaching it in a not dissimilar way [to the Batman films] in terms of trying to find an incredible story in a way that audiences can engage with it the way they engage with contemporary action films,? he says. He explains that the high-profile casting of the original Richard Donner Superman is what led him to his casting approach for the Batman films, so it is appropriate that Nolan is coming around to Superman now. Will it be called Man of Steel, as previously reported? ?I don?t know where this stuff comes from,? says Emma Thomas. But by ?stuff? she could be referencing a number of different rumors mentioned by the LA Times: the Man of Steel title, the inclusion of Lex Luthor and/or Braniac, and more far-fetched rumors of a period piece. That leaves us at square one with respect to having real details. With respect to Batman 3, Christopher?s brother Jonathan Nolan is currently writing the script, and few other details are being allowed out. Christopher Nolan says the villain won?t be Mr. Freeze, insists that the primary character ensemble from the previous two films will return, and that it will end their story. He explains, The key thing that makes the third film an great possibility for us is that we want to finish our story. And in viewing it as the finishing of a story rather than infinitely blowing up the balloon and expanding the story?I?m very excited about the end of the film, the conclusion, and what we?ve done with the characters. My brother has come up with some pretty exciting stuff. Unlike the comics, these thing don?t go on forever in film and viewing it as a story with an end is useful. Viewing it as an ending, that sets you very much on the right track about the appropriate conclusion and the essence of what tale we?re telling. The big question now is: who will direct both Superman and Batman 3? Nolan says he won?t direct Superman, and no other director has yet been named. As for Batman 3, Nolan is keeping quiet while he finishes Inception, but the LAT is certainly under the impression that he will helm the film. As the site says, ?Nolan, for the record, also won?t confirm that he is actually directing the third Batman film but, well, of course he is, but Inception isn?t in the can yet and it?s against his code.? Source Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/873912-christopher-nolan-overseeing-superman-for-warner-bros/page/2/#findComment-592334106 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rappy Veteran Posted June 3, 2010 Author Veteran Share Posted June 3, 2010 In the latest issue of Empire Magazine, Christopher Nolan comments on the upcoming Superman reboot that David Goyer is writing and he is producing: ?..What it is, while David Goyer and myself were putting together the story for another Batman film a few years ago, you know thrashing out where we might move on from the Dark Knight, we got stuck. We were just sitting there idly chatting and he said ?by the way, I think know how you approach Superman?.. and he told me his take on it. I thought it was really tremendous. It was the first time I?ve been able to conceive of how you?d address Superman in a modern context I thought it was a really exciting idea. What you have to remember about Batman and Superman is that what makes them the best superhero characters there are, the most beloved after all this time, is the essence of who they were when they were created, when they were first developed. You can?t move too far away from that.? There are two interesting things of note in this quote. First off, Nolan believes that Goyer has finally figured out a way to ?address Superman in a modern context.? One of the big problems with Superman, is that his attitude/design is almost too corny for the post-9/11 era. Secondly, Nolan basically says that you can?t move far away from the essence of who Superman was when he was created. The whole thing makes me a big more curious about how exactly Goyer is appraoching the property. In April we posted a video clip of Goyer saying: ?In the case of Blade, he is acting heroically, but the rest of the world thinks he?s a vigilante. As is the case with Batman. ? I don?t think I?d ever be good to write Superman because it is the opposite? [the interviewer says "he's angst free"] Yeah. And I wouldn?t know the angle because I?m so angst ridden so I wouldn?t know what to do with a character like that.? As funny as Goyer?s statement may be, could it give us a glimpse of what to expect? What Goyer said four years ago about why he wouldn?t be the right screenwriter to tackle the Man Of Steel might be the reasons why he is the right screenwriter today. Will Goyer/Nolan?s vision of the superhero be a more angst-ridden Superman? Could he be unaccepted by the people of Metropolis? Any guesses? The film has an announced December 2012 release date, so I?m sure we?re going to start finding out sooner than later. Read more: Christopher Nolan: David Goyer Figured Out How To ?Address Superman In A Modern Context? | /Film http://www.slashfilm.com/2010/06/03/christopher-nolan-david-goyer-figured-out-how-to-address-superman-in-a-modern-context/#ixzz0polwJ1ZJ Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/873912-christopher-nolan-overseeing-superman-for-warner-bros/page/2/#findComment-592703792 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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