If your system got infected, would you reformat?


If you got infected, would you reformat.  

242 members have voted

  1. 1. If you got infected, would you reformat.

    • Yes - Once you are infected, your sytsem can never be trusted again.
      159
    • No - I feel confident that once I get rid of all the malware my personal data from this point foward would not be at risk.
      83


Recommended Posts

If it's easy to get rid of, no problem. There's hardly anything confidential about anything I do on my PC. No online banking stuff that can be used without the actual card etc.

Format IMO is a last resort or a lazy mans way of fixing something. Either because they don't want to take the time or have no idea how to fix it. ( on customers computer)

No matter what you do you still need to scan the customers data before you put it back on their computer( If you plan on formatting)

Then you need to reinstall the os, download drivers, update the system and test everything out.

Time wise, I don't see a big difference.

When I did computer repair we never charged for time spent scanning for issues, only the time spent installing the spyware removal tools etc...and the time spent removing infections. anytime the computer was scanning or defragging etc...there was no time charged. When the scanning was complete however, then the time began again. Why would you charge a customer for time spent on something when you weren't doing anything to the computer?

It's really a one on one basis on how you deal with a problem. Sometimes the time needed to track down drivers, reinstall everything, update everything, install their apps and test everything takes longer than scanning and repairing.

I am a firm believer in that you can most certainly get rid of all spyware or virus's without formatting.

Format IMO is a last resort or a lazy mans way of fixing something. Either because they don't want to take the time or have no idea how to fix it. ( on customers computer)

No matter what you do you still need to scan the customers data before you put it back on their computer( If you plan on formatting)

Then you need to reinstall the os, download drivers, update the system and test everything out.

Time wise, I don't see a big difference.

When I did computer repair we never charged for time spent scanning for issues, only the time spent installing the spyware removal tools etc...and the time spent removing infections. anytime the computer was scanning or defragging etc...there was no time charged. When the scanning was complete however, then the time began again. Why would you charge a customer for time spent on something when you weren't doing anything to the computer?

It's really a one on one basis on how you deal with a problem. Sometimes the time needed to track down drivers, reinstall everything, update everything, install their apps and test everything takes longer than scanning and repairing.

I am a firm believer in that you can most certainly get rid of all spyware or virus's without formatting.

I'm assuming that is when the customer brought them to your shop. What would you have done if you did in home service calls?

Depends on the severity of the virus. For a serious one, I would copy my essential documents to my external hard drive via BartPE and format. Otherwise, I would clean the system with an av and use various tools to make sure the system is clean before using it again properly.

I wouldn't, well I would if it was a serious virus, like the last one I had (like 4 years ago lol) but if I got clumsy and ended up with some kind of adware I wouldn't bother. Most viruses I would be fine just cleaning with an AV.

If it is bad enough for me to reformat then yes. If the malware is bad enough to keep reappearing or if the computer begins to crawl, definitely yes.

If I know what malware is installed in the first place, most likely I would leave the computer alone till I feel like reformating.

A few years ago I just wiped, no questions asked

Now I am much more clued up in virus removal and I would say 90-95% of infections I can remove myself and be confident they are dead, the other 5-10% are the nasties that no matter what you do, what you use, how many google searches and registry edit you do, they just wont go away - then I wipe

But I dont get infections like that now... if any - as becoming clued up on removal also clued me up on how not to get infected in the first place - also as AVs get better, connection to malware sites are cancelled before you get there, file downloads are stopped before the virus even reaches the PC etc etc

I always reformat after a virus etc. It's not just because of the trust thing though. Even after running loads of scans and removing everything that's found, there's always some crap left over and you're bound to have annoying issues in some situations.

So it's really just easier/safer/better to do a clean reinstall/restore a clean image.

Formatting is a last resort, but I've done it often in the past before I learned a few things.

My most recent malware removal was on my mom's xp machine. She got some fake anti-spyware crap from an infected ad on a news site. She didn't click the ad, and it just happened to come from somewhere that wasn't listed in the Adblock filter or hosts file.

Thankfully she has listened to me before and knew not to click anything when it came up with it's bull**** claims.

Between Spybot and Malwarebytes, the problem was solved easily.

I renewed my OS when I installed Windows 7. Before that I renewed my OS with Vista. Those are the only times I ever reformated. I do a daily backup to an external drive and did run my OS drive Mirrored.

I no longer mirror becuse I am now using an SSD for my OS.

If for whatever reason I need to renew my OS it takes less then 10 minutes to reimage using Acronis Home.

Formatting is a last resort, but I've done it often in the past before I learned a few things.

My most recent malware removal was on my mom's xp machine. She got some fake anti-spyware crap from an infected ad on a news site. She didn't click the ad, and it just happened to come from somewhere that wasn't listed in the Adblock filter or hosts file.

Thankfully she has listened to me before and knew not to click anything when it came up with it's bull**** claims.

Between Spybot and Malwarebytes, the problem was solved easily.

I don't really think you can REALLY clean a system that has been infected. It's much better to revert back to a clean backup if you have or had an infection. Just because one infection was cleaned doesn't mean that BOT is not just setting there, waiting.

I always do a clean install of a customer site if they have been infected. Almost everyone does some sort of very personal things on their system like banking, investments and the such. I could never be 100% sure and that is what we strive for with our customers, or family

  • 3 weeks later...

If I ever got infected I would shoot myself... to foot. Because if you do get infected most likely you are doing something wrong, and bleeding is a good way to remember the stupid **** you are. Just kidding, but it is true. How in the god sake ppl get infected over and over again. Running java applets just fun of it? Clicking ok to every question that your OS present to you. Using god sake old applications that like to receive **** from outside? Downloading and running every executable from the interwebs? Using one of the god damn stupid "Desktop Firewalls" and l33t killz warez anti-virus proff that makes you godlike? And yes, Softpedia, deviantart and other places that are legit won't mean that the download is clean and legit.

So, if I got infected, sure why not. I could reinstall. Only thing i lose is OS itself... and leg. Altho, getting infected is the hard part. Sure you can run a format command for drive, put if you never install anything and something ask for password... meh. Only way to get infected is security hole in either OS itself or program... which also causes a prompt if it tries to infect core except when there is a hole or program runs with required privs.

Hey, bloody needle, better to pick it up *stuck* Ouch.

This topic is now closed to further replies.
  • Recently Browsing   0 members

    • No registered users viewing this page.
  • Posts

    • It wouldn't be hard for me to turn off my TV, if I had one. For one thing, I never scroll Instagram. The only reason I have an account is because Meta created one when it merged the account systems for its various services.
    • OpenAI's new GPT-5.5-Cyber tops Claude Mythos 5 in vulnerability benchmark by Pradeep Viswanathan OpenAI today announced a major expansion of Daybreak, a cybersecurity initiative designed to help defenders find, validate, and fix software vulnerabilities earlier in the development process. The availability of powerful AI models has definitely changed the cybersecurity landscape by making vulnerability discovery much faster. However, the bigger bottleneck for the industry is now patching those vulnerabilities. Impacted software teams need to validate the discovered issues, understand their impact, develop fixes, test them, and deploy patches. Back in March, OpenAI launched a preview of Codex Security, which uses agentic reasoning with automated validation to discover high-impact issues and actionable fixes specific to the codebase. Since then, it has scanned more than 30 million commits across over 30,000 codebases; more than 70,000 findings were marked as fixed by human reviewers, while over 500,000 findings were automatically determined to be fixed. Now, OpenAI is releasing an updated Codex Security plugin that can run deep scans, review recent code changes, generate security reports, trace attack paths, validate findings, and create codebase-specific patches for human review. It can also triage findings from existing scanners, advisories, bug bounty reports, and ticketing systems. OpenAI says the plugin can export results to vulnerability management systems and integrate with workflows using SARIF files, CodeQL queries, the Codex CLI, and the Codex app. Back in May, OpenAI announced the preview of GPT-5.5-Cyber, a new model built on top of the recently released GPT-5.5, designed for specialized cybersecurity work. Today, OpenAI launched the full version of GPT-5.5-Cyber through a limited release for verified defenders. On CyberGym, GPT-5.5-Cyber scored 85.6%, compared with 81.8% for GPT-5.5 and 83.8% for Claude Mythos 5. It also scored 39.5% on ExploitGym, compared with 25.95% for GPT-5.5, and 69.8% on SEC-bench Pro, compared with 63.1%. OpenAI also announced the new Daybreak Cyber Partner Program, which will allow security vendors and service providers to use GPT-5.5 with Trusted Access for Cyber in their products and services. Accenture, Akamai, Cisco, Cloudflare, CrowdStrike, IBM, Palo Alto Networks, Proofpoint, SentinelOne, Wiz, Zscaler, and others were listed as initial partners for this program. OpenAI is also launching Patch the Planet with Trail of Bits, HackerOne, Calif, researchers, and maintainers. More than 30 open-source projects have committed to participate, including cURL, Go, Python, Sigstore, and pyca/cryptography.
    • AMD confirms 26.6.2 FSR driver breaks on many Windows PCs by Sayan Sen Earlier today AMD released a major graphics driver update as it brings support for FSR 4.1 to Radeon RX 7000 series GPUs. The new update, version 26.6.2, also brings support for Assassin's Creed Black Flag Resynced and more. And while the driver technically supports Windows 10 version 21H2 and newer, the tech giant has confirmed that there is a major issue with the new driver on non-Windows 11 PCs as it fails to launch properly on such systems. The error message says, "The version of AMD Software that you have launched is not compatible with your currently installed AMD graphics driver." Therefore on the surface it looks like a compatibility problem. AMD has also confirmed that the device manager will display the yellow bang or yellow exclamation sign alongside your GPU under the Display adapters dropdown. Here is what the Radeon team's official advisory recommends to affected users: "Users Running Windows 10 and AMD Software: Adrenalin Edition 26.6.2 May Encounter Yellow Bang in Device Manager Affecting AMD Radeon RX Series Graphics ... Our Engineers are currently investigating this issue and will provide a fix once it is available. Affected users may revert to AMD Software: Adrenalin Edition 26.6.1 as a temporary workaround." As such you should revert back to the previous 26.6.1 driver which was released earlier this month. In case you were looking to play Assassin's Creed Black Flag Resynced and DOOM: The Dark Ages | Revelations you will probably have to wait a while if you want the driver to support those games officially. You can find the support article here on Microsoft's website.
    • https://uupdump.net/selectlang...7829-4524-978d-7b5fe79263e3
    • A McDonald's restaurant uses about 1.5 to 2 million gallons of water per year for operations like food preparation, cleaning, and restrooms. That is a lot less than the 2,083 gallons of water per megawatt hour mentioned above.
  • Recent Achievements

    • Week One Done
      Almohandis earned a badge
      Week One Done
    • Rookie
      dorf went up a rank
      Rookie
    • First Post
      mike_rumble earned a badge
      First Post
    • Dedicated
      tuben earned a badge
      Dedicated
    • Week One Done
      mnsgroup earned a badge
      Week One Done
  • Popular Contributors

    1. 1
      +primortal
      505
    2. 2
      +Edouard
      208
    3. 3
      PsYcHoKiLLa
      100
    4. 4
      Michael Scrip
      88
    5. 5
      neufuse
      71
  • Tell a friend

    Love Neowin? Tell a friend!