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Except for the simple joy of watching Joffery finally bite it, his death was really unsatisfying. Definitely not worthy of all the awful things he has done up to (and including) the wedding. I was hoping for something more brutal and direct. And the worst part is, they will probably play the mystery card for a while which is just frustrating.

 

Thats how its written in the books ...

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Thats how its written in the books ...

And? Just because it's taken directly from the books doesn't mean it wasn't unsatisfying.

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And? Just because it's taken directly from the books doesn't mean it wasn't unsatisfying.

 

You're right, but its pretty pointless to complain about. That event was written in 2000. Joffrey's death is less about it actually happening and more about what it sets in motion - the Purple Wedding is the beginning of the end of the saga where the Red Wedding was the end of the beginning.

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You're right, but its pretty pointless to complain about. That event was written in 2000. Joffrey's death is less about it actually happening and more about what it sets in motion - the Purple Wedding is the beginning of the end of the saga where the Red Wedding was the end of the beginning.

I haven't read the books, so I didn't know what was supposed to happen. Diverging from the source material isn't unheard of, but I get what you're saying. And I agree. His death has definitely messed up Tywin's plans, and it will probably have some major fallout. I was just really hoping for his means of death to have more "oomph".

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I haven't read the books, so I didn't know what was supposed to happen. Diverging from the source material isn't unheard of, but I get what you're saying. And I agree. His death has definitely messed up Tywin's plans, and it will probably have some major fallout. I was just really hoping for his means of death to have more "oomph".

 

The suspects for who did it aren't aren't really the 'stick 'em with the pointy end' type.

 

Out of curiosity, what part of CT?

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I have my guesses as to who did it, but I'm fairly certain it wasn't Tyrion. It was pretty obvious that he was framed. Honestly, my best guess is that Cersei did it. But as long as the show explains, without a doubt, who did it I'll be fine with whomever.

 

Out of curiosity, what part of CT?

Southington.

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I have my guesses as to who did it, but I'm fairly certain it wasn't Tyrion. It was pretty obvious that he was framed. Honestly, my best guess is that Cersei did it. But as long as the show explains, without a doubt, who did it I'll be fine with whomever.

 

Southington.

 

Cersei? Interesting theory. Not one I've really seen before. Although some things from the book that were made a big deal were barely even hinted at in the episode. Wonder what scenes hit the cutting room floor.

 

Ah, not far. I'll be working there tomorrow... My office is in Hamden, I'm from West Haven.

[Kalint]

I don't like how they artificially hyped up the feud between Joffery and Tyrion for this episode.  It was way too forced.

 

Tyrion has even slapped Joffery and nothing came of it.  

[CougarDan]

Other than Joffrey attempting to have him murdered by a Gold cloak during the battle of Blackwater (to name but one example)?

 

And the incident you're referring to was before Joffrey was King and had any real power with the only person who witnessed it being the Hound.

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Cersei? Interesting theory. Not one I've really seen before. Although some things from the book that were made a big deal were barely even hinted at in the episode. Wonder what scenes hit the cutting room floor.

 

Ah, not far. I'll be working there tomorrow... My office is in Hamden, I'm from West Haven.

NIce, it's good to meet a fellow Neowinian so close.

 

But as for Cersei, I think she doesn't want to give up her Queen Regent power. (made obvious by her actions in this episode) Maybe by killing Joffery before his marriage to Margaery was consumated, it means the marriage isn't valid. Which would mean Joffery's younger brother is now heir to the throne, leaving Cersei as Queen Regent until her other son is old enough to marry. But that's all based on the assumption of how marriage rules work in Westeros. I have no idea if that's how it works or not.  :rofl:

[RadishTM Veteran]

I wanted Joffrey to suffer so much more :pinch:

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But as for Cersei, I think she doesn't want to give up her Queen Regent power. (made obvious by her actions in this episode) Maybe by killing Joffery before his marriage to Margaery was consumated, it means the marriage isn't valid. Which would mean Joffery's younger brother is now heir to the throne, leaving Cersei as Queen Regent until her other son is old enough to marry. But that's all based on the assumption of how marriage rules work in Westeros. I have no idea if that's how it works or not.  :rofl:

 

Not a bad line of reasoning. #TryingToWalkAFineLine

[MorganX]

Fantastic episode.

I have my guesses as to who did it, but I'm fairly certain it wasn't Tyrion. It was pretty obvious that he was framed. Honestly, my best guess is that Cersei did it. But as long as the show explains, without a doubt, who did it I'll be fine with whomever.

 

Southington.

 

 

My money is on Sansa

when she gave Tyrion the cup.

[DPyro]

It was Margaery and her grandmother.

[MorganX]

It was Margaery and her grandmother.

That was my first thought, but then Margaery had no control over his antics with the goblet and no real opportunity. Tyrion had no way of knowing the little psychopath would decide to focus on him either. I figure Sansa has probably been walking around waiting on an opportunity.

[DPyro]

Actually it was the grandmother and little finger.

[jasondefaoite]

That was my first thought, but then Margaery had no control over his antics with the goblet and no real opportunity.

 

Suppose the poison could have been added to the cake rather than the wine.

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Spoiler tags please

[MorganX]

Suppose the poison could have been added to the cake rather than the wine.

 

He did comment about it being dry?

[grayscale]

The thing with the spoiler tags in this thread, at least right after a new episode aired, is that you have no idea if people are talking about the episode (Click it) or the books (Don't click it) :P

[Shiranui]

The death of a certain character this episode almost makes up for the killing off of my two favorite female characters in the last season.

I'm no literary snob, but though I am quite enjoying Game of Thrones, I could not imagine sitting down and actually reading it.

[Anibal P]

NIce, it's good to meet a fellow Neowinian so close.

 

But as for Cersei, I think she doesn't want to give up her Queen Regent power. (made obvious by her actions in this episode) Maybe by killing Joffery before his marriage to Margaery was consumated, it means the marriage isn't valid. Which would mean Joffery's younger brother is now heir to the throne, leaving Cersei as Queen Regent until her other son is old enough to marry. But that's all based on the assumption of how marriage rules work in Westeros. I have no idea if that's how it works or not.  :rofl:

 

Waterbury here

 

I still have the sneaking suspicion that either Cersei or Tywin did it, they were loosing control of Joffrey and we know Cersei has a thing against Margery, and seems hell bent on going against Dad and how better to do that then becoming the full queen once she's disposed of the "interloper" 

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He did comment about it being dry?

 

Exactly!

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I'm thinking that it could have been any of them, but I think my vote goes for Sansa, Joffrey has been really bad to her, killing Ned, Killing her Dire Wolf and then the rest.

 

I wouldn't be at all surprised if we find that it was Sansa, she usually sits at events rather quietly but she seemed to make a hell of a point of wanting to leave. Just thinking :)

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