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Dany flying away on Drogon next year. Such an iconic moment in the series and holy #### is it going to be great to visually experience.

 

I think you're going to have to wait another year for that scene.

The EW ones are awful quality at the moment :( I'll have a look around!

 

No worries. Just wondering.

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Why?

 

Seems perfect to end season 5 with it.

 

Because I don't think they will get that far. They will try not to catch up - even if it means spending an extra season.

 

This season (S4 - 2014) will be Book 3 and parts of 4. Next (S5 - 2015) will be 4 and parts of 5, the one after that (S6 - 2016) will be the rest of 5. Hopefully GRRM finishes Winds of Winter in 2015, and can get Dream of Spring done much faster. That leaves S7 in 2017 and S8 in 2018, which would give him 3 years to complete A Dream of Spring. 

 

It isn't really about what the show could do, I think they will also go slowly so they don't catch up. It also allows them to tell more of the story as well as give HBO more seasons of the show to air.

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Because I don't think they will get that far. They will try not to catch up - even if it means spending an extra season.

 

This season (S4 - 2014) will be Book 3 and parts of 4. Next (S5 - 2015) will be 4 and parts of 5, the one after that (S6 - 2016) will be the rest of 5. Hopefully GRRM finishes Winds of Winter in 2015, and can get Dream of Spring done much faster. That leaves S7 in 2017 and S8 in 2018, which would give him 3 years to complete A Dream of Spring. 

 

It isn't really about what the show could do, I think they will also go slowly so they don't catch up. It also allows them to tell more of the story as well as give HBO more seasons of the show to air.

Nope. The showrunners and producers have mentioned multiple times they won't be stretching the story or taking a break in order to give more time for the books.

And it makes sense, because there's no better way of making sure the show gets canned than

keeping Daenerys ######ing about in Meereen for more than two seasons, especially since the TV audience is already probably getting sick of waiting for her to reach Westeros. Not to mention Bran will soon be carrying Hodor.

Speaking of which, Drogon is roasting Hazzea this year, and they've even cast Hizdahr this year. That's book 5 material already. Bran, Brienne and Theon are all in book 4/5 material as well. So I'm 100% sure she's taking off on Drogon next year.

I'm also fairly certain season 6 will have plenty new material as well. Which means GRRM needs to have the book done by the end of this year, because they start writing season 6 as soon as season 5 wraps up production. And if he doesn't (and he most likely won't) the show will just take over the story. GRRM's problem, not mine.

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Right, they are pushing Dany's story because she doesn't do jack ###### for two books. 

Something to keep in mind is that B4 and B5 take place concurrently. So they are going to do the relative chapters of those books together. But I really don't think they will pass the books. People would be ###### and thats not what you want.

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Right, they are pushing Dany's story because she doesn't do jack #### for two books. 

Something to keep in mind is that B4 and B5 take place concurrently. So they are going to do the relative chapters of those books together. But I really don't think they will pass the books. People would be ###### and thats not what you want.

Who's going to be ######? The book readers are a relative minority in the overall audience of the show, and they already tend to bitch about every detail that's different from the books as it is, and it hasn't hurt the show at all. Don't get me wrong, I'd prefer the books first, but at this stage, I'm happy with anything that continues the story. In fact, I'm thrilled because I'm fairly certain the show could answer one semi-important character's fate this year.

The ball's in GRRM's court. The show doesn't lose anything if he doesn't pick the pace up, but GRRM and his book publisher have a lot more to risk, because let's face it, a lot of people are going to give up on the books once they pretty much become novelizations of a TV-show.

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Who's going to be ######? The book readers are a relative minority in the overall audience of the show, and they already tend to bitch about every detail that's different from the books as it is, and it hasn't hurt the show at all. Don't get me wrong, I'd prefer the books first, but at this stage, I'm happy with anything that continues the story. In fact, I'm thrilled because I'm fairly certain the show could answer one semi-important character's fate this year.

The ball's in GRRM's court. The show doesn't lose anything if he doesn't pick the pace up, but GRRM and his book publisher have a lot more to risk, because let's face it, a lot of people are going to give up on the books once they pretty much become novelizations of a TV-show.

 

Thats not true. They had sold 24 million copies of the books as of June 2013, so even if you divide that by 5 you get 4.8m per book, which, at the very worst, is basically in line with the per-episode live viewings. Even if you double that number for pirating/HBO GO/etc, the book readers are still 50% of the audience.

 

They can say all they want that they will pass him if they have to. I won't believe it until it happens.

I'm still more concerned about him dying before he finishes than anything else.

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Thats not true. They had sold 24 million copies of the books as of June 2013, so even if you divide that by 5 you get 4.8m per book, which, at the very worst, is basically in line with the per-episode live viewings. Even if you double that number for pirating/HBO GO/etc, the book readers are still 50% of the audience.

 

They can say all they want that they will pass him if they have to. I won't believe it until it happens.

I'm still more concerned about him dying before he finishes than anything else.

First, I think the numbers are way more in favor of TV audiences, because the ratio of book readers to show watchers at least from what I can tell in my surroundings is ridiculously in favor of show watchers. Second thing, how many of the book readers would actually care if the show took over the story? Most new book readers picked up the books because they were impatient to wait for the show to tell the story, and you mean to tell me those people will suddenly stop watching the show to stay loyal to the books? No way.

But I guess for at least a year we'll just have to wait and see. Maybe the majority of books is done and they're just being strategic about building hype, but I'm not optimistic about that. And even if he somehow manages to release TWOW in time, the chances of the last book getting out before the show is now practically nill.

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Season 4, Episode 1: Two Swords.

Running time: 58 minutes

Season 4, Episode 2: The Lion and the Rose.

Running time: 52 minutes

Season 4, Episode 3: Breaker of Chains.

Running time: 56 minutes

Season 4, Episode 4: Oathkeeper.

Running time: 54 minutes

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