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I started 10 last night also. My peeps are powerful enough to get through 10 with no grinding. So I'll go through that and get my growth egg (x2 cp) in Chp. 11 and then do some grinding then.

Already got Vanille's Malboro weapon up to Tier 2 lvl 17 so I got Improved Debuffing 2 with her. Time to start working on getting that death spell. :)

Haha! Good luck with the growth egg. I have my characters with 1 or 2 roles at lv 5, and the rest being worked on, I'm about 60 hours in the game now, already beat it, trying hard to get the growth egg, but keep getting dominated.

The "death" trick just does not work

for me :(

Haha! Good luck with the growth egg. I have my characters with 1 or 2 roles at lv 5, and the rest being worked on, I'm about 60 hours in the game now, already beat it, trying hard to get the growth egg, but keep getting dominated.

The "death" trick just does not work

for me :(

Ya I'm thinking I'll be extremely lucky to pull it off, but it would be nice to have it to do chapters 12/13 with.

Just did the first mission (5 star'd it) wondering what I should do next. Don't think I'm quite powerfully enough to CP grind any of the behemoth's. Anyone got any good ideas? I'm not weak, but trying to fight one early (got preemptive strike on him) and still needed to put out about 75k damage to kill him in one stagger. So I just need a good area for gil/CP.

Look back in this thread (sorry on my iPhone) but I posted a map of gran pulse, where you can get 6600 cp per battle, should only take you 60 seconds per battle at your level. I can beat them in 14 secs :) lol

Is there any benefit to teaching my characters roles they didn't start with, other than more interesting Paradigms? Any achievements etc? I tried it on Hope and it sucked up a HUGE amount of CP :(

On Chapter 10 now, the bit with the birds. I've found Lightning/Vanille/Snow best so far, it's how I beat Barthandelus.

I'm at Cid, looks like I'll need more farming.

Same. He just seems to one-shot me when he does his special in his second form.

I found Bartandalus a walk in the park though. He never brought me less than 50% hp. I bet my tactics are just wrong....

God dammit. :]

Just beat the last boss in chapter 11 i think.

Barthandelus. If i wasn't so overpowered i would have been destroyed because my tactics once again were a mess and i refused to use Fang again (why has it taken me so long to realise she is awesome). He just kept hitting me with those stupid laser things. I'm guessing i go back to cocoon now. So at the moment i have gone back to do some missions before i head off as my crystalium won't level up again till i complete the game. Quite funny because when it went to level 4, the amount of CP, i could max out all my chars three primary roles. So for fun i might do there three secondary roles.

Cid Raines was a bit of a pain. I would suggest making sure your party leader has some kind of deprotect resistance accessory because he'll use that in his second form and he'll do a move that would probably kill them. Have Fang to slow him down as well. Even have her in a sentinel and attract attention away for the other two to pummel him. You shouldn't need to grind. So long as you go in with the right tactics you should beat him.

Ya I know about that spot Andrew but I don't have quite enough STR to knock the black dog over during that first stagger. Was hoping somewhere a bit easier to begin with. Made up my on circuit last night, that was netting me about 7240 CP ever 4 minutes. It wasn't really efficient but I was able to kill everything in under 30 seconds.

PL, there is an achievement (all roles for each character level 5) and the other benefit is you can have more diverse paradigms.

And for those having trouble with Cid, this is what I did.

Lighting - Fang - Vanille

1. Com/Sen/Sab

2. Com/Sen/Med

3. Med/Sab/Sab

4. Com/Sen/Rav

I'd use 1 to original attack him. When I got low on health switched to 2 to heal up. Then I would normally go to 4 or 1 depending on whether or not he was debuffed. When he goes into guard mode, switched to 3 so they both can spam dispel on him and remove all his enchantments while I heal. The key for me was to always keep Fang as a Sen (with some +HP accessories she was fine) and just slowly take him down while keeping buffs on him. I think I also had a 5th paradigm with Vanille as Syn just to get haste/Vig, but I only did that once.

Is there any benefit to teaching my characters roles they didn't start with, other than more interesting Paradigms? Any achievements etc? I tried it on Hope and it sucked up a HUGE amount of CP :(

On Chapter 10 now, the bit with the birds. I've found Lightning/Vanille/Snow best so far, it's how I beat Barthandelus.

You're wasting CP right now.. that comes much, MUCH later. Always save your CP, even if you "max out their role", cause it goes up to Level 5, where each gem thing cost 60,000 CP. You might have just screwed yourself :p

Cid Raines was a bit of a pain. I would suggest making sure your party leader has some kind of deprotect resistance accessory because he'll use that in his second form and he'll do a move that would probably kill them. Have Fang to slow him down as well. Even have her in a sentinel and attract attention away for the other two to pummel him. You shouldn't need to grind. So long as you go in with the right tactics you should beat him.

I just can't seem to defeat Cid Raines. Ive tried every kind of setup but his constant barrage of attacks utterly destroy me.

Everything seems to be okay until he Metamorphasises. He will use his Seismic Wave attack (or whatever it's called), and then usually he will just use some ridiculous combo attack on one of my characters (usually the party leader..) which is an instant Game Over.

Last time I tried it he used Stop on my party, and it halted both my medics. I could not do a thing about it. I just sat and watched as he reduced everyone to death. :crazy:

I'm getting really, really annoyed at it. It's supposed to be quite an easy battle according to what people are saying but I'm finding it impossible.

I've tried going gung-ho, i've tried being uber defensive by debuffing him and buffing my party, still no dice.

Look back in this thread (sorry on my iPhone) but I posted a map of gran pulse, where you can get 6600 cp per battle, should only take you 60 seconds per battle at your level. I can beat them in 14 secs :) lol

Haha that's great, I went to grind there just before chapter 12, I thought killing them in 30-40 secs was impressive.

I just can't seem to defeat Cid Raines. Ive tried every kind of setup but his constant barrage of attacks utterly destroy me.

Everything seems to be okay until he Metamorphasises. He will use his Seismic Wave attack (or whatever it's called), and then usually he will just use some ridiculous combo attack on one of my characters (usually the party leader..) which is an instant Game Over.

Last time I tried it he used Stop on my party, and it halted both my medics. I could not do a thing about it. I just sat and watched as he reduced everyone to death. :crazy:

I'm getting really, really annoyed at it. It's supposed to be quite an easy battle according to what people are saying but I'm finding it impossible.

I've tried going gung-ho, i've tried being uber defensive by debuffing him and buffing my party, still no dice.

Hmm what classes are you using? If your having serious problems make sure you have a medic medic sentinel class, and as soon as he starts to power up for the attack that normally kills you, switch to combat clinic, when he stops go commando ravager ravager get him onto stagger and use commando commando ravager and if he starts getting you low again, switch back to combat clinic.

Pure, that was the worst part IMO

@james I had no problem with him at all when I used light, hope and fang. Just make sure u got a combat clinic class, MED, MED, SEN. A diversity class. COM, RAV, MED and when he's staggered a COM, COM, RAV, if you're ever low on hp make sure you switch to combat clinic immediately, you should be fine with that, using a SAB class would also be good, but some people don't like it too much since it takes quiet a bit of time to slow, deprotect, shell etc...

Am I near the end?

Hmm, 11 was by far the longest chapter you're probably 3/4 through it, 12 is not too long and 13 is super fast, so i'd say u got a couple of hours, oh and btw after chapter 11 you can't go back to pulse to train so you might wanna go back if you wanna grind a bit

Hmm, 11 was by far the longest chapter you're probably 3/4 through it, 12 is not too long and 13 is super fast, so i'd say u got a couple of hours, oh and btw after chapter 11 you can't go back to pulse to train so you might wanna go back if you wanna grind a bit

Ok I think we misunderstood each other :p I'm on chapter 10, in the Ark thingy.

This game has a lot of Japanese quirks that irritate me slightly :laugh: . Like the constant 'noises' being made by the characters, and the exaggerated motions like nodding with your whole damn neck, or making a fist when they wanna make a stand. ... and oother stuff :shiftyninja:

I got through Cid by throwing in a Sentinel. Battle took forever but I just wanted it to be done easily.

The many cut scenes that followed with Vanille narrating irritated me very very greatly. Expletives were thrown towards my tv and the skip button was hammered. :rofl: Got on Pulse in the end though. I'm enjoying it's vastness!

So ran and did the first 5 missions to do some objective killing and score some decent CP. Enough to allow me to run Lighting/Fang/Snow in a Tri-Disaster(Rav/Rav/Rav) paradigm to get the behemoth near the front of Chp. 11 to stagger then go into Cerebus (Com/Com/Com) and destroy him in 30 or less seconds. Finally some good CP that I can start to rake in. Though, I do need to find a Gil spot to help upgrade some weapons/accessories.

Moved on to Andrew's spot. It's about 10-20 seconds faster for me so yielding roughly the same CP. Doing this way getting 6600 CP every 50 seconds. The single behemoth, was netting me 8000 CP every 1 minute and 10-20 seconds (having to wait for him to turn).

Dunno how anyone else did it, but I'm simply getting all the 4000 CP nodes for my 3 major roles, then moving on to all the 6000 CP ones then once I get to the 8000 ones I'll focus on one role at a time.

This game has a lot of Japanese quirks that irritate me slightly :laugh: . Like the constant 'noises' being made by the characters, and the exaggerated motions like nodding with your whole damn neck, or making a fist when they wanna make a stand. ... and oother stuff :shiftyninja:

I got through Cid by throwing in a Sentinel. Battle took forever but I just wanted it to be done easily.

The many cut scenes that followed with Vanille narrating irritated me very very greatly. Expletives were thrown towards my tv and the skip button was hammered. :rofl: Got on Pulse in the end though. I'm enjoying it's vastness!

I did the Sentinel thing with him too, although yeah it did take forever. :laugh:

The steppe is the prettiest area in the game though, the scale of everything is just amazing. Reminded me of the Calm Lands from FFX for some reason.

Well I'm just 2 hours in and am completely lost. Have never played a FF before so this is all new to me. Rented for the week as I want to try since I don't plan to buy any new games until I decide for sure what console I'm getting for college. I thought I would hate this whole turn based thing but I am actually enjoying it. The 360 version looks nice but my friend said it looks even better on the PS3.

It's hardly better on the PS3, IMO.

You can go watch all the comparison videos you want, but it's only noticable if you actually look at stills...

Anyways, how are you lost? Make sure you read the tutorials and watch all the videos, or else you will be lost.

Just arrived on Pulse. My Xbox froze on the loading screen just before the save point after the Eidolon! Had to do it all again :/

It's hardly better on the PS3, IMO.

You can go watch all the comparison videos you want, but it's only noticable if you actually look at stills...

In-game I would agree with you, but I can't be the only one that thinks the videos look like ass. Similar colours blur together, there's this haze to everything...it was worst on the Gran Pulse intro where she's showing you all the "beautiful" wildlife and it just looked bad. In-game is fantastic, though. I'm playing at 720p over Component if that changes anything.

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The setup process is pretty straightforward, through a wizard, and in full below: TOS 7 Initialization As you can see, TOS 7 received a new coat of paint, and the initialization requires fewer interactions. Happily, TOS no longer decides to throw all disks into the same Storage Pool; 2.5-inch HDDs are allocated into Storage Pool 1. This is because two of the HDDs are allocated to hold system files. Previously (with TOS 5 and 6), if you pre-installed HDDs and SSDs, they were all placed into Storage Pool 1, even if you did not select the SSDs for inclusion during the onboarding. TOS 7 Setup On first boot, there is a tutorial and some steps to take to harden the TNAS (or not), which includes an immediate update from TOS 7.0.0616 to 7.0.0706, of which the changelog screenshot is also included in the above gallery. It must be noted that the Security Advisor still contains (in my opinion) a pretty major bug in that if you enable SPC and then do the required rebooting, the Security Advisor still says that SPC is disabled. TerraMaster provided the following statement about it: It is disappointing that TOS 7 has been in beta since December, and this OOBE issue is still there. Shutdown option has moved Instead of a Taskbar option to manage the NAS, all of these options have been moved to the Control Panel, initially I did not see it and my contact had to show me how to power off the F4-425 Pro. To logout, reboot or power off you can find those controls at the top right of the Control Panel. It is also possible to power off through the TNAS mobile app beta. Storage setup Above, you can see the steps I took to create the Storage Pools and Volumes. I made a second Storage Pool using TRAID on two 4TB MP44Q SSDs (which, in this instance, is similar to RAID 5), and finally, I added the 250GB 970 Evo Plus drive as Hyper Cache on Storage Pool 1 in Balanced mode. Registering If you decide not to lock down the F4-425 Pro in Security Isolation Mode (blocking all external connections), then you could set up a TNAS device ID through the Remote Access setting in the Control Panel (which must be unique). This works in combination with an online TerraMaster account. TOS 7 TNAS Online Creating a TerraMaster account and linking the device online activates the warranty when you provide proof of purchase and the serial number, but it also gives you access through the TNAS mobile app, which allows you to complete certain operationsб including powering off and restarting the NAS remotely. A TNAS mobile update is required to gain access through TOS 7, and this is provided on the TerraMaster website, as it is not yet on Google Play. The app is evolving all the time and has made leaps and bounds since I first started reviewing TerraMaster devices almost three years ago. It is not quite there yet if you are comparing the likes of Synology, which, sadly, a lot of users online do all the time. OpenClaw setup One of the main selling points of the new F4-425 Pro is the inclusion of OpenClaw, with TerraMaster claiming that it is "powered by the world's first AI-native TOS 7 OS, supporting local-first smart workflows and independent data control." However, I immediately ran into problems trying to enable OpenClaw. After waiting 20 minutes at the "Enabling" message of the OpenClaw app following installation, I decided to do some searching online and discovered that it couldn't complete the installation process due to SPC being enabled, which is something TOS 7 immediately recommends to be enabled on first boot. SPC for NAS (TOS 7) is basically the same principle as UAC in Windows; it blocks executables from being launched by non-Super Users. After reaching out to my contact about these issues, I received the following response: Anyway, this only became clear when I closed the OpenClaw app screen and clicked on the OpenClaw icon in the taskbar; that is when I saw the message about disabling SPC. I think, due to the fact that this is a requirement, this should be a prompt during the installation process, not when closing the App Market and then trying to launch OpenClaw. There's also no 'Getting started' guide for people like me who have never used OpenClaw. I tried to add an LLM and discovered the tutorial led nowhere. That's when I started looking around the official TerraMaster forums, and I found a guide that helpfully explains that you won't get anywhere with OpenClaw unless you have a paid plan, which is disappointing because I imagined there would be an option to use a local LLM as I do in SubtitleEdit with Whisper-XXL. In addition, with the marketing imagery on the official site, it says that the OpenClaw feature is "all processed 100% locally for absolute privacy." which led me to believe that I could install a local LLM, not one that required paid tokens. In any case, TerraMaster does not provide guidance for this new feature, which was also a selling point of the F4-425 Pro! My contact also provided clarification about the above points I raised with TerraMaster Since it is not in the scope of the review to add paid services, I'll leave that to the people who are more qualified with OpenClaw. F4-425 Pro Surveillance App TOS also comes with a Surveillance app, which is not installed by default; it can be found in the App Market recommended section. In addition, after installing, it doesn't drop a shortcut on the Desktop or top taskbar, but you can "Send to Desktop" from the App Market listing for the app for a quick way to open it. Adding my Reolink POE doorbell camera was painless. TerraMaster doesn't appear to have a repository of preconfigured cameras; instead, the camera must be added using ONVIF or RTSP. No mobile Surveillance app TerraMaster still doesn't have a dedicated Surveillance app, although from searching online, Surveillance can be used and managed through the TNAS mobile app. I tried this with the updated TNAS mobile app beta in combination with TOS 7 and got a message that Surveillance was "Only accessible through web browser," so I reckon this must be limited to the stable versions of TOS 6 and the mobile app. More quirks In addition, whenever I minimized the Live View window in the browser Surveillance app, the feed appeared to switch to the Low-bandwidth stream, and there was no way to get the High-quality stream back. To get the High-quality stream back, I had to close Live View and then reopen it. Benchmarking A pretty cool feature of the TOS 7 is that it allows you to install directly to the NVMe M.2 SSD. In order to do that, you would have to leave out any HDDs during initialization, and even then, the system partitions are always written to two HDDs when they are eventually added. With three NVMe slots, this also gives an interesting scenario where you could build a TRAID storage Pool for installing all your apps and Docker on, and keep the third for SSD cache on the HDD pool. Limitless options! SATA PCIe 3.0 X1 A CrystalDiskMark test on a mapped network drive from within a Windows 11 25H2 PC (image above) connected over a 5 GbE hub was well within acceptable ranges. Although the read result on SATA was a little less than with the F4-425 Plus, for some reason, while writes were generally better. SATA PCIe 3.0 X1 I also ran the NAS Performance tester, which tests the link speed performance. As you can see, it pretty much maxes out the 5GbE connection. Of course, you can also opt to bond the two 5 GbE connections for a bit more umph, but I didn't do that. TOS 7, which, as of testing, is still in Beta, comes with an App Center that has a bunch of handy programs you can install right off the bat, such as Emby, Plex, Docker, as well as in-house Backup and Surveillance solutions. As you can imagine, any media streaming services you would want to host off the F4-425 Pro will work great, thanks to the Intel Core N350 CPU and its 16 GB of DDR5 memory. Accessing from mobile is only possible if Security Isolation Mode is disabled, which can put your NAS at risk from external sources, so there was no way to access it from the TNAS Mobile app. It's also quiet. I had this sat next to my computer on my work desk for the past week, and I did wonder if the noise I was accustomed to with NAS devices would annoy me, but all I could hear was a soft whirring of the rear fan (which was a little annoying) when the disks were not actively copying or reading data. Conclusion So what have I learned? Unfortunately, this release raises a few important questions and concerns that I feel haven't been adequately addressed. What I didn't like Our variant shipped with TOS 7 beta, and it's advised not to use it in a production environment. I feel that's a bit limiting on an $800 device. The mobile app is also still in beta and does not support some of the first-party apps, like Surveillance, and it still has quite a few bugs. I am a bit confused about the OpenClaw marketing along with the F4-425 Pro. I feel like that if it's going to be a main selling point, then offer official guidance on how to get started with it. TerraMaster recommends enabling SPC, but then markets the NAS for use with OpenClaw, which requires disabling SPC to be able to use it, opening up genuine security concerns for the NAS; and that's before you get into the security concerns of OpenClaw itself. Of course, the above issues won't be a problem if you decide to install something else on it, or even go back to the stable TOS 6. I wish TerraMaster had just given TOS 7 as opt-in rather than shipping with it. TOS 7 has been available as a preview since December 2025 (so well before my last TerraMaster review), and according to a thread on Reddit where a user shared a screenshot from the TerraMaster Facebook page, it is scheduled to launch today, June 23, but there's nothing about that in the TerraMaster news blog. My contact confirmed over email that TOS 7 exits beta today. The rubber feet also deserve a mention as they continue to be a problem, with them coming unstuck the moment you shift the F4-425 Pro anywhere on your desk. What I liked What it comes down to, though, aside from what I already mentioned, you are still getting a quality, affordable device here, so recommending it will depend on the individual's use case. If you're just looking for a relatively small NAS device to manage virtual machines on, backup your files, and take care of your home theater streaming, then it is a great device that will certainly futureproof you for some time. It provides good performance, takes up little space, and is, on the whole, very quiet. Four bays afford proper redundancy using TRAID or RAID 5, and you can even expand on storage capacity by adding the 2-bay D5, or 4-bay D8 Hybrid DAS over a USB 3.2 (10Gbps) link. Considering the 2024 releases were more about power, with the likes of an Intel Core i5-1235U high-end laptop CPU under the hood, I asked my contact last time if we could expect more of the same in higher-end models and was told: It makes a lot of sense to use Intel's N350 chip inside a NAS; it is more than capable of doing what the F4-425 Pro is intended for, media streaming and backup. The only downside is still the clear lack of community and even staff support on the official forums. In the past, I have had topics go unanswered for days, or there would be generic-type "we've noted this and passed it onto our developer team" type responses. Along with the other things I mentioned, it all ends up costing it a couple of points. If you are comfortable with the command line, Docker, and setting up TrueNAS or Unraid, you'll be fine. You can do great things with this hardware. In TOS, the apps are a bit lacking, and things don't always work as expected.\ AI NAS?! What has become clear to me this year is that we are going to start seeing all kinds of "AI NAS" come to market, and while that might be good for us consumers, be diligent and research these claims. Although the F4-425 Pro technically comes with AI, it is really using a cloud service that is externally sourced off-device through the third party OpenClaw app. My colleague did review a newcomer to the NAS space earlier this year, and it includes a local AI assistant inside the Zettlab D4 NAS, and they do not even use AI in the product name, check out Chris' review here. Where to buy and a discount coupon However, it does not change the fact that this is truly a great entry-level home media-class NAS that you can buy right now. TerraMaster is having a 20% off launch discount, plus you can also still apply our unique 10% off coupon on checkout, which only works on the official website. So here is a breakdown of the pricing that is only valid on the official TerraMaster website. TerraMaster F4-425 Pro (N350) + 20% discount + 10% coupon = $575.99 TerraMaster F4-425 Pro (N305) + 20% discount + 10% coupon = $503.99 TerraMaster F4-425 Pro (N350) + 20% discount + 10% coupon = £525.59 TerraMaster F4-425 Pro (N305) + 20% discount + 10% coupon = £460.79 Use NEOWIN coupon code during checkout for 10% discount Over on Amazon US and UK, the F4-425 Pro also gets a 20% launch discount, but here, the above 10% coupon cannot be applied. TerraMaster F4-425 Pro (N350) for $639.99 at Amazon US (was $799.99) TerraMaster F4-425 Pro (N305) for $559.99 at Amazon US (was $699.99) TerraMaster F4-425 Pro (N350) for £583.99 at Amazon UK (was £729.99) TerraMaster F4-425 Pro (N305) for £511.99 at Amazon UK (was £639.99) As an Amazon Associate, when you purchase through links on our site, we earn from qualifying purchases.
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