official Battlefield: Bad Company 2

[gkl]

Why? The only thing I can think of is disorientation.

[Spookie]

Remove invulnerablity, include a cool down on being rezzed and headshots or direct explosives means you can't be rezzed.

Job done. :D

[gkl]

Hell no to explosives though. Do you really want everybody to go CG full time?

[Singh400]

Why? The only thing I can think of is disorientation.

From the POV of the person being revived it isn't fair. Yes I realise that you think this is unbalanced, but overall revive protection is needed.

[Spookie]

Hell no to explosives though. Do you really want everybody to go CG full time?

Direct explosives :p

[gkl]

Direct explosives :p

What do you mean by that? C4? Grenades? :/

@Singh400

Ya, I get your point. Maybe lower the length of invincibility?

[Singh400]

@Singh400

Ya, I get your point. Maybe lower the length of invincibility?

Maybe, but I was thinking maybe reduce the range of the paddles. I always rez people through walls, that needs to be fixed. And the burnout period/cool down needs to be increased ever so slightly. For example, a recently revived medic, shouldn't be able to whip out his paddles straight away and revive someone else. Because that would bypass the cooldown. No they need to be unavailable for around 2.5-3.0 seconds.

[trag3dy]

From the POV of the person being revived it isn't fair. Yes I realise that you think this is unbalanced, but overall revive protection is needed.

Uh huh.... revive protection is awesome:

http://www.own3d.tv/.../29337/lol_fin1

And that's basically what every rush game turns into. If I had my wish the medic class would be removed entirely.

[LingeringSoul]

And that's basically what every rush game turns into. If I had my wish the medic class would be removed entirely.

I would probably stop short of that and just remove the chest paddles. Let them have their Medkits and their LMGs (however overpowered the latter may be right now), but I honestly wouldn't shed a single tear if the chest paddles were removed from the game entirely. If nothing else, it might make people play with a little more caution and strategy.

[gkl]

Keep in mind that playing "with a little more caution and strategy" might result in useless camping. ;)

[Singh400]

Uh huh.... revive protection is awesome:

http://www.own3d.tv/.../29337/lol_fin1

And that's basically what every rush game turns into. If I had my wish the medic class would be removed entirely.

Revive protection is needed, yes I agree that video was awful to watch. But if they implemented my solution of the paddles being unavailable to use (for the person being revived) for around 2.5-3.0 seconds after being revived. This would be in addition to slightly extending the cooldown period for normal paddle usage.

[Yusuf M. Veteran]

When I play, I come across players that run right by you when you're dead. What makes it even worse is those players are in your squad. It doesn't take much to look at the map for the dead symbol, whip out your defibrillator, and revive someone.

Anyway, I recently used the NEOSTEAD 2000 Combat shotgun and wow... it's insane at medium-to-close range (with magnum ammo).

[trag3dy]

Revive protection is needed, yes I agree that video was awful to watch. But if they implemented my solution of the paddles being unavailable to use (for the person being revived) for around 2.5-3.0 seconds after being revived. This would be in addition to slightly extending the cooldown period for normal paddle usage.

I disagree completely, revive invulnerability needs to go. And they need to increase the recharge time on the paddles. And they need to give us an option to decline revives. I would also like to see them make it so if you headshot some one they can't be revived.

And Onslaught for the pc is official I guess:

http://www.pcgamer.com/2010/07/13/bad-company-2-onslaught-coming-to-pc/

I won't be buying it though. If I want to play against mindless AI I'll just play the single player. I can save myself $10 or however much it was on the consoles.

[DirtyLarry Veteran]

Two things...

1. I think I need to play this game again on PC. It has been a long, long time since I have.
2. This is honestly one of the longest running threads I can recall in the Gamers Hangout in a long, long time. Really the last game I recall having a thread continue to stay on the page 1 and get so many pages of hits was either Gears Of War II or Halo 3. So even though this thread has more or less turned into a complaint thread now about what everyone does not like about the game, I think the longevity of this thread is indeed a testament to how good of a game BFBC2 is, all things considering. At least IMHO.

[Yusuf M. Veteran]

Agreed, DirtyLarry.

PS: Yay for Onslaught coming to PC.

[trag3dy]

Don't get me wrong, I like the game well enough. :laugh:

It's just some the things that DICE does with the game that make you question their intelligence.

And for the lolz..

http://encyclopediad...:_Bad_Company_2

Horrible grammar in that though.

[Singh400]

I disagree completely, revive invulnerability needs to go.

Noooo, it needs to stay.

And they need to increase the recharge time on the paddles.

Agreed, but only by slightly.

And they need to give us an option to decline revives.

Agreed, need a "tap out" feature.

I would also like to see them make it so if you headshot some one they can't be revived.

Meh, disagree. If I blow some one up, then they shouldn't be able to be revived. Which I think is how it currently works. With the hit boxes being messed up as they are now, everyone is scoring head shots. That's not right, it should take skill to get a head shot, not luck. They would need to redo hit boxes if they were to implement that.

Don't get me wrong, I like the game well enough. :laugh:

It's alright for a bit of mindless fun, I quickly get bored now though :(

It's just some the things that DICE does with the game that make you question their intelligence.

It is all down to one guy who is in charge of weapon balancing.

And for the lolz..

http://encyclopediad...:_Bad_Company_2

AHHHAAA lol! :rofl:

[sambrentnall]

+1 for having the option to not be revived, I only seem to get picked up when I dont wont to be!

Also, have Dice released any information about BF:BC2 Vietnam?

[LingeringSoul]

This is honestly one of the longest running threads I can recall in the Gamers Hangout in a long, long time. Really the last game I recall having a thread continue to stay on the page 1 and get so many pages of hits was either Gears Of War II or Halo 3. So even though this thread has more or less turned into a complaint thread now about what everyone does not like about the game, I think the longevity of this thread is indeed a testament to how good of a game BFBC2 is, all things considering. At least IMHO.

I've definitely been complaining about this game a lot lately (in this thread and others), but at the end of the day, I can't deny that I got some major enjoyment out of it. The time I spent playing BC2 (and it wasn't an enormous amount of time... perhaps thirty hours) probably kept me sane a few months back when I was unemployed and generally going through a rough patch. It's a good game despite its issues (and DICE's inability to fix said issues), and I definitely have to give you +1 (a hypothetical +1 since there's no rep system anymore ;)) for bringing things back down to Earth for me.

As for the Medic, the ability to decline revives would be really nice. Similar to what Wolfenstein: Enemy Territory did, where one button kills you permanently and takes you back to the respawn screen. It seems like the kind of addition that wouldn't be controversial at all, since it's not like you have to use it. Never understood why the game didn't have this feature on day one.

[DirtyLarry Veteran]

I've definitely been complaining about this game a lot lately (in this thread and others), but at the end of the day, I can't deny that I got some major enjoyment out of it. The time I spent playing BC2 (and it wasn't an enormous amount of time... perhaps thirty hours) probably kept me sane a few months back when I was unemployed and generally going through a rough patch. It's a good game despite its issues (and DICE's inability to fix said issues), and I definitely have to give you +1 (a hypothetical +1 since there's no rep system anymore ;)) for bringing things back down to Earth for me.

Not a problem. (Y) I am glad I could put things in perspective, even if it is a very small perspective.

And FTR, I did not mean to say everyone complaining was a bad thing, the fact people were still complaining was to me one of the testaments. Most other games that people had as many complaints as they did for this game, people would have just simply moved on. And if I kept playing it, I would be right here complaining with you guys. They have dropped the ball big time on this game, at least the PC version, and it really is upsetting. I am still waiting on a true spiritual successor to BF2.

[Green_Eye]

Not a problem. (Y) I am glad I could put things in perspective, even if it is a very small perspective.

And FTR, I did not mean to say everyone complaining was a bad thing, the fact people were still complaining was to me one of the testaments. Most other games that people had as many complaints as they did for this game, people would have just simply moved on. And if I kept playing it, I would be right here complaining with you guys. They have dropped the ball big time on this game, at least the PC version, and it really is upsetting. I am still waiting on a true spiritual successor to BF2.

Amen Brother! (Y)

[Explore]

I had a good game yesterday on the Xbox. I went 41-8 with the Medic.

[trag3dy]

It's always my luck that when I'm doing good and have good team mates the other team decides to turn to cheese to counter how good we are doing. I hate medics and engineers. Since day one the thing that has annoyed me most about this game is getting shot by some one I was completely unaware of by a CG. And then in the death came it shows them 20 feet away from where I died. That **** pushes my buttons. :angry:

[gkl]

So basically you don't like dying. What else is new? :p

As long as it's not cheating and is in the game, whatever helps you to win is acceptable. Not that I'm a fan of CQC CG of course, that is just silly "tactics". :D

[trag3dy]

It's not the dieing that bothers me, it's that people are so inept at the game that they have to resort to using the CG to kill some one who isn't even aware they are there from 20 feet away that bothers me.

If I get within 20 feet of some one and they aren't aware of me at the very least they're going to get pistol killed or 40mm shot gunned to the back of the head if not knifed.