1 year old happy meal

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lol yeh, the amount of preservatives in there is crazy.

Shows how many chemicals they put on their stuff....

Having looked at the ingredients list on many a McDonalds product over the years here in Europe, I've see nothing unusual or noteworthy there. Could you two provide the ingredient in, say, a US cheeseburger? Here it contains over here:

100% beef, salt, pepper for the patty. Flour, water, sugar, rapeseed oil, salt, soy flour, yeast, calcium carbonate, diacetyl tartaric acid ester of monoglyceride (emulsifier), sesame seeds and ascorbic acid for the buns.

Then there's plain old pickles, onions, ketchup, mustard (won't bother with the ingredients in those), and processed cheddar cheese (cheddar, water, butter, whey powder, milk protein, natural cheese aroma, trisodium citrate, diphosphates, polyphosphates (emulsifying salts), salt, sorbic acid, coloring (carotene, paprika)).

The fries are just potatoes, with dextrose added if the sugar level is low (depends on season) and disodium pyrophosphate to prevent oxidation.

I mean to me this is pretty tame compared to other things on the market? Is it really that different in the US? Personally I think it's more down to sterile products and packaging. If something is not contaminated and is stored in a paper bag, I am thinking it will simply dry out. I've had plenty of bread in paper bags that have just dried out instead of going moldy. In fact, I think that's more common in my experience.

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The fries are just potatoes, with dextrose added if the sugar level is low (depends on season) and disodium pyrophosphate to prevent oxidation.

The thing is, they aren't. They have flour added to the outside to make a crispy outer...

McD ingredients list is missing a few things.

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Having looked at the ingredients list on many a McDonalds product over the years here in Europe, I've see nothing unusual or noteworthy there. Could you two provide the ingredient in, say, a US cheeseburger? Here it contains over here:

100% beef, salt, pepper for the patty. Flour, water, sugar, rapeseed oil, salt, soy flour, yeast, calcium carbonate, diacetyl tartaric acid ester of monoglyceride (emulsifier), sesame seeds and ascorbic acid for the buns.

Then there's plain old pickles, onions, ketchup, mustard (won't bother with the ingredients in those), and processed cheddar cheese (cheddar, water, butter, whey powder, milk protein, natural cheese aroma, trisodium citrate, diphosphates, polyphosphates (emulsifying salts), salt, sorbic acid, coloring (carotene, paprika)).

The fries are just potatoes, with dextrose added if the sugar level is low (depends on season) and disodium pyrophosphate to prevent oxidation.

I mean to me this is pretty tame compared to other things on the market? Is it really that different in the US? Personally I think it's more down to sterile products and packaging. If something is not contaminated and is stored in a paper bag, I am thinking it will simply dry out. I've had plenty of bread in paper bags that have just dried out instead of going moldy. In fact, I think that's more common in my experience.

HAha i don't care what they say is in their food... if it looks like that after a year there is something not right in them there meals :p

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The thing is, they aren't. They have flour added to the outside to make a crispy outer...

No, they do not here. The natural sugar is what makes them brown and crisp, and is why they have to artificially add it sometimes. If you want to claim otherwise, you have to provide credible evidence. Remember that food ingredients do differ from market to market, even when it comes to international chains like McDonalds, so I am not saying that you are necessarily wrong if you are talking about the US. That's why I asked if anyone knew what they contained in the US.

McD ingredients list is missing a few things.

No, the list is complete. Again though, this is something that varies from market to market. Some countries have very strict labeling requirements, while others have none.

HAha i don't care what they say is in their food... if it looks like that after a year there is something not right in them there meals :p

Well, like I said, my experience is that food that had no notable contamination and was stored under the right conditions (such as bread and potatoes in paper, it's no coincidence that they are normally sold in paper) will just go dry. I've had plenty of dry bread, but very little mold. I know it's true for cheese, it just goes dry as well. I've never tried it with cooked beef, but I wouldn't be surprised if the result was the same.

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Thought this might fit in this topic but don't judge me... i've just been lazy :p

I was just cleaning out my room (where i have lived for three weeks now) when i discovered a plate of chips i made a few days after moving in (just potato chipped and fried) and after three weeks they where black and green and looked like they could have won in a fight with the cat!

What i'm trying to say is this is what happens to 'normal' food!

I know some people will say pics or it didn't happen but i was too busy gagging to think about photos :p

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While your anecdote is cute, it's still a fact that food can dry out just fine under the right conditions. It's also true that no one has yet provided me with these magical ingredients they're supposed to contain. In the UK and most of Europe, the fries contain exactly what I said, unless you want to suggest a big conspiracy to cover up the True Ingredients. I'll be waiting for the evidence.

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From McDonalds website...

Potatoes, vegetable oil (canola oil, hydrogenated soybean oil, natural beef flavor [wheat and milk derivatives]*, citric acid [preservative]), dextrose, sodium acid pyrophosphate (maintain color), salt. Prepared in vegetable oil ((may contain one of the following: Canola oil, corn oil, soybean oil, hydrogenated soybean oil with TBHQ and citric acid added to preserve freshness), dimethylpolysiloxane added as an antifoaming agent).

CONTAINS: WHEAT AND MILK *(Natural beef flavor contains hydrolyzed wheat and hydrolyzed milk as starting ingredients).

What's really worrying is the lack of information on the natural beef flavouring....

I'll be honest with you i didn't find this myself it was on google somewhere, i was unable to find any info on any of the Mcdonalds websites about their food at all!

The reason i don't eat McD's is not because it looks like that after a year or from some stupid moral high ground it's purely because it makes me feel ill!

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From McDonalds website...

Which is pretty much as I said. The beef flavoring is not used in the UK (in fact, it's even certified vegetarian) and most of Europe. Presumably your list is from the US. Still, it shows that there's nothing interesting in them. No magic ingredients.

I'll be honest with you i didn't find this myself it was on google somewhere, i was unable to find any info on any of the Mcdonalds websites about their food at all!

You can find the UK ingredients here (click the yellow down arrow): http://www.mcdonalds.co.uk/food/nutrition/our-ingredients.mcd?menu_item=5079#dl

I'm not a huge McDonald's fan, but really, their food is pretty tame in comparison to most other fast food, and probably even half of the stuff in your average fridge.

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Thought this might fit in this topic but don't judge me... i've just been lazy :p

I was just cleaning out my room (where i have lived for three weeks now) when i discovered a plate of chips i made a few days after moving in (just potato chipped and fried) and after three weeks they where black and green and looked like they could have won in a fight with the cat!

What i'm trying to say is this is what happens to 'normal' food!

I know some people will say pics or it didn't happen but i was too busy gagging to think about photos :p

I did this when i went away on holiday last year. I had steak and chips night before and left the plate on my desk with about 2-3 chips and a bit of steak left. I woke up late the next morning and was running late for my train so i didn't have time to clean up... Needless to say my room didn't smell too wonderful a week and half afterward...

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i won't eat their food for the fact everytime i do i end up getting the runs. Never had that problem with anywhere else. but i've noticed that too with the not spoiling but, they will grow mold eventually.

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Sorry, but I simply don't believe you. Where is your evidence? Are you claiming that McDonalds UK lies?

Like what you believe matters!

I worked in McDonalds? True

I handled the fries? True

The felt like normal sliced potato? False

Proof? I don't need to prove a damned thing. I know the above is 100% true, and I feel no compulsion to justify my words to an argumentative person online.

And they lie? Well I know that their staff do yes. About a number of things from HR issues, through to global wage issues (again from personal experience). Why am I to believe that the higher up you go it gets any better?

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I worked in McDonalds? True

I handled the fries? True

The felt like normal sliced potato? False

They are "normal sliced potatoes" that have been fried at the plant. I can find no evidence to suggest otherwise. None at all. You don't want to provide it because you know it doesn't exist. Your claim is completely and utterly without any value and belongs in the conspiracy forum.

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You don't want to provide it because you know it doesn't exist. Your claim is completely and utterly without any value and belongs in the conspiracy forum.

Ah but now the onus is on you to prove it, seeing as it's my memory from my mouth. You are now accusing me of lying - so now you need to provide proof... See how it works?

And as such, you are slandering me personally and directly on an open forum...

You don't want to provide it because you know it doesn't exist.

Yes, I am 100% sure that such proof doesn't exist. Now you want proof I worked at McD? Sure I have my pay slips from 12+ years ago or whatever. You want proof I handled the fries? Well, um, I am sure the branch still has all their CCTV... Sure!

All I know is, these bags of "potatoes" (I will agree that they are at their core - potato) felt greasy, smelled odd, and basically not like a chipped potato feels at home!

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MikeChipshop Member

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And as such, you are slandering me personally and directly on an open forum...

Calm down mate, nothing here is against you personally.

I started this thread believing McD's messed with the fries but after a days searching i have found no evidence and if they where going out of their way to hide it they'd be breaking some pretty serious laws.

i won't eat their food for the fact everytime i do i end up getting the runs. Never had that problem with anywhere else.

Join the club (or not but you know what i mean ;))

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Ah but now the onus is on you to prove it, seeing as it's my memory from my mouth.

I have already provided it. Your "memory" that you didn't think they "felt like normal potatoes" is without value. It means nothing.

You are now accusing me of lying

Not at all. I think you really do believe it, which means it isn't a lie. It's wrong, but it's not a lie.

And as such, you are slandering me personally and directly on an open forum...

No, this is not slander (nor libel.)

Yes, I am 100% sure that such proof doesn't exist. Now you want proof I worked at McD? Sure I have my pay slips from 12+ years ago or whatever.

No, I do not want proof that you worked at McDonald's. I believe you.

You want proof I handled the fries? Well, um, I am sure the branch still has all their CCTV... Sure!

No, I do not want proof that you "handled the fries." I want proof that they contain anything other than what I have already listed.

All I know is, these bags of "potatoes" (I will agree that they are at their core - potato) felt greasy, smelled odd, and basically not like a chipped potato feels at home!

Does this surprise you, considering that they have been blanched and par-fried at the factory and are not raw potatoes?

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