revanmj Posted March 18, 2010 Share Posted March 18, 2010 Microsoft informed on a Windows 7 blog that they removed hardware virtualization support requirement from its Windows Virtual PC software. Of course if it is available, software will take advantage of the technology but it will be able to work without it. New version will be available to download later today. Read more on Windows 7 blog. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/884636-hardware-virtualization-no-longer-required-by-windows-virtual-pc/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fraud OS 11 Posted March 18, 2010 Share Posted March 18, 2010 Absolutely delighted when I read this as I have some PCs that don't have hardware assisted virtualization but run Windows 7 just fine. Finally, they saw sense. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/884636-hardware-virtualization-no-longer-required-by-windows-virtual-pc/#findComment-592364972 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Timan Veteran Posted March 18, 2010 Veteran Share Posted March 18, 2010 Nice, means I can finally run the thing on my Mac Pro. Believe the EFi stuff was messing it up. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/884636-hardware-virtualization-no-longer-required-by-windows-virtual-pc/#findComment-592365010 Share on other sites More sharing options...
protocol7 Posted March 18, 2010 Share Posted March 18, 2010 Nice! Seemed a strange requirement to add to a product as established as VPC at the last minute. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/884636-hardware-virtualization-no-longer-required-by-windows-virtual-pc/#findComment-592365028 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buendia Posted March 18, 2010 Share Posted March 18, 2010 Nice. I finally can try it :) Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/884636-hardware-virtualization-no-longer-required-by-windows-virtual-pc/#findComment-592365044 Share on other sites More sharing options...
carmatic Posted March 18, 2010 Share Posted March 18, 2010 nice now that hardware virtualization is no longer needed, what is the minimum requirements for xp mode? is it just the same as the editions of windows 7 with Aero enabled? Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/884636-hardware-virtualization-no-longer-required-by-windows-virtual-pc/#findComment-592365054 Share on other sites More sharing options...
azure.sapphire Posted March 18, 2010 Share Posted March 18, 2010 XP mode still requires virtualization, it is only the application (Virtual PC) that has reduce the requirement. As for a Mac, if you have a Mac Book Pro and Windows 7 Pro, you can run XP mode. A Google search should get some pretty good results. I think this is an ok guide:<br /><br /><a href='http://servergrrl.spaces.live.com/blog/cns!6A418D5155651D56!251.entry' class='bbc_url' title='External link' rel='nofollow external'>http://servergrrl.sp...51D56!251.entry</a> Sorry, main guide is here: (/edit) http://servergrrl.spaces.live.com/blog/cns!6A418D5155651D56!197.entry Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/884636-hardware-virtualization-no-longer-required-by-windows-virtual-pc/#findComment-592365084 Share on other sites More sharing options...
carmatic Posted March 19, 2010 Share Posted March 19, 2010 Sorry, main guide is here: (/edit) http://servergrrl.sp...51D56!197.entry umm that's just installing windows 7 on a macbook pro...? Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/884636-hardware-virtualization-no-longer-required-by-windows-virtual-pc/#findComment-592366268 Share on other sites More sharing options...
nullie Posted March 19, 2010 Share Posted March 19, 2010 Does it support 64-bit Guest Operating systems yet? Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/884636-hardware-virtualization-no-longer-required-by-windows-virtual-pc/#findComment-592366410 Share on other sites More sharing options...
TokiToki Posted March 19, 2010 Share Posted March 19, 2010 XP mode still requires virtualization, it is only the application (Virtual PC) that has reduce the requirement. You obviously didn't read. Windows XP Mode will no longer require hardware virtualization technology to run. in big fat bold print. :p Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/884636-hardware-virtualization-no-longer-required-by-windows-virtual-pc/#findComment-592366434 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raa Posted March 19, 2010 Share Posted March 19, 2010 YES!!!! This is brilliant news for a few of my customers, and probably for schools too!! (Y) (Y) Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/884636-hardware-virtualization-no-longer-required-by-windows-virtual-pc/#findComment-592366460 Share on other sites More sharing options...
boogerjones Posted March 19, 2010 Share Posted March 19, 2010 Good stuff. Hopefully XP Mode is a sign that Microsoft is developing an operating system that doesn't have to meet any compatibility requirements. It would simplify development drastically. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/884636-hardware-virtualization-no-longer-required-by-windows-virtual-pc/#findComment-592366494 Share on other sites More sharing options...
kaffra Posted March 19, 2010 Share Posted March 19, 2010 great news. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/884636-hardware-virtualization-no-longer-required-by-windows-virtual-pc/#findComment-592366564 Share on other sites More sharing options...
marc2003 Posted March 19, 2010 Share Posted March 19, 2010 why do people even use this? it absolutely sucks compared to the alternatives. vmware and virtualbox are far superior products. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/884636-hardware-virtualization-no-longer-required-by-windows-virtual-pc/#findComment-592366714 Share on other sites More sharing options...
bolix Posted March 19, 2010 Share Posted March 19, 2010 why do people even use this? it absolutely sucks compared to the alternatives. vmware and virtualbox are far superior products. Hmm...it's free, it's integrated, don't have to buy licence of Windows XP? Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/884636-hardware-virtualization-no-longer-required-by-windows-virtual-pc/#findComment-592366742 Share on other sites More sharing options...
farmeunit Posted March 19, 2010 Share Posted March 19, 2010 why do people even use this? it absolutely sucks compared to the alternatives. vmware and virtualbox are far superior products. I think it's supposed to be completely seamless when running apps for XP, and ease of install. I haven't used, so I can't speak from experience. You can do seamless mode in the others of course, but by default it's not exactly seamless. Mainly ease of use for people not experienced with either VMWare or Virtualbox. BTW, thanks to the OP for the news. I hadn't heard that, but it's good to know. I've always been kind of miffed and upset about the whole thing. Working in a school environment, I would want this feature so I wouldn't have to teach everyone using Win7 how to use VM software to run some of our legacy apps. Thankfully most stuff is going web-based, but we can't always afford to purchase new software or subscriptions to services and this would make it a lot easier to deploy and run software. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/884636-hardware-virtualization-no-longer-required-by-windows-virtual-pc/#findComment-592366752 Share on other sites More sharing options...
marc2003 Posted March 19, 2010 Share Posted March 19, 2010 Hmm...it's free, it's integrated, don't have to buy licence of Windows XP? oops. i didn't read the article but instead believed this..... XP mode still requires virtualization, it is only the application (Virtual PC) that has reduce the requirement. shame on me. :rofl: Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/884636-hardware-virtualization-no-longer-required-by-windows-virtual-pc/#findComment-592366764 Share on other sites More sharing options...
ilev Posted March 19, 2010 Share Posted March 19, 2010 why do people even use this? it absolutely sucks compared to the alternatives. vmware and virtualbox are far superior products. +1 Virtual PC has a sever security risk and it is advised not to use the app until Microsoft fix the problem (which is known for 7 months) Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/884636-hardware-virtualization-no-longer-required-by-windows-virtual-pc/#findComment-592368730 Share on other sites More sharing options...
azure.sapphire Posted March 20, 2010 Share Posted March 20, 2010 oops. i didn't read the article but instead believed this..... shame on me.??:rofl: According to the article it still does, according to Microsoft it does not. You should be able to run XP mode without virtualization. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/884636-hardware-virtualization-no-longer-required-by-windows-virtual-pc/#findComment-592370584 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest xiphi Posted March 20, 2010 Share Posted March 20, 2010 +1 Virtual PC has a sever security risk and it is advised not to use the app until Microsoft fix the problem (which is known for 7 months) Thought it didn't effect Windows Virtual PC? Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/884636-hardware-virtualization-no-longer-required-by-windows-virtual-pc/#findComment-592371094 Share on other sites More sharing options...
ilev Posted March 20, 2010 Share Posted March 20, 2010 Thought it didn't effect Windows Virtual PC? https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/884384-virtual-pc-flaw-lets-hackers-bypass-dep-safeseh-aslr/page__p__592361218__hl__virtual__fromsearch__1entry592361218 Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/884636-hardware-virtualization-no-longer-required-by-windows-virtual-pc/#findComment-592371240 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colin-uk Veteran Posted March 20, 2010 Veteran Share Posted March 20, 2010 its not an exploit if you need access to the physical machine. :p this is good news though, i can try xp mode now :) Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/884636-hardware-virtualization-no-longer-required-by-windows-virtual-pc/#findComment-592371246 Share on other sites More sharing options...
hdood Posted March 20, 2010 Share Posted March 20, 2010 its not an exploit if you need access to the physical machine. :p Anything that gives the running code rights it wouldn't normally have (privilege escalation) is a serious vulnerability. The risk of it being exploited here is probably slim, which is why Microsoft doesn't care. If this vulnerability was in a hypervisor used on servers, it would be very serious. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/884636-hardware-virtualization-no-longer-required-by-windows-virtual-pc/#findComment-592371280 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Salty Wagyu Posted March 20, 2010 Share Posted March 20, 2010 why do people even use this? it absolutely sucks compared to the alternatives. vmware and virtualbox are far superior products. Seems fine for me, the menus etc in XP Mode are insanely instant and very snappy to use, even more so than my main OS running the virtual PC. Couldn't ask for better, must be the hardware virtualization. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/884636-hardware-virtualization-no-longer-required-by-windows-virtual-pc/#findComment-592371528 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colin-uk Veteran Posted March 20, 2010 Veteran Share Posted March 20, 2010 Anything that gives the running code rights it wouldn't normally have (privilege escalation) is a serious vulnerability. having physical access to the machine can do that too. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/884636-hardware-virtualization-no-longer-required-by-windows-virtual-pc/#findComment-592371542 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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