Growled Member Posted March 21, 2010 Member Share Posted March 21, 2010 To be honest I hate 10.04. Whoever came up with this design and color scheme is just an idiot. I will most definitely be using either Kubuntu or Lubuntu, if I use any of them. They better not have change the buttons on KDE. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/884976-ubuntu-1004-beta-1-released/page/2/#findComment-592373870 Share on other sites More sharing options...
kinghat Posted March 21, 2010 Share Posted March 21, 2010 i remember installing linux back in high school 8+ years ago.... looks the same... Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/884976-ubuntu-1004-beta-1-released/page/2/#findComment-592373902 Share on other sites More sharing options...
I am Reid Posted March 21, 2010 Share Posted March 21, 2010 what the hell is the point of moving the min/max buttons? Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/884976-ubuntu-1004-beta-1-released/page/2/#findComment-592374184 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quillz Posted March 21, 2010 Share Posted March 21, 2010 what the hell is the point of moving the min/max buttons? Just emulating their location on the Mac OS X windows, I suppose. It's nothing more than personal preference. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/884976-ubuntu-1004-beta-1-released/page/2/#findComment-592374196 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sputnik.RU Posted March 21, 2010 Share Posted March 21, 2010 Just emulating their location on the Mac OS X windows, I suppose. It's nothing more than personal preference. In my opinion it's lame and they should move them back to the right for default installations. Also the dark GTK+ themes cause too much incompatibilities with programs like Firefox, OpenOffice.org and Skype, a nice and polished light theme would be preferred I think... Oh well... Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/884976-ubuntu-1004-beta-1-released/page/2/#findComment-592374582 Share on other sites More sharing options...
gertin Posted March 21, 2010 Share Posted March 21, 2010 In my opinion it's lame and they should move them back to the right for default installations. Also the dark GTK+ themes cause too much incompatibilities with programs like Firefox, OpenOffice.org and Skype, a nice and polished light theme would be preferred I think... Oh well... QFT. The real problem with dark GTK+ themes is that certain applications look horrible. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/884976-ubuntu-1004-beta-1-released/page/2/#findComment-592374788 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kreuger Posted March 21, 2010 Share Posted March 21, 2010 The most annoying thing with Linux is the crappy flash support. I can't even see flash on youtube with my netbook. Windows works flawless on it.Hope this will be fixed sooner rather than later (come on Adobe). Flash was fine for a while but the last few versions have been problematic for me as well.In my opinion it's lame and they should move them back to the right for default installations. Also the dark GTK+ themes cause too much incompatibilities with programs like Firefox, OpenOffice.org and Skype, a nice and polished light theme would be preferred I think... Oh well... QFT. The real problem with dark GTK+ themes is that certain applications look horrible. I use one from Linux Mint called Aurora-Midnight which you can get here. It's definitely the best one I've come across so far. It integrates well into Firefox (see here) but not OpenOffice (which is actually OO's fault) or Skype. I dont really use them much so its no big deal for me. It was great to find one that works with Firefox though.By the way, only the default theme uses the reversed buttons as mine are normal. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/884976-ubuntu-1004-beta-1-released/page/2/#findComment-592374822 Share on other sites More sharing options...
thealexweb Posted March 21, 2010 Share Posted March 21, 2010 Any chance of them putting Pidgin and Thunderbird back in? I don't like Evolution Mail or that Empathy. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/884976-ubuntu-1004-beta-1-released/page/2/#findComment-592374832 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sputnik.RU Posted March 21, 2010 Share Posted March 21, 2010 QFT. The real problem with dark GTK+ themes is that certain applications look horrible. I use one from Linux Mint called Aurora-Midnight which you can get here. It's definitely the best one I've come across so far. It integrates well into Firefox (see here) but not OpenOffice (which is actually OO's fault) or Skype. I dont really use them much so its no big deal for me. It was great to find one that works with Firefox though. Problem is that OpenOffice.org and Skype are very important applications for most Ubuntu users. They should pick a GTK+ theme that can be used without any problem or incompatibility with any problem, even if the problem itself lays in the programs itself. Any chance of them putting Pidgin and Thunderbird back in? I don't like Evolution Mail or that Empathy. Thunderbird never has been in Ubuntu by default as far I can remember, however you can install manually. I won't expect Pidgin to come in by default again, but installing manually is just a few clicks. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/884976-ubuntu-1004-beta-1-released/page/2/#findComment-592374890 Share on other sites More sharing options...
alfaaqua Posted March 21, 2010 Share Posted March 21, 2010 The most annoying thing with Linux is the crappy flash support. ? Flash works great on Ubuntu. i remember installing linux back in high school 8+ years ago.... looks the same... So true.......Ubuntu was first officially released in 2004 and it is now 2010. Yet you used linux 8 years ago and it looks the same.... See where you failed :p Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/884976-ubuntu-1004-beta-1-released/page/2/#findComment-592375140 Share on other sites More sharing options...
brentaal Posted March 21, 2010 Author Share Posted March 21, 2010 So true.......Ubuntu was first officially released in 2004 and it is now 2010. Yet you used linux 8 years ago and it looks the same....See where you failed :p 2002 (kde) http://www.dataswamp.net/colin/2002-07-15-gentoo-linux-kde3_desktop.png 2004 (gnome) http://www.actsofvolition.com/images/screenshots/gnome-desktop-dec2004.png Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/884976-ubuntu-1004-beta-1-released/page/2/#findComment-592375158 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gocom Posted March 21, 2010 Share Posted March 21, 2010 So true.......Ubuntu was first officially released in 2004 and it is now 2010. Yet you used linux 8 years ago and it looks the same.... See where you failed :p Heh, but Ubuntu isn't all that is Linux and Gnome was released 1999. He probably means the look, just the look of gnome desktop. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/884976-ubuntu-1004-beta-1-released/page/2/#findComment-592375162 Share on other sites More sharing options...
dmb219 Posted March 21, 2010 Share Posted March 21, 2010 I've installed Ubuntu a couple times, always the 32 bit version. Anyone have any trouble with the 64 bit installation? Is it as smooth as a 64 bit Windows migration? Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/884976-ubuntu-1004-beta-1-released/page/2/#findComment-592375228 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lechio Posted March 21, 2010 Share Posted March 21, 2010 i remember installing linux back in high school 8+ years ago.... looks the same... It hardly looks the same, the Linux desktop experienced a lot of innovations and changes since those times, specially KDE which has seen a complete redesign with the release of KDE 4. 2002 (kde) http://www.dataswamp.net/colin/2002-07-15-gentoo-linux-kde3_desktop.png 2004 (gnome) http://www.actsofvolition.com/images/screenshots/gnome-desktop-dec2004.png Eww those look horrific. Still keep a few screenshots of my desktops from those times: http://kde-look.org/CONTENT/content-pre1/8608-1.jpg (2003 KDE) http://lechio.deviantart.com/art/Black-K-9425408 (2004 KDE) http://fc08.deviantart.net/fs5/i/2005/134/4/4/E17_desktop_by_lechio.jpg (2004 E17) http://fc01.deviantart.net/fs6/i/2005/021/b/e/XFCE_4_2_by_lechio.jpg (2005 XFCE) http://kde-look.org/CONTENT/content-pre3/102077-3.jpg (Current KDE) Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/884976-ubuntu-1004-beta-1-released/page/2/#findComment-592375470 Share on other sites More sharing options...
DJD Posted March 21, 2010 Share Posted March 21, 2010 In my opinion it's lame and they should move them back to the right for default installations. Also the dark GTK+ themes cause too much incompatibilities with programs like Firefox, OpenOffice.org and Skype, a nice and polished light theme would be preferred I think... Oh well... You clearly haven't even used Ubuntu 10.04, the only elements that are dark are: the panel, the menus and the window borders. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/884976-ubuntu-1004-beta-1-released/page/2/#findComment-592375548 Share on other sites More sharing options...
(Spork) Posted March 21, 2010 Share Posted March 21, 2010 what a simple way to slap this on a usb drive ? Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/884976-ubuntu-1004-beta-1-released/page/2/#findComment-592375564 Share on other sites More sharing options...
ViperAFK Posted March 21, 2010 Share Posted March 21, 2010 what a simple way to slap this on a usb drive ? unetbootin http://unetbootin.sourceforge.net/ Extremely easy. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/884976-ubuntu-1004-beta-1-released/page/2/#findComment-592375578 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Syanide Posted March 21, 2010 Share Posted March 21, 2010 I lolled: Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/884976-ubuntu-1004-beta-1-released/page/2/#findComment-592375678 Share on other sites More sharing options...
x-byte Posted March 21, 2010 Share Posted March 21, 2010 ? Flash works great on Ubuntu.? By great you mean barely? On my netbook running flash in fullscreen doesn't work. Choppy as hell. Running in the default windows also isn't especially good either at times. Works perfect on Windows. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/884976-ubuntu-1004-beta-1-released/page/2/#findComment-592375972 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sputnik.RU Posted March 21, 2010 Share Posted March 21, 2010 You clearly haven't even used Ubuntu 10.04, the only elements that are dark are: the panel, the menus and the window borders. I had a brief look. As far I noticed the dark Ubuntu 10.04 theme had issues with Firefox' Awesomebar and OpenOffice.org/Skype menus. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/884976-ubuntu-1004-beta-1-released/page/2/#findComment-592376022 Share on other sites More sharing options...
DJD Posted March 21, 2010 Share Posted March 21, 2010 I had a brief look. As far I noticed the dark Ubuntu 10.04 theme had issues with Firefox' Awesomebar and OpenOffice.org/Skype menus. Ok define issues because i have been using Ubuntu 10.04 since alpha 2 on a daily basis and never noticed anything wrong with the menus in the dark theme. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/884976-ubuntu-1004-beta-1-released/page/2/#findComment-592376048 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Syanide Posted March 21, 2010 Share Posted March 21, 2010 By great you mean barely? On my netbook running flash in fullscreen doesn't work. Choppy as hell. Running in the default windows also isn't especially good either at times. Works perfect on Windows. It differs. I used to get sluggish performance on 9.04, but I haven't had any issues on 9.10. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/884976-ubuntu-1004-beta-1-released/page/2/#findComment-592376066 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sputnik.RU Posted March 21, 2010 Share Posted March 21, 2010 Ok define issues because i have been using Ubuntu 10.04 since alpha 2 on a daily basis and never noticed anything wrong with the menus in the dark theme. I remember two specific issues: Text in the Firefox awesomebar is black (instead of white) on (dark) gray; Text in the OpenOffice.org toolbar is black (instead of white) on (dark) gray. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/884976-ubuntu-1004-beta-1-released/page/2/#findComment-592376212 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Growled Member Posted March 21, 2010 Member Share Posted March 21, 2010 I remember two specific issues: Text in the Firefox awesomebar is black (instead of white) on (dark) gray; Text in the OpenOffice.org toolbar is black (instead of white) on (dark) gray. Sometimes issues like this can be caused by a bad burn, especially if no one else is experiencing it. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/884976-ubuntu-1004-beta-1-released/page/2/#findComment-592376578 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kreuger Posted March 22, 2010 Share Posted March 22, 2010 Problem is that OpenOffice.org and Skype are very important applications for most Ubuntu users. They should pick a GTK+ theme that can be used without any problem or incompatibility with any problem, even if the problem itself lays in the programs itself. Maybe OO but definitely not Skype. Their userbase is rather small across all OSes, that I know of. The problem is OO is java and that doesn't adhere to GTK. Why Skype is ignored is beyond me.I remember two specific issues: Check out the theme I posted. I know its not OO but at least it's Firefox. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/884976-ubuntu-1004-beta-1-released/page/2/#findComment-592377032 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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