Ubuntu 10.04 Beta 1 released

[Growled Member]

To be honest I hate 10.04. Whoever came up with this design and color scheme is just an idiot. I will most definitely be using either Kubuntu or Lubuntu, if I use any of them. They better not have change the buttons on KDE.

[kinghat]

i remember installing linux back in high school 8+ years ago.... looks the same...

[I am Reid]

what the hell is the point of moving the min/max buttons?

[Quillz]

what the hell is the point of moving the min/max buttons?

Just emulating their location on the Mac OS X windows, I suppose. It's nothing more than personal preference.

[Sputnik.RU]

Just emulating their location on the Mac OS X windows, I suppose. It's nothing more than personal preference.

In my opinion it's lame and they should move them back to the right for default installations. Also the dark GTK+ themes cause too much incompatibilities with programs like Firefox, OpenOffice.org and Skype, a nice and polished light theme would be preferred I think... Oh well...

[gertin]

In my opinion it's lame and they should move them back to the right for default installations. Also the dark GTK+ themes cause too much incompatibilities with programs like Firefox, OpenOffice.org and Skype, a nice and polished light theme would be preferred I think... Oh well...

QFT. The real problem with dark GTK+ themes is that certain applications look horrible.

[Kreuger]

The most annoying thing with Linux is the crappy flash support. I can't even see flash on youtube with my netbook. Windows works flawless on it.Hope this will be fixed sooner rather than later (come on Adobe).

Flash was fine for a while but the last few versions have been problematic for me as well.

In my opinion it's lame and they should move them back to the right for default installations. Also the dark GTK+ themes cause too much incompatibilities with programs like Firefox, OpenOffice.org and Skype, a nice and polished light theme would be preferred I think... Oh well...

QFT. The real problem with dark GTK+ themes is that certain applications look horrible.

I use one from Linux Mint called Aurora-Midnight which you can get here. It's definitely the best one I've come across so far. It integrates well into Firefox (see here) but not OpenOffice (which is actually OO's fault) or Skype. I dont really use them much so its no big deal for me. It was great to find one that works with Firefox though.

By the way, only the default theme uses the reversed buttons as mine are normal.

[thealexweb]

Any chance of them putting Pidgin and Thunderbird back in? I don't like Evolution Mail or that Empathy.

[Sputnik.RU]

QFT. The real problem with dark GTK+ themes is that certain applications look horrible.

I use one from Linux Mint called Aurora-Midnight which you can get here. It's definitely the best one I've come across so far. It integrates well into Firefox (see here) but not OpenOffice (which is actually OO's fault) or Skype. I dont really use them much so its no big deal for me. It was great to find one that works with Firefox though.

Problem is that OpenOffice.org and Skype are very important applications for most Ubuntu users. They should pick a GTK+ theme that can be used without any problem or incompatibility with any problem, even if the problem itself lays in the programs itself.

Any chance of them putting Pidgin and Thunderbird back in? I don't like Evolution Mail or that Empathy.

Thunderbird never has been in Ubuntu by default as far I can remember, however you can install manually. I won't expect Pidgin to come in by default again, but installing manually is just a few clicks.

[alfaaqua]

The most annoying thing with Linux is the crappy flash support.

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Flash works great on Ubuntu.

i remember installing linux back in high school 8+ years ago.... looks the same...

So true.......Ubuntu was first officially released in 2004 and it is now 2010. Yet you used linux 8 years ago and it looks the same....

See where you failed :p

[brentaal]

So true.......Ubuntu was first officially released in 2004 and it is now 2010. Yet you used linux 8 years ago and it looks the same....

See where you failed :p

2002 (kde)

http://www.dataswamp.net/colin/2002-07-15-gentoo-linux-kde3_desktop.png

2004 (gnome)

http://www.actsofvolition.com/images/screenshots/gnome-desktop-dec2004.png

[Gocom]

So true.......Ubuntu was first officially released in 2004 and it is now 2010. Yet you used linux 8 years ago and it looks the same....

See where you failed :p

Heh, but Ubuntu isn't all that is Linux and Gnome was released 1999. He probably means the look, just the look of gnome desktop.

[dmb219]

I've installed Ubuntu a couple times, always the 32 bit version. Anyone have any trouble with the 64 bit installation? Is it as smooth as a 64 bit Windows migration?

[Lechio]

i remember installing linux back in high school 8+ years ago.... looks the same...

It hardly looks the same, the Linux desktop experienced a lot of innovations and changes since those times, specially KDE which has seen a complete redesign with the release of KDE 4.

2002 (kde)

http://www.dataswamp.net/colin/2002-07-15-gentoo-linux-kde3_desktop.png

2004 (gnome)

http://www.actsofvolition.com/images/screenshots/gnome-desktop-dec2004.png

Eww those look horrific. Still keep a few screenshots of my desktops from those times:

http://kde-look.org/CONTENT/content-pre1/8608-1.jpg (2003 KDE)

http://lechio.deviantart.com/art/Black-K-9425408 (2004 KDE)

http://fc08.deviantart.net/fs5/i/2005/134/4/4/E17_desktop_by_lechio.jpg (2004 E17)

http://fc01.deviantart.net/fs6/i/2005/021/b/e/XFCE_4_2_by_lechio.jpg (2005 XFCE)

http://kde-look.org/CONTENT/content-pre3/102077-3.jpg (Current KDE)

[DJD]

In my opinion it's lame and they should move them back to the right for default installations. Also the dark GTK+ themes cause too much incompatibilities with programs like Firefox, OpenOffice.org and Skype, a nice and polished light theme would be preferred I think... Oh well...

You clearly haven't even used Ubuntu 10.04, the only elements that are dark are: the panel, the menus and the window borders.

[(Spork)]

what a simple way to slap this on a usb drive ?

[ViperAFK]

what a simple way to slap this on a usb drive ?

unetbootin

http://unetbootin.sourceforge.net/

Extremely easy.

[Syanide]

I lolled:

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Flash works great on Ubuntu.?

By great you mean barely? On my netbook running flash in fullscreen doesn't work. Choppy as hell. Running in the default windows also isn't especially good either at times. Works perfect on Windows.

[Sputnik.RU]

You clearly haven't even used Ubuntu 10.04, the only elements that are dark are: the panel, the menus and the window borders.

I had a brief look. As far I noticed the dark Ubuntu 10.04 theme had issues with Firefox' Awesomebar and OpenOffice.org/Skype menus.

[DJD]

I had a brief look. As far I noticed the dark Ubuntu 10.04 theme had issues with Firefox' Awesomebar and OpenOffice.org/Skype menus.

Ok define issues because i have been using Ubuntu 10.04 since alpha 2 on a daily basis and never noticed anything wrong with the menus in the dark theme.

[Syanide]

By great you mean barely? On my netbook running flash in fullscreen doesn't work. Choppy as hell. Running in the default windows also isn't especially good either at times. Works perfect on Windows.

It differs. I used to get sluggish performance on 9.04, but I haven't had any issues on 9.10.

[Sputnik.RU]

Ok define issues because i have been using Ubuntu 10.04 since alpha 2 on a daily basis and never noticed anything wrong with the menus in the dark theme.

I remember two specific issues:

1. Text in the Firefox awesomebar is black (instead of white) on (dark) gray;
   
2. Text in the OpenOffice.org toolbar is black (instead of white) on (dark) gray.
   

[Growled Member]

I remember two specific issues:

1. Text in the Firefox awesomebar is black (instead of white) on (dark) gray;
   
2. Text in the OpenOffice.org toolbar is black (instead of white) on (dark) gray.
   

Sometimes issues like this can be caused by a bad burn, especially if no one else is experiencing it.

[Kreuger]

Problem is that OpenOffice.org and Skype are very important applications for most Ubuntu users. They should pick a GTK+ theme that can be used without any problem or incompatibility with any problem, even if the problem itself lays in the programs itself.

Maybe OO but definitely not Skype. Their userbase is rather small across all OSes, that I know of. The problem is OO is java and that doesn't adhere to GTK. Why Skype is ignored is beyond me.

I remember two specific issues:

Check out the theme I posted. I know its not OO but at least it's Firefox.