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Thanks for the tip.

Here it is - Link

The last paragraph is interesting:

Apple told Watchdog the following:

"If an iPhone has been damaged by liquid, the service or replacement is not covered by the Apple one year limited warranty or an AppleCare Protection Plan (APP). It would be eligible for Out Of Warranty Service. Currently, if a customer takes their iPhone to an Apple Retail Store, the warranty will only be void due to liquid damage if all indicators have been triggered.

You should try and use that agaisnt the store, and HTC.

Just found out that if your iPhone is genuinely water damaged, Apple will replace it for a refurb for £139 - Fantastic service IMO, mention that as a last resort (As it might imply that you have damaged it yourself).

I did consider it but every Windows Mobile OS has been a massive disappointment and I'm thinking 7 will just be another contender with its own problems rather

than something revolutionary.

So, Android for me (Y)

I need to do some more reading on android, because to be fair I pretty much know squat about it.

I just hope its more 'open/flexible' than Apples iPhone OS.

I need to do some more reading on android, because to be fair I pretty much know squat about it.

I just hope its more 'open/flexible' than Apples iPhone OS.

Oh, Android have been laughing at iOS for a long time now - It basically has everything iOS lacked, like multi-tasking for an example. It's only with iOS 4 they are

bringing it up to a competitive standard again and somehow, it's still lacking. Plus, Android feels like an OS that is constantly being developed and improved - Like the update

from 2.1 to 2.2 ( Froyo ) brings a massive speed update ( Up to 400% ) and various other features, so it feels like an actual update.

So, iOS still lacks from Apple's incompetence and very closed ways, Windows Mobile OS suffers from Microsoft's incompetence in coding and Android

is the only mobile OS I feel comfortable using; fast, feature-rich and the development of it seems to done by people who care about the OS.

At the moment, Android and especially the HTC range of phones are the talk of the town and there's a reason why the Desire is sold out left and right.

Don't hesitate man, if you're planning on upgrading anytime soon, Android, HTC and especially the Desire is the way to go (Y)

Oh, Android have been laughing at iOS for a long time now - It basically has everything iOS lacked, like multi-tasking for an example. It's only with iOS 4 they are

bringing it up to a competitive standard again and somehow, it's still lacking. Plus, Android feels like an OS that is constantly being developed and improved - Like the update

from 2.1 to 2.2 ( Froyo ) brings a massive speed update ( Up to 400% ) and various other features, so it feels like an actual update.

So, iOS still lacks from Apple's incompetence and very closed ways, Windows Mobile OS suffers from Microsoft's incompetence in coding and Android

is the only mobile OS I feel comfortable using; fast, feature-rich and the development of it seems to done by people who care about the OS.

At the moment, Android and especially the HTC range of phones are the talk of the town and there's a reason why the Desire is sold out left and right.

Don't hesitate man, if you're planning on upgrading anytime soon, Android, HTC and especially the Desire is the way to go (Y)

Yeah I'm fed up having to jailbreak my iPhone every update just to install applications (most decent ones cost money) to add basic **** Apple don't.

I have no idea why Apple have to gimp their software/OS when they already take pride in gimping all of their hardware ranges in comparison to competitors.

I definitely will be changing phone this year so thanks for the advice.

I've been waiting SIX WEEKS for my Desire from Orange (ordered the Black). I'm taking the fact that the Orange website is staying in stock longer and longer as a good sign that they are getting more delivered than are going out immediately.

Still, six weeks is a long time...and I'm starting to get disillusioned. I know that will pass, as I still get that child-like feeling of glee when I think about what it will be like to open the packaging when it does arrive.

I would certainly get on to them, I've got the Black Desire from Orange, I ordered it last 2 weeks ago and it arrived 5 days later after some phone calls to Orange chasing up stock and my delivery. They got stock in on the Tuesday following the last Bank Holiday and then shipped it on the Thursday for me.

I would certainly get on to them, I've got the Black Desire from Orange, I ordered it last 2 weeks ago and it arrived 5 days later after some phone calls to Orange chasing up stock and my delivery. They got stock in on the Tuesday following the last Bank Holiday and then shipped it on the Thursday for me.

Did you order yours as a new phone or an upgrade? I've gone for mine as an upgrade so they might be treating me as a low priority. If you got yours as an upgrade, then I'm going to have a very nice conversation with them tomorrow.

Do you switch phones very often? You just got the Desire and you already plan on getting the iPhone 4?

Umm, He does say that his bro loves the Desire, he is getting himself an iPhone.

Do you switch phones very often? You just got the Desire and you already plan on getting the iPhone 4?

LOL, no, as The Guardian said.

I always planned to get one or the other. If my bro liked the Desire, he could keep it and I would get the iPhone 4. If he didn't, I would get the Desire and he the iPhone 4.

Did you order yours as a new phone or an upgrade? I've gone for mine as an upgrade so they might be treating me as a low priority. If you got yours as an upgrade, then I'm going to have a very nice conversation with them tomorrow.

I was a new customer, but really I don't see that it should matter, if anything as a long standing customer you would hope you would get priority.

well mine just arrived this morning.

Compared to a HTC HERO;

its wider, making it a bit uncomfortable to hold as phone.

its thinner, the screen is bigger.

Its faster than the hero, less laggy, much better for texting as the keyboard doesnt lag as much, still not as good as the iphone keyboard.

Havent used all the features yet.

The camera is faster, however it sticks out, and i fear more prone to getting scratched.

The trackpad thing is nice, however if you hover over it, it tends to go left or right, so i can use unintentional useage problems arising.

Otherwise its a good phone, the screen is nice, but nothing amazing if you ask me, maybe im just getting old and less impressed with things in general :s

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