brentaal Posted April 27, 2010 Share Posted April 27, 2010 Why Linux (Still) Sucks. (And What We Can Do To Fix It). http://lunduke.com/?p=1075 redvamp128 1 Share Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zinomian Posted April 27, 2010 Share Posted April 27, 2010 Easy fixes to make linux the best os in the market.. 1. Drivers...Drivers...Drivers. 2. Add/Remove programs. I am pretty decent when it comes to installing software on linux, but my mother isnt, and she shouldnt have to be a computer geek so that she can install her favorite game from the internet on her pc (nor is grandma or dad). 3. Drivers...drivers...Drivers. 4. Sound....freaks...just pick one and stick with it!!!!!!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frylock86 Posted April 27, 2010 Share Posted April 27, 2010 Linux still sucks for a number of reasons: Lack of quality Lack of integration Lack of mainstream game support Linux Jihadists Too many distros Lack of mainstream acceptance/support Andrew Lyle and MightyJordan 2 Share Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iamwhoiam Posted April 27, 2010 Share Posted April 27, 2010 IMO, the biggest thing that can be done to help linux improve is to get rid of the asshat zealots on *nix support forums. I've seen some pretty bad and vulgar responses towards people for asking simple questions. Electric Jolt 1 Share Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Panacik Posted April 27, 2010 Share Posted April 27, 2010 I read through the powerpoint presentation. It makes a lot of good points to be honest. One can only hope that people listen and do something to make the needed changes in the way Linux distros are currently being developed. Dont get me wrong, i love the way the way that Linux has come along further in the last few years than i have ever seen it, but more is still needed in order to get it adopted by more users and become as popular as Apple. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dysphoria Posted April 27, 2010 Share Posted April 27, 2010 Wow, what a post..... "Linux sucks" it's an opinion of some Windows/MacOs X users, who've never worked with anything but one OS. Most of the new distros have exactly what you are complaining about. I would suggest that you get out of your nutshell and try something new, or if you already have found what you are looking for than you shouldnt make any empty/uneducated posts. Why are people rude on some of those Unix forums is because they get most of the time noobs who are not willing to learn but rather prefer to complain about how Linux sucks, and with that attitude you wont get far anywhere... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
n_K Posted April 27, 2010 Share Posted April 27, 2010 Yeh I agree with those points. RPM, Deb, TarGZ, etc. Rediculous, just one format and a source tarGZ is needed. Alsa and OSS = pain in the arse, pulseaudio = good but pain in the arse to get working, and hell I didn't know that many audio frameworks existed! Definately only need one. Etc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Knife Party Posted April 27, 2010 Share Posted April 27, 2010 :huh: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
REM2000 Posted April 27, 2010 Share Posted April 27, 2010 IMO, the biggest thing that can be done to help linux improve is to get rid of the asshat zealots on *nix support forums. I've seen some pretty bad and vulgar responses towards people for asking simple questions. Funny enough ive seen the same exact people on windows forums and mac forums. All platforms have their trolls. The very open nature of linux and oss software is why the software will continue to develop and mature. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tiagosilva29 Posted April 27, 2010 Share Posted April 27, 2010 ****, video is in Flash... Linux Jihadists Freedomfighters are OK! Fixed that for you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ahhell Posted April 27, 2010 Share Posted April 27, 2010 Linux is a victim of it's own openness. You can't be the "industry standard" when everyone is doing their own thing. iamwhoiam 1 Share Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
08993 Posted April 27, 2010 Share Posted April 27, 2010 This is ridiculous, why an old man? It should be a naked woman, and all of the blocks should be the same colour and be the same size. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Syanide Posted April 27, 2010 Share Posted April 27, 2010 What I agreed on: Audio stack(s) suck(s). Audio editing software sucks. As the author mentioned, video editing sucked as well, but the progress has been amazing in the last year. Also, if Steam comes to Linux, I already see the games "problem" having begun to be resolved. I'm kind of in the gray area with packaging. Maybe it's because I use Ubuntu, so I rarely have any problems finding a deb package, but I don't see this as much of a problem. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sanctified Veteran Posted April 27, 2010 Veteran Share Posted April 27, 2010 Wow, what a post..... "Linux sucks" it's an opinion of some Windows/MacOs X users, who've never worked with anything but one OS. Most of the new distros have exactly what you are complaining about. I would suggest that you get out of your nutshell and try something new, or if you already have found what you are looking for than you shouldnt make any empty/uneducated posts. Why are people rude on some of those Unix forums is because they get most of the time noobs who are not willing to learn but rather prefer to complain about how Linux sucks, and with that attitude you wont get far anywhere... You lost all credibility using that word. Also, you talked about attitude... ;) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Audioboxer Subscriber² Posted April 27, 2010 Subscriber² Share Posted April 27, 2010 Linux is now hugely popular, it doesn't need fixed, all the gamers with PS3s love it :rofl: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sanctified Veteran Posted April 27, 2010 Veteran Share Posted April 27, 2010 Funny enough ive seen the same exact people on windows forums and mac forums. All platforms have their trolls. And all of them should just dissapear. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Decryptor Veteran Posted April 27, 2010 Veteran Share Posted April 27, 2010 I've got to agree on the sound part, it's getting better (It's mainly ALSA/Pulse Audio), but there are still a bunch of apps that use OSS/ARTS/ESD/etc. (at least you can wrap most around ALSA) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
justmike Posted April 27, 2010 Share Posted April 27, 2010 Linux is a victim of it's own openness. You can't be the "industry standard" when everyone is doing their own thing. Exactly! +1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xtrabit racing Posted April 27, 2010 Share Posted April 27, 2010 Linux is a victim of it's own openness. You can't be the "industry standard" when everyone is doing their own thing. this is what the video guy said and, true! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bjoswald Posted April 27, 2010 Share Posted April 27, 2010 The problem with Linux is simple: Even after all the innovations and refreshments over the last 20 years, it's still a hobbyist OS for tinkerers and nerds. Game developers won't bother developing for it because they'd lose more money trying to get Linux off life support than just continuing what they've got. In other words, "if it ain't broke, don't fix it". Also, for corporate environments, it would probably cost businesses a ton of money to train users to use Linux, instead of sticking with the tried and true XP. XP may be outdated and insecure, but everybody knows how to use it and volume licenses are cheap enough these days. Other complaints: 1. Unnecessary audio stacks 2. Ugly GUI 3. No games support (WINE doesn't count) 4. Driver support is still terrible 5. Steep learning curve Folks like you and me (and the majority of Neowin) could work around these issues with relative ease, but Johnny Nobody and his sports bar buddies just want to plug it in and go. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DJGM Posted April 27, 2010 Share Posted April 27, 2010 Easy fixes to make linux the best os in the market.. 1. Drivers...Drivers...Drivers. 2. Add/Remove programs. I am pretty decent when it comes to installing software on linux, but my mother isnt, and she shouldnt have to be a computer geek so that she can install her favorite game from the internet on her pc (nor is grandma or dad). 3. Drivers...drivers...Drivers. 4. Sound....freaks...just pick one and stick with it!!!!!!!!! 1. Drivers ... it isn't really the fault of Linux, that some hardware might not work correctly, or work at all. It's more down to some hardware manufacturers not even bothering to actually create driver software that works on Linux. Sometimes, those manufacturers that do actually bother, release quite buggy pre-beta quality driver software for Linux users, that'll only install using command lines in a terminal window, while spending more time and effort writing decent drivers for everyone else, with easy to use setup.exe files you simply double click, follow a few prompts and reboot your PC. 2. Add/Remove programs ... Most common Linux distros such as Ubuntu and openSUSE have point and click package managers for installing and uninstalling software, that are as easy to use as Add/Remove Programs in Windows. 3. Drivers ... see my earlier response to point 1. 4. Sound ... not sure what you meant by that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sanctified Veteran Posted April 27, 2010 Veteran Share Posted April 27, 2010 Other complaints: 2. Ugly GUI 3. No games support (WINE doesn't count) 5. Steep learning curve I really think that Ubuntu is trying to fix these. They're not always right, but seems to be on the right path. About games support. Lets see where Valve's support leads to. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fred Derf Veteran Posted April 27, 2010 Veteran Share Posted April 27, 2010 Easy fixes to make linux the best os in the market.. 1. Drivers...Drivers...Drivers. 2. Add/Remove programs. I am pretty decent when it comes to installing software on linux, but my mother isnt, and she shouldnt have to be a computer geek so that she can install her favorite game from the internet on her pc (nor is grandma or dad). 3. Drivers...drivers...Drivers. 4. Sound....freaks...just pick one and stick with it!!!!!!!!! 2. Synaptic Package Manager running on Debian (or Ubuntu or something similar) is superior to Add/Remove Programs. Sure, it could always be made simpler, prettier and more noob-friendly but it really is quite the tool. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HeretikSaint Posted April 27, 2010 Share Posted April 27, 2010 2. Ugly GUI Seriously? I find that Linux's GUI is far superior to that of Windows or Mac, especially with compositors like compiz. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Syanide Posted April 27, 2010 Share Posted April 27, 2010 2. Synaptic Package Manager running on Debian (or Ubuntu or something similar) is superior to Add/Remove Programs. Sure, it could always be made simpler, prettier and more noob-friendly but it really is quite the tool. I don't think it gets easier than this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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