Meet Firefox 4.0.1

[erpster3]

The Public Beta should be out tonight or tomorrow.

sorry Gary7. Public Beta of FF4b1 ain't ready until at least in July.

A second candidate build of Firefox 4.0 Beta 1 posted today on the Mozilla FTP site:

ftp://ftp.mozilla.org/pub/firefox/nightly/4.0b1-candidates/build2/

And Gary7, pay attention to this page to see when Firefox 4.0 Beta 1 will be available for public release:

https://wiki.mozilla.org/Releases/Firefox_4.0b1

[kainashi]

looks like the beta won't be out until july 5th at the earliest if you look at their roadmap.

[Brandon H Supervisor]

I don't even think the current Firefox menu is staying, I think they're going for a Office style split menu.

I personally wouldn't like a Chrome style update system, Chrome gets features rushed out that can then break (like WebSockets, the spec changed in a breaking way, so the current Chrome release can't talk to servers implementing the current spec, which is needed for Firefox 4 and dev builds of Chrome)

so it's gona end up looking like the strata40 menu, good because I like how they implemented the menu in that theme :)

[+Gary7 Subscriber²]

sorry Gary7. Public Beta of FF4b1 ain't ready until at least in July.

A second candidate build of Firefox 4.0 Beta 1 posted today on the Mozilla FTP site:

ftp://ftp.mozilla.org/pub/firefox/nightly/4.0b1-candidates/build2/

And Gary7, pay attention to this page to see when Firefox 4.0 Beta 1 will be available for public release:

https://wiki.mozilla.org/Releases/Firefox_4.0b1

Oh let me see, I have been a member of that wiki for oh 2 years or so. Maybe you should pay attention to the QMO site as they are having a test day of Firefox 4.0 Beta on July 2, 2010.

Testday: Firefox 4 Beta 1

Also the menu is staying as is except the final release( and Beta 1) in The 4th quarter of this year will say Firefox. I am running Minefield 4.0b2pre but this is just a nightly build . Oh and I have been running nightly builds for 3 months or so.

So maybe you people need to stay informed and pay attention to sites such as:

http://quality.mozilla.org/

https://developer.mozilla.org/en

http://weblogs.mozillazine.org/asa/

http://ftp.mozilla.org/pub/mozilla.org/firefox/nightly/latest-trunk/

That is if you can pry yourself away from Neowin. :whistle:

so it's gona end up looking like the strata40 menu, good because I like how they implemented the menu in that theme :)

No, the default Theme will stay as is!

[Brandon H Supervisor]

No, the default Theme will stay as is!

i didn't say anything about the theme, all I said is the way the menu was implemented in the strata40 theme makes more sense then how they currently have the menu set up for the button atm

[+Gary7 Subscriber²]

i didn't say anything about the theme, all I said is the way the menu was implemented in the strata40 theme makes more sense then how they currently have the menu set up for the button atm

This is as of this posting still in a Pre Beta stage. Many things will change before the 4th. Quarter.

[Kirkburn]

Gary7, you're being unnecessarily combative.

Glad to see a build2 out, doesn't appear to have blockers left.

This is probably the most convenient way to keep up on Firefox development: http://planet.mozilla.org/

[PanosGR88]

Why the pre-release beta has two bookmarks' icons?One for left panel and one for drop down menu.The first one can be disabled but the second its the default and not customizable.Should fix this cause i think many people prefer more customization and for the bookmarks the left panel.

[bogas04]

Why the pre-release beta has two bookmarks' icons?One for left panel and one for drop down menu.The first one can be disabled but the second its the default and not customizable.Should fix this cause i think many people prefer more customization and for the bookmarks the left panel.

its WIP

[soumyasch]

I hope they do something about the background colors of non-active tabs. With a semi-transparent chrome and a black wallpaper, the text is barely legible. They should either reduce the transparency of the tabs or use Aero-style frosting around the text.

See the attached screenshot (its Minefield, latest nightly) towards the inactive tabs. Its looks even worse than the screenshot when actually using it.

[Chasethebase Veteran]

Egh, what's with all that red text? Looks horrible...

[+Heartripper Subscriber¹]

Egh, what's with all that red text? Looks horrible...

It's TabMixPlus customization. He should disable it in TMP settings!

[Udedenkz]

For now the only major performance improvement is D2D.

I wish they would land something else significant like that.

[+Neyht Subscriber²]

Don't know if this has been posted yet. I can't be the only one who wanted to do this...

trim bookmarks drop-menu:

#BMB_bookmarkAllTabs, #BMB_viewBookmarksToolbar, #BMB_viewBookmarksSidebar, #BMB_bookmarksToolbarFolderMenu,  /*#BMB_bookmarksPopup > menuitem:first-child + menuitem + menuseparator*/{ display:none !important; }

All separators are removed on restart because I don't know how to write css code. :laugh:

[edit]

Commented out the separator portion of the code. Looks like I need a little help with that part.

[The_Decryptor Veteran]

For now the only major performance improvement is D2D.

I wish they would land something else significant like that.

Retained layers is close to landing, which should give a pretty good improvement for normal software rendering (since it gets rid of most repainting), but it should also benefit Direct2D.

And eventually they'll be using OpenGL/Direct3D to render webpage and chrome, so that should give another benefit.

[Udedenkz]

Just a warning,

At the moment (July 1st) nightlies are pretty much unusable - typing speed is painfully slow, addons all broken, as well as button.

Retained layers is close to landing, which should give a pretty good improvement for normal software rendering (since it gets rid of most repainting), but it should also benefit Direct2D.

And eventually they'll be using OpenGL/Direct3D to render webpage and chrome, so that should give another benefit.

That should really speed things up. I am glad that they are finally close to landing them.

[The_Decryptor Veteran]

Ohh yeah, some of the code that's landed is going to break a whole bunch of addons, you're going to have to wait for the addons to be updated if they're effected.

[arrrgh]

Yeah, the XPCOM stuff that landed pretty much broke all extensions. Hopefully they'll land retained layers en masse tomorrow for the ultimate bleeding edge experience (i.e. nothing works).

[The_Decryptor Veteran]

Having tried the latest nightly, only the most simple addons work, ABP, Firebug, Weave,etc. no longer function.

And D2D no longer seems to function too, which is funny.

[Richard Hammond]

Thanks for the warning was going to update today.

[Inklin]

I updated not knowing how bad it was going to be until I checked here afterwards :blush: , is there a way for me to roll back to the previous nightly (without using system restore) or does somebody have the installer/link to it please?

EDIT: I think I found what I'm looking for :)

here is yesterdays nightly for those who need a link to it (I think it is yesterdays)

http://ftp.mozilla.o...04-tracemonkey/

(yup got my addons back)

[The_Decryptor Veteran]

You want mozilla-central, not the tracemonkey branch.

[Inklin]

You want mozilla-central, not the tracemonkey branch.

ok thanks, I'm not sre what the difference is between them lol!

[The_Decryptor Veteran]

mozilla-central is the main source repository (trunk), tracemonkey is one of the branches (this one in particular, the tracing JIT in the JS engine)

[Kirkburn]

Not wishing to sound rude - but if you don't know the difference between branches, and have to revert builds every time something breaks ... you probably shouldn't be using the nightlies. You're just asking for trouble and frustration.

At least, I really hope no-one is using it as their main browser (unless they're being very good about reporting and understanding bugs).