Meet Firefox 4.0.1

[XP_2600]

Silly me i found the plus appeared now, i think tabmix plus cause some changes in tabs behavior.

[Yakuzing]

Silly me i found the plus appeared now, i think tabmix plus cause some changes in tabs behavior.

you think? it is after all a tab extension :p

in the past you could not remove the new tab button from the customize function, so used tabmix plus to do it :)

that is why it was being hidden

by the way New Tab button is not needed unless you use tabs on top because you can enable the double clicking on the tab bar to open a new tab - of course that is a matter of personal preference :p

and the double clicking on the tab bar is not possible in win7 any more :(

maybe tabs on top in XP still lets you double click there yeah it should

[XP_2600]

you can enable the double clicking on the tab bar to open a new tab

Hey thanks so much man, i never know this option before!

[BeerFan]

First off, i've been a devout Firefox user for several years now. I never use other browsers unless absolutely necessary.

I hate the tabs on top. That change simply does not make sense to me.

And, without any add-ons installed, i'm seeing a major memory leak. When i launch the app, task manager reports around 35mb of memory usage by firefox.exe. After a few minutes of browsing, that number climbs gradually to 150+ mb, even with only one tab open.

I hope there's a 4th, 5th, and 6th Beta, because this is nowhere near ready for prime time.

[XP_2600]

Well, is there any comparison between FF4 and Chrome or Opera or other browsers to show how is the performance now ?

[Anthonyd]

Well, is there any comparison between FF4 and Chrome or Opera or other browsers to show how is the performance now ?

YES http://arewefastyet.com/

[XP_2600]

So they are still slower ?!

[vajlent]

Does anybody have a compatible AdBlock Plus for FF beta 3 or Minefield beta 4?

and why isn't it possible to visit Windows Live, like Hotmail etc...?

[XP_2600]

Now i don't like the tabs bar place, i think the address bar must back to its original location, is there any hack to do so ? when i move it from customize i got command menu between address bar and tabs bar!.

[+Frank B. Subscriber²]

Just fyi: There's a new Adblock Plus development build available at https://adblockplus.org/devbuilds/adblockplus/ which works with current Minefield builds.

As per usual: Remember to whitelist Neowin when using ABP.

[iwod]

YES http://arewefastyet.com/

That is only for JS.

To simply answer the question, Firefox 4 is quite a bit faster then previous version. But it is still the slowest out of all the next gen / current gen browser. ( Excluding IE )

How ever there are still many improvement yet to land. Although i dont expect Firefox 4 Final to lead ahead of Chrome and Opera . But even if it did only come close i would still go back to firefox.

[DrCheese]

Just fyi: There's a new Adblock Plus development build available at https://adblockplus.org/devbuilds/adblockplus/ which works with current Minefield builds.

As per usual: Remember to whitelist Neowin when using ABP.

Nope, You still have to do that fix that we previously had to do to get rid of the redirect bug

[vajlent]

Just fyi: There's a new Adblock Plus development build available at https://adblockplus.org/devbuilds/adblockplus/ which works with current Minefield builds.

As per usual: Remember to whitelist Neowin when using ABP.

That version of dev.build doesn't work very well...

almost block everything for no reason.

[+M2Ys4U Subscriber¹]

First off, i've been a devout Firefox user for several years now. I never use other browsers unless absolutely necessary.

I hate the tabs on top. That change simply does not make sense to me.

And, without any add-ons installed, i'm seeing a major memory leak. When i launch the app, task manager reports around 35mb of memory usage by firefox.exe. After a few minutes of browsing, that number climbs gradually to 150+ mb, even with only one tab open.

I hope there's a 4th, 5th, and 6th Beta, because this is nowhere near ready for prime time.

Mozilla are planning 7 betas. I'm pretty sure that you'll be able to move the tabs back to the bottom, tabs-on-top is just a default AFAIK.

and why isn't it possible to visit Windows Live, like Hotmail etc...?

Microsoft is stupid and performs bad browser-sniffing, and thinks Firefox 4 is a mobile browser.

So they are still slower ?!

At the moment - yes. However, both branches (the orange and black lines on the graphs) are yet to be merged, and when they are they'll be faster than the two individually.

[XP_2600]

owever, both branches (the orange and black lines on the graphs) are yet to be merged, and when they are they'll be faster than the two individually.

You mean merged doubling the performance ?! so it drop down from about 600 to 300 ?

[+Frank B. Subscriber²]

You mean merged doubling the performance ?! so it drop down from about 600 to 300 ?

... and by the time J?germonkey is merged with the Firefox trunk, Google and Apple will have sped up their respective JS engines even more.

Aren't browser wars fun?

[XP_2600]

Aren't browser wars fun?

Lol, i don't find it funny as our favorite browser (FF) is always the slowest !

[funkyblue]

How long do bugs take to get looked at? I hope mine gets a look at.

[The_Decryptor Veteran]

Mozilla are planning 7 betas. I'm pretty sure that you'll be able to move the tabs back to the bottom, tabs-on-top is just a default AFAIK.

Tabs on top is a toggle and have been since support landed (before it was made the default for Windows)

At the moment - yes. However, both branches (the orange and black lines on the graphs) are yet to be merged, and when they are they'll be faster than the two individually.

http://www.arewefastyet.com/?machine=6

The merged engine (purple) line is kicking ass on V8 compared to plain TM and JM, but there's still lots of work to be done.

[XP_2600]

And there is noway to move the commands menu to its original location ?

[+M2Ys4U Subscriber¹]

Tabs on top is a toggle and have been since support landed (before it was made the default for Windows)

http://www.arewefastyet.com/?machine=6

The merged engine (purple) line is kicking ass on V8 compared to plain TM and JM, but there's still lots of work to be done.

Aha, I didn't know there was a graph for a merged engine, thanks.

[skyli]

Hi!

Why is direcwrite ugly?

http://img256.imageshack.us/img256/7900/59931290.png

[Mainer82]

Is it possible to tell certain startup tabs to open as an App Tab?

[Lewism]

Nope, You still have to do that fix that we previously had to do to get rid of the redirect bug

New version released. Finally fixed.

[The_Decryptor Veteran]

Hi!

Why is direcwrite ugly?

http://img256.imageshack.us/img256/7900/59931290.png

I'm not seeing any ugly in that picture.

DirectWrite does have some bugs, but they're mainly with light text on a dark background.