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Silly me i found the plus appeared now, i think tabmix plus cause some changes in tabs behavior.

you think? it is after all a tab extension :p

in the past you could not remove the new tab button from the customize function, so used tabmix plus to do it :)

that is why it was being hidden

by the way New Tab button is not needed unless you use tabs on top because you can enable the double clicking on the tab bar to open a new tab - of course that is a matter of personal preference :p

and the double clicking on the tab bar is not possible in win7 any more :(

maybe tabs on top in XP still lets you double click there yeah it should

First off, i've been a devout Firefox user for several years now. I never use other browsers unless absolutely necessary.

I hate the tabs on top. That change simply does not make sense to me.

And, without any add-ons installed, i'm seeing a major memory leak. When i launch the app, task manager reports around 35mb of memory usage by firefox.exe. After a few minutes of browsing, that number climbs gradually to 150+ mb, even with only one tab open.

I hope there's a 4th, 5th, and 6th Beta, because this is nowhere near ready for prime time.

Just fyi: There's a new Adblock Plus development build available at https://adblockplus.org/devbuilds/adblockplus/ which works with current Minefield builds.

As per usual: Remember to whitelist Neowin when using ABP.

That is only for JS.

To simply answer the question, Firefox 4 is quite a bit faster then previous version. But it is still the slowest out of all the next gen / current gen browser. ( Excluding IE )

How ever there are still many improvement yet to land. Although i dont expect Firefox 4 Final to lead ahead of Chrome and Opera . But even if it did only come close i would still go back to firefox.

Just fyi: There's a new Adblock Plus development build available at https://adblockplus.org/devbuilds/adblockplus/ which works with current Minefield builds.

As per usual: Remember to whitelist Neowin when using ABP.

Nope, You still have to do that fix that we previously had to do to get rid of the redirect bug

Just fyi: There's a new Adblock Plus development build available at https://adblockplus.org/devbuilds/adblockplus/ which works with current Minefield builds.

As per usual: Remember to whitelist Neowin when using ABP.

That version of dev.build doesn't work very well...

almost block everything for no reason.

First off, i've been a devout Firefox user for several years now. I never use other browsers unless absolutely necessary.

I hate the tabs on top. That change simply does not make sense to me.

And, without any add-ons installed, i'm seeing a major memory leak. When i launch the app, task manager reports around 35mb of memory usage by firefox.exe. After a few minutes of browsing, that number climbs gradually to 150+ mb, even with only one tab open.

I hope there's a 4th, 5th, and 6th Beta, because this is nowhere near ready for prime time.

Mozilla are planning 7 betas. I'm pretty sure that you'll be able to move the tabs back to the bottom, tabs-on-top is just a default AFAIK.

and why isn't it possible to visit Windows Live, like Hotmail etc...?

Microsoft is stupid and performs bad browser-sniffing, and thinks Firefox 4 is a mobile browser.

So they are still slower ?!

At the moment - yes. However, both branches (the orange and black lines on the graphs) are yet to be merged, and when they are they'll be faster than the two individually.

You mean merged doubling the performance ?! so it drop down from about 600 to 300 ?

... and by the time J?germonkey is merged with the Firefox trunk, Google and Apple will have sped up their respective JS engines even more.

Aren't browser wars fun?

Mozilla are planning 7 betas. I'm pretty sure that you'll be able to move the tabs back to the bottom, tabs-on-top is just a default AFAIK.

Tabs on top is a toggle and have been since support landed (before it was made the default for Windows)

At the moment - yes. However, both branches (the orange and black lines on the graphs) are yet to be merged, and when they are they'll be faster than the two individually.

http://www.arewefastyet.com/?machine=6

The merged engine (purple) line is kicking ass on V8 compared to plain TM and JM, but there's still lots of work to be done.

Tabs on top is a toggle and have been since support landed (before it was made the default for Windows)

http://www.arewefastyet.com/?machine=6

The merged engine (purple) line is kicking ass on V8 compared to plain TM and JM, but there's still lots of work to be done.

Aha, I didn't know there was a graph for a merged engine, thanks.

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