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Is this the progress bar you are talking about or are you talking about the proposed top of tabs progress bar? I think they should use the former and fill the whole address bar instead of the tiny line. When cropping the image I noticed it isn't even drawn properly as half of the line sits outside the address bar.

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Is this the progress bar you are talking about or are you talking about the proposed top of tabs progress bar? I think they should use the former and fill the whole address bar instead of the tiny line. When cropping the image I noticed it isn't even drawn properly as half of the line sits outside the address bar.

Sounds like both progress bars are causing problems - address bar and tab. https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=602964

I really don't see the point in comparing JS speed, unless the benchmark is something time sensitive (i.e. rendering operations or such where it has to be completed within a set time frame) or the difference is massive (like older IE versions where the benchmark might take 10 minutes, vs. 10 seconds in Firefox/Chrome/Safari)

For example, Firefox is 74ms faster than Safari on the v8 benchmark, but so what? That's less than 1/10th of a second difference.

Well, not for any other browser but Firefox, because Firefox in itself relies a lot on XUL, which includes javascript.

is the final release still set for late Oct/Nov

cant wait to start using it

I would say more likely january 2011 :(

they are struggling to even get beta 7 released (still 14 blockers left and it has been this for awhile!)

and there is still another beta (this might not be out till november at the current rate we are going) and release candidates after that to get through before the final release even...

Here is what is blocking the final release: https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/buglist.cgi?quicksearch=blocking2.0%3Afinal

As you can see we have a long time to go!

is the final release still set for late Oct/Nov

cant wait to start using it

Guessing by the state of the Firefox 4.0 nightly builds there is no way for Mozilla to get it out of the door before the end of 2010 unless they start cutting even more features.

Firefox 4.0 is in a way Mozilla's Windows Vista in the making: Too many promises, features are being cut during development, the end result looks to become mediocre compared to other browsers.

Here's hoping they can get it right with 4.1/4.5 or whatever 4.next will be called.

So I havent tryed the nightlys for a while but got bord of waiting for b7 thought id give them a try...wow it looks horrible

all of the loading bars look horrible on the tabs and in the url bar they just don't fit in with the theme also why are the tabs now a horrible grey colour they looked fine in b6 why change them, the removal of the status bar is fine..aslong as you replace the functionallity..they havent I have no script ad block and stylish I have no way of getting to them without having horrible big buttons in the main menu and because the new "firefox menu button thing" is pretty rubbish I have to click about 6 times to get add on options.

Im really dissapointed with the way firefox is going...

So I havent tryed the nightlys for a while but got bord of waiting for b7 thought id give them a try...wow it looks horrible

all of the loading bars look horrible on the tabs and in the url bar they just don't fit in with the theme also why are the tabs now a horrible grey colour they looked fine in b6 why change them, the removal of the status bar is fine..aslong as you replace the functionallity..they havent I have no script ad block and stylish I have no way of getting to them without have horrible big buttons in the main menu and because the new "firefox menu button thing" is pretty rubbish I have to click about 6 times to get add on options.

Im really dissapointed with the way firefox is going...

Well I'm not. The problem are the bugs. It's taking to long to fix them. But I think Mozilla is heading in the right direction with Firefox. After FX4 is released they should focus on speed.

Am I tripping or does the original mock-ups look a hell of a lot better than the beta UI?

Mockup

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Beta

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I've complained about this in this thread before, the current Beta UI looks like a train wreck and over the last few weeks there's be no attempt to fix that.

Am I tripping or does the original mock-ups look a hell of a lot better than the beta UI?

Mockup

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Beta

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That Beta, is like Firefox Beta 1 or 2. Doesn't have the new tabs at all. It still has a ways to go though, give it time. Still a lot to accomplish.

I've complained about this in this thread before, the current Beta UI looks like a train wreck and over the last few weeks there's be no attempt to fix that.

Look at the bug trackers. ;) Still LOTS of work to be done before it's final.

There really isn't one.

I mean, the current builds don't have the shadow around everything, or the connecting curves (that's coming though, the mac theme needs it), but apart from that it's basically the same.

The difference between having curves and shadows...

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... and not having curves and shadows.

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It's like A1 steak sauce... yeah, it's that important. :D

I have to agree with neudera and thealexweb, the beta's UI looks more like a pathetic rip-off rather than a polished work of art.

And they've even decided to get rid of the progress bars, there's still problems with performance and rendering... etc etc. Its disappointing.

I've got a feeling that Firefox 4.0 is going to be a half-baked release, which will soon be followed by 4.1.x releases to buff out the kinks.

The difference between having curves and shadows...

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... and not having curves and shadows.

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It's like A1 steak sauce... yeah, it's that important. :D

Yeah... there's a fair bit of difference between Aero on Windows 7 and Classic on Windows 98 that has nothing to do with shadows and curves.

Yeah... there's a fair bit of difference between Aero on Windows 7 and Classic on Windows 98 that has nothing to do with shadows and curves.

You know what I was getting at. An unpolished UI isn't worth anything. Do it right or don't do it at all.

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