Meet Firefox 4.0.1

[skyli]

I can't scroll other websites when there is a pdf open in an other tab :s (i have synaptic touchpad)

IS it working for you? (beta 6 pre)

[Steven P. Administrators]

I've had to disable Hardware Acceleration because its still too flaky for me, especially on the Neowin Home Page :/

[skyli]

I've had to disable Hardware Acceleration because its still too flaky for me, especially on the Neowin Home Page :/

Me too. But it seems there is still something left (which actually accelerates too): about:config -> layers.accelerate-all - enabled by default (but this thing makes youtube pdf's a bit strange for me.. and it's not good to switch gpu while browsing too with this )

[Chasethebase Veteran]

I rolled back to the stable release, for reasons that any embedded plugin such as YouTube could suddenly become unresponsive and glitchy.

[AaronMT]

Hello All,

Beta 5 should be expected this afternoon.

Thanks,

Aaron (Mozilla QA Engineer)

[yowanvista]

Download beta 5 here: ftp://ftp.mozilla.org/pub/mozilla.org/firefox/releases/4.0b5/win32/en-US/Firefox%20Setup%204.0%20Beta%205.exe

[torrentthief]

it seems that beta 5 was built on 31st august according to the date modified, is that true, surely bugs would have been found in the past week? No EN-GB version of 4b5 yet, seems to always take a long time for the British versions to hit the servers.

Firefox 3.6.9 isn't out yet:( thunderbird 3.1.3 is tho :)

P.S please change the topic title to Beta 5

[kainashi]

just downloaded beta 5. anyone else's crash when trying to update addons? :blink:

[yowanvista]

just downloaded beta 5. anyone else's crash when trying to update addons? :blink:

Works fine for me :cool:

[kainashi]

guess i'll try a clean install and see if that works. :)

edit: fixed itself. didn't have to reinstall afterall. :D

[vajlent]

How do I disable compatibility checking completely?

Not with the compatibility reporter add-on but in the about:config.

Cheers ;)

[yowanvista]

How do I disable compatibility checking completely?

Not with the compatibility reporter add-on but in the about:config.

Cheers ;)

Type about:config in your browser address bar and agree to the warning message. Now right click inside the browser, choose New ?> Boolean, type the preference name as extensions.checkCompatibility.4.0b and set it to False.

[vajlent]

Type about:config in your browser address bar and agree to the warning message. Now right click inside the browser, choose New ?> Boolean, type the preference name as extensions.checkCompatibility.4.0b and set it to False.

Thanx!

but I still have a warning message in add-ons manager which I didn't had before?

[SakuraKira]

Below, I've tried to simulate the mockup as closely as possible using only Stylish hacks from various people, but no extensions. The mockup is loaded in a tab for reference:

<SNIP IMAGE>

These seem like somewhat basic changes, but they are taking an awfully long time to get into the UI.

I'm not saying I can do it, but I'm sure a dedicated CSS artist could make it look very close to the mockup using the current Gecko engine. Just make it look as close as possible, and if something is committed that messes up the layout, at least there is a layout and probably just a minor margin adjustment.

The question is, why hasn't this happened yet? Shouldn't there be just one bug filed on it called "Get SoapyHamHocks to make beta 4 look like the mockup" :p

Thank you for posting this comparison, I took your image and looked at it under zoom. Doing that, the border problems become obvious...

In the mockup, you can see how the dark gray border around the tabs and toolbar goes down for the window contents, making it all look self contained and clean. In the real approximation the border is only around the toolbar, making the eye see it as uneven when viewed in actual size. I really hope this can be fixed in the final version, otherwise it will irk me to no end.

Also, they still need to add the curved connection where tab meets the toolbar.

*fingers crossed*

[adiopse]

Download beta 5 here: ftp://ftp.mozilla.org/pub/mozilla.org/firefox/releases/4.0b5/win32/en-US/Firefox%20Setup%204.0%20Beta%205.exe

Doh, 8/31. I've been running this build since...8/31.

Guess I'll start trying b6pre builds.

[torrentthief]

Firefox 4 Beta 5 Sunspider benchmark results:

Total:                  721.0ms +/- 1.8%
--------------------------------------------

  3d:                   126.8ms +/- 7.4%
    cube:                41.0ms +/- 7.1%
    morph:               27.6ms +/- 9.3%
    raytrace:            58.2ms +/- 20.2%

  access:               115.0ms +/- 5.5%
    binary-trees:        27.8ms +/- 12.4%
    fannkuch:            56.0ms +/- 5.2%
    nbody:               13.6ms +/- 17.8%
    nsieve:              17.6ms +/- 13.8%

  bitops:                32.6ms +/- 17.2%
    3bit-bits-in-byte:    1.4ms +/- 48.6%
    bits-in-byte:        10.8ms +/- 15.0%
    bitwise-and:          2.6ms +/- 42.8%
    nsieve-bits:         17.8ms +/- 33.3%

  controlflow:           12.2ms +/- 23.2%
    recursive:           12.2ms +/- 23.2%

  crypto:                47.8ms +/- 19.8%
    aes:                 25.6ms +/- 9.5%
    md5:                 15.4ms +/- 57.8%
    sha1:                 6.8ms +/- 45.5%

  date:                  83.4ms +/- 12.8%
    format-tofte:        50.8ms +/- 17.3%
    format-xparb:        32.6ms +/- 9.2%

  math:                  79.8ms +/- 18.6%
    cordic:              50.4ms +/- 30.7%
    partial-sums:        20.4ms +/- 21.8%
    spectral-norm:        9.0ms +/- 21.8%

  regexp:                50.6ms +/- 9.6%
    dna:                 50.6ms +/- 9.6%

  string:               172.8ms +/- 6.4%
    base64:              10.0ms +/- 30.5%
    fasta:               33.0ms +/- 13.3%
    tagcloud:            53.0ms +/- 9.2%
    unpack-code:         56.4ms +/- 10.1%
    validate-input:      20.4ms +/- 20.5%

Firefox 4 Beta 4 Sunspider benchmark results:

Total:                  826.8ms +/- 2.0%
--------------------------------------------

  3d:                   138.4ms +/- 8.2%
    cube:                43.2ms +/- 9.4%
    morph:               38.4ms +/- 11.4%
    raytrace:            56.8ms +/- 12.9%

  access:               139.8ms +/- 10.7%
    binary-trees:        38.2ms +/- 12.0%
    fannkuch:            62.6ms +/- 8.7%
    nbody:               16.6ms +/- 34.2%
    nsieve:              22.4ms +/- 11.5%

  bitops:                48.8ms +/- 30.9%
    3bit-bits-in-byte:    1.8ms +/- 30.9%
    bits-in-byte:        19.8ms +/- 30.9%
    bitwise-and:          5.0ms +/- 17.6%
    nsieve-bits:         22.2ms +/- 38.1%

  controlflow:           16.8ms +/- 42.3%
    recursive:           16.8ms +/- 42.3%

  crypto:                50.6ms +/- 13.1%
    aes:                 24.6ms +/- 16.2%
    md5:                 14.8ms +/- 31.1%
    sha1:                11.2ms +/- 29.8%

  date:                 108.4ms +/- 3.1%
    format-tofte:        64.4ms +/- 5.9%
    format-xparb:        44.0ms +/- 8.5%

  math:                  87.0ms +/- 14.8%
    cordic:              45.6ms +/- 14.8%
    partial-sums:        27.0ms +/- 29.5%
    spectral-norm:       14.4ms +/- 30.9%

  regexp:                48.8ms +/- 10.9%
    dna:                 48.8ms +/- 10.9%

  string:               188.2ms +/- 7.7%
    base64:              11.6ms +/- 36.0%
    fasta:               35.8ms +/- 17.6%
    tagcloud:            58.6ms +/- 17.3%
    unpack-code:         52.8ms +/- 3.9%
    validate-input:      29.4ms +/- 16.0%

Over 100ms faster:) This was with a core2 2.0ghz laptop cpu, 3gb ram and nvidia 9200M GE on Win 7 x64 Ultimate.

[+M2Ys4U Subscriber¹]

Firefox 4 Beta 5 Sunspider benchmark results:

<snip>

Over 100ms faster:) This was with a core2 2.0ghz laptop cpu, 3gb ram and nvidia 9200M GE on Win 7 x64 Ultimate.

http://www.arewefastyet.com/

[Kirkburn]

http://www.arewefastyet.com/

Well indeed, but that doesn't demarcate the improvements between public beta releases. (Obviously it shows the very positive general trend in the nightlies though)

[ViperAFK]

The whole program seems much more responsive in the latest nightlies. Tab candy performance still leaves a lot to be desired though (but its improved a lot). The animations are jerky. Also the tab open/close animation don't seem as smooth as opera and chrome, and sometimes they will lag if you are loading multiple pages in the background while opening a new tab.

I just wish you could make tab candy persistent, sort of like speeddial in opera. That would be so awesome, would be way better than opera's speeddial and chromes new tab page if I could make tab groups in tab candy and have them be saved and appear next time I start the browser, and have the ability to set tab candy as the home page. Right now I just don't find it very useful unless you leave your browser open 24/7. You can make all these nice organized tab groups, but bye bye once you close the browser. Seems to defeat the purpose.

[Steven P. Administrators]

Updated topic title :)

[kainashi]

anyone else having a blank "Custom Value" page pop up along with their homepage when they start firefox? :blink:

[escobar_]

anyone else having a blank "Custom Value" page pop up along with their homepage when they start firefox? :blink:

I do.

And I also find this Beta extremely slow.

[Unrealistic]

The whole program seems much more responsive in the latest nightlies. Tab candy performance still leaves a lot to be desired though (but its improved a lot). The animations are jerky. Also the tab open/close animation don't seem as smooth as opera and chrome, and sometimes they will lag if you are loading multiple pages in the background while opening a new tab.

I just wish you could make tab candy persistent, sort of like speeddial in opera. That would be so awesome, would be way better than opera's speeddial and chromes new tab page if I could make tab groups in tab candy and have them be saved and appear next time I start the browser, and have the ability to set tab candy as the home page. Right now I just don't find it very useful unless you leave your browser open 24/7. You can make all these nice organized tab groups, but bye bye once you close the browser. Seems to defeat the purpose.

Couldn't agree more.

[+Gary7 Subscriber²]

Thanx!

but I still have a warning message in add-ons manager which I didn't had before?

You will if as long as you have add ons that are not compatible.

[Phenom II]

Seems a much better build, still got a damn annoying issue of having to click twice in the post reply box to be able to type, and clicking on a reply to PM email, takes me to the PM, and then immediately to a new screen with only an Advert on it, and have to click back, this happens a few times before it will stay on the PM

2D acceleration makes text fuzzy too