Console or PC

[treemonster]

Nice way to start off, I know know that I'm arguing with a 15 year-old living in Mom's basement. I voted for Consoles, not specifically the 360. I happen to own a 360 because I like the controller and a few of the games better. Unless you want to call me a console fanboy, which is as retarded as me calling you an oxygen fanboy. By the way, you can quote me line by line by just highlighting part of my post and pressing that nice shiny "Quote" button. Us grown ups actually sometimes even manually type in the [ quote][/ quote]. Not that difficult. Try it, it'll make your garbage a lot easier to read and address.

...A flash gamer? So you're comparing a $300 console that can play full blown 3D games with a $300 machine that's good for....Robot Unicorn Attack? Fantastic comparison. At any rate, For the cost of that $600 PC, I can get a 360 elite with a 23" HD monitor and a game, and still have enough left over to get a few months of Live. Very poor argument there, PCs may be better in some ways, but will never be price efficient. Let's also not forget that in the real world, adults buy Windows, not pirate it, so in $600, you haven't even factored in the price of a Windows 7 license. Unless you intend to game on Linux. Which, if you do, I have pity for you.

Completely true. Firstly, the "new" (I say "new" because they've been out for a long time now) Jasper chipsets cannot Red Ring (Or if they do it's very very rare), so the chances of complete XB failure are quite slim. And I say again, you can repair your Xbox just as easily in a third part repair shop as you can with a computer. On the topic of losing files any memory stick up to 16 GB will back up your save files on your 360 (not sure about the PS3). Some online games even store your data on their servers (COD, Rainbow 6) and any content your purchase on Live can be re-downloaded at any time on any console provided you recover your gamertag. Seriously, you're really reaching for thin air now; the point is if your PC crashes to the point where your files get ****ed, you've lost files and stability (temporarily) on a machine that you use for your real life. Us grown ups actually use our computers for big-boy things like writing up company reports and spreadsheets. So I say again, what's your point?

Consoles play their games perfectly when the dev has put in the time and effort to test, retest, and fine tune his or her code to ensure perfect operation on the Xbox. The upside to this is that he/she doesn't need to worry about multiple configurations, only the one that the 360 needs (or PS3, if the case calls for it). The PS3, compared to the 360's architecture, is vastly more complicated and new to developers, and most STILL haven't utilized all the cores of the PS3 or its full graphical potential, so I am not surprised that a PORT of a popular game plays better on a familiar console architecture. At any rate, those points still don't make much sense. I don't quite understand what you're trying to argue, I never said they'll always play the newest games properly, I simply said that hardware requirements are never an issue for the consoles. Whether or not they "stutter" has everything to do with how the game is coded and nothing to do with the hardware of the consoles.

Although I'm sure you'd love to think that, I don't think you've ever seen the difference between Gears of War 1 and 2. Or between Forza 2 and 3. And so on. I don't give a damn about dx9 or 10 or whatever irrelevant PC-exclusive technology you want to use, I'm not blind and I see a clear graphical improvement between games that first came out and games now. And like I said, you're so obssessed with dx8 this and dx9 that to the point that you really don't seem to understand not all games are equal. Games that were out for the original Xbox and moved to the 360 don't instantly look better because of the hardware. The actual graphical elements and resources used in the game need to be top notch and usually completely redone, the game engine needs to properly handle all the elements being rendered, and the physics engine (if applicable) needs to be able to cope with both. If those aren't' the case, then ANY game, console or pc, will look like crap.

...Every time you play a console game, all that goes through your mind is how they would look with DirectX? That's IT? Nothing else about the game interests you? I don't know if I should call that flatout pathetic, or just simply go with the fact you're biased to hell and back.

No, you've heard what you wanted to hear because you are a PC gamer and you probably just Googled "RROD" and assumed the number of results that came back equated the number of people. I myself have owned the same 360 since the start, and the same is the case with the 15+ people I regularly play with on Live. It's nto that difficult. I know people who have the original Non-Jasper chipsets and they're still doing fine (they keep their 360s well ventilated). At the same time, It's so damn easy for me to just shoot right back at you how many times I've read forum posts about games crashing people's computers or people having hardware failures with their PC. See how irrelevant that is?

/sigh lolz. w/e. some of us adults prefer to put our points in point form rather than bother to type out /quote etc. sorry get over it.

flash games are big right now. not my cup of tea, but really the big thing these days. just ask zynga. $60-80 games says otherwise about price efficiency. upfront a 360+23" monitor might be cheaper but buy new games regularly over the course of say a year it will easily equal out. and there are half decent PCs that cost $600 with win, besides the fact that you can easily "transfer" a win license to a new PC.

lolz at this whole paragraph. PCs have many options to easily and nearly instantly backup mission critical data. so you can redownload your games with xbl, guess what i can do that with steam. and warranties tend to be better for PC parts than they are for any console, along with the ability to trouble shoot PC problems long before RMA. as if fairly bad prebuilts were even as bad as the 360's have proven to be here.

which is why post release patches have become more and more common and necessary in the last decade for console games yes? and i think the stutter seen on certain ps 3 games and even 360 games is very indicative of both the hardware and the dev wquality expected of consoles and their games. it's true pc gamers put up with grabage at releases from their games but this has been true for 20 years. console games on the other hand used to be different. not so different nowadays.

i absolutely rofled at this paragraph. dx9 was a huge leap from dx8. overall console games look much the same form the 360/ps3 launch to now. if certain franchise looks better to you for some reason it's probably due to the art department, not actual technical graphics improvement.

[Brandon H Supervisor]

this is an extreme matter of opinion on what you want

for optimum performance you usually want a counsel

for modibility you'll want a pc (you'll have to spend more if you want optimum performance)

[LiquidSolstice]

/sigh lolz. w/e. some of us adults prefer to put our points in point form rather than bother to type out /quote etc. sorry get over it.

flash games are big right now. not my cup of tea, but really the big thing these days. just ask zynga. $60-80 games says otherwise about price efficiency. upfront a 360+23" monitor might be cheaper but buy new games regularly over the course of say a year it will easily equal out. and there are half decent PCs that cost $600 with win, besides the fact that you can easily "transfer" a win license to a new PC.

lolz at this whole paragraph. PCs have many options to easily and nearly instantly backup mission critical data. so you can redownload your games with xbl, guess what i can do that with steam. and warranties tend to be better for PC parts than they are for any console, along with the ability to trouble shoot PC problems long before RMA. as if fairly bad prebuilts were even as bad as the 360's have proven to be here.

which is why post release patches have become more and more common and necessary in the last decade for console games yes? and i think the stutter seen on certain ps 3 games and even 360 games is very indicative of both the hardware and the dev wquality expected of consoles and their games. it's true pc gamers put up with grabage at releases from their games but this has been true for 20 years. console games on the other hand used to be different. not so different nowadays.

i absolutely rofled at this paragraph. dx9 was a huge leap from dx8. overall console games look much the same form the 360/ps3 launch to now. if certain franchise looks better to you for some reason it's probably due to the art department, not actual technical graphics improvement.

Blah blah blah.

Translation: "I'm a whiny little child who doesn't like logic and I didn't read your big long post because it scared me so I'll just say 'lol' every other word and make it seem like you're stupid."

I think I hit the nail on the head there. Nice try, by the way. (not) PC games also cost the same range, just FYI. The thing is, I can buy used console games. Because of your DRM restrictions and copy protection and StarForge (or whatever it's called), that's not an option for you. Get over it, PC gaming is not cheap and never will be. Guess what? Like I said before, I can play Assassin's Creed 2 WITHOUT an internet connection? Like, omigosh. Is there something wrong with post-release patches? Because I don't see what's wrong with waiting an extra 10 seconds to play my game with bugs fixed.

Again, I don't give a damn about dx8 or dx9, I'm more concerned with whether or not my games play smoothly and look great. Which they do.

You keep whining about dx9, I'll keep paying far less for a more consistent and stable gaming experience that doesn't affect my work life.

It's a shame. I was searching for someone who doesn't have the attention span of a 13 year-old want to refute me? Actually, never mind. I think I'm done with this thread. Good bye.

[Hedon]

If you are looking for ingredients to make an epic fail post, look no further than Tree's post. My god son, you really don't believe anything you posted, do you?

[hotdog666al]

PC.

- Cheaper games

- Better framerates

- Higher resolutions

- "Next gen" graphics, today.

- Quite a few games to choose from? :rofl:

[Raa]

The PC. Absolute hands down winner.

[xendrome]

Console + controller. There really is no other way.

I will respond with a graphic that explains it all.

[+hedleigh Subscriber²]

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Us grown ups actually use our computers for big-boy things like writing up company reports and spreadsheets. So I say again, what's your point?

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Pardon me? I must be using my computer incorrectly then.???:blink:

I had an Xbox 360 and couldn't stand the noise it made or come to grips with using the controller. Gave it away after a week. (to a 12 year old???:shiftyninja:?)

PC for me all the way.

[Duality]

The arguements in this thread from both sides make me laugh.

Neither is "better" than the other. Just use what you prefer and get over it. This poll isn't a "which is better" poll, its a "what do you prefer" poll.

[Hedon]

Pardon me? I must be using my computer incorrectly then. :blink:

I had an Xbox 360 and couldn't stand the noise it made or come to grips with using the controller. Gave it away after a week. (to a 12 year old :shiftyninja: )

PC for me all the way.

I never hear my 360.

[Chosen One]

PC

[+hedleigh Subscriber²]

I never hear my 360.

I don't hear mine any more either!? :rofl:

[PixilEyes]

Us grown ups actually use our computers for big-boy things like writing up company reports and spreadsheets. So I say again, what's your point?

Last time I checked grow up's produce games which result in profits. Must be only kids working at blizzard and others.

Seriously stop trolling and shu away.

Back on topic then. I'm a PC guy my self.

[-Himanshu-]

PC for me because I don't have a console.

But, even if I owned a console, I would have chosen PC.

[treemonster]

Blah blah blah.

Translation: "I'm a whiny little child who doesn't like logic and I didn't read your big long post because it scared me so I'll just say 'lol' every other word and make it seem like you're stupid."

I think I hit the nail on the head there. Nice try, by the way. (not) PC games also cost the same range, just FYI. The thing is, I can buy used console games. Because of your DRM restrictions and copy protection and StarForge (or whatever it's called), that's not an option for you. Get over it, PC gaming is not cheap and never will be. Guess what? Like I said before, I can play Assassin's Creed 2 WITHOUT an internet connection? Like, omigosh. Is there something wrong with post-release patches? Because I don't see what's wrong with waiting an extra 10 seconds to play my game with bugs fixed.

Again, I don't give a damn about dx8 or dx9, I'm more concerned with whether or not my games play smoothly and look great. Which they do.

You keep whining about dx9, I'll keep paying far less for a more consistent and stable gaming experience that doesn't affect my work life.

It's a shame. I was searching for someone who doesn't have the attention span of a 13 year-old want to refute me? Actually, never mind. I think I'm done with this thread. Good bye.

If you are looking for ingredients to make an epic fail post, look no further than Tree's post. My god son, you really don't believe anything you posted, do you?

/facepalm

seriously. no wonder this forum has the rep that it has.

[Sethos]

/facepalm

seriously. no wonder this forum has the rep that it has.

Yeah and your cringe-worthy posts does a lot to help.

[Digitalx]

PC i prefer controls and stuff but ps3 or pc don't bother me platform wise pc has cheaper games but ps3 sometimes has better games.

[treemonster]

Yeah and your cringe-worthy posts does a lot to help.

i've been actively posting a few months. despite my bad typing english i'm sure your 20k posts has more to do with it than anything i have contributed.

btw i not that it matters i post and am respected on a few decent enthusiast forums with much better prestige than this forum and have no issues. ofc we tend to get the fanboyism out of the way quickly and decent moderation to move non realted post to more suitable forum but here we are stuck with the forums we have are we not.

i've lurked for a while and i have to say despite not paying attention to who posts what, this forum has the rep it deserves. fanboyism, personal attacks and such are common here. i prefer to avoid such non sense.

i have used regularly or owned a 360 a ps3 and 2 decent PCs within the last 3 years. i keep in touch with owners of all 3 consoles and regular users of of all 4 platforms. i read the news and the rumours about each platform above and beyond what is seen at neowin. i value irl experience over FUD any day of the week.

if you or anyone else wishes to continue personal attacks against me my advice is to save it for some who gives a ****. this will make our discussions that much smoother and interesting.

i come with no FUD, a little bias, and 20 years of limited hands on experience. when i buy i look at all options regardless of my preference and spend the time to find what's best

now that that's cleared up:

i obviously prefer PCs for various reasons. and for me they are a better value. perhaps for you they are not. perhaps you prefer to spend $300 on a console to game and $300-$600 on a PC to browse.or maybe you can deal with internet browsing on a ps3. me i like to do it all from my desk, and i prefer keyboard and mouse to a clumsy controller. if you prefer the reverse than good for you. but for me and many others, PC is the better value.

[Hedon]

And for me and many others, consoles are a far better value.

[+Frank B. Subscriber²]

Where's the Mac option? :shifty:

Jokes aside, both PC and consoles have their place, depending on the game. GTA is better suited for a console, games like the Total War series are better suited for the PC.

[hotdog666al]

[Kronir]

I'm primarily PC these days, but it depends on the genre: sports/wrestling games, I'd rather play on the console. Turn-based strategy games and RPGs/Adventure games that aren't first person, I can go either way. For everything else (shooters, First-Person RPGs, MMOs, etc.), I say PC.

But, yeah, I'm primarily a PC gamer. Haven't gotten around to grabbing a PS3 or a Wii yet, and my PS2 has been collecting dust for the past year. ^_^

[+Warwagon MVC]

Are you kidding me.... PC with a keyboard + mouse.

/thread.

[Jen Smith]

Are you kidding me.... PC with a keyboard + mouse.

/thread.

This. Anything even remotely like a FPS using a gamepad is just clunky and aggravating. By the time I've managed to line up a shot with a gamepad, the bad guy has already removed my skull, tossed it over the horizon, and danced on my corpse a few times.

[Knife Party]

@ hotdog963al :D