Kinect Priced, New Bundles, 4GB Slim Announced

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Or they could have added the two move controllers required to buy the fight game, which means you have to buy an additional Move controller ($50) so one person has two of the move controllers, and then 2 more Move controllers at $50 each (another $100), on top of the price of the game and the Kinect bundle. then the navigation controllers for games that would need those.

I think the point is, other than the games, you just pay the one time fee for Kinect. To get the full experience out of Kinect for fitness games, sports games, etc, you don't need to buy all those accessories. It's beginning to get rather confusing actually.

If you want 2 or more players for the full experience on Kinect, you just need Kinect. If you want the full experience on Move or Wii for two or more players, you will need to start adding up accessories for each and every person.

Either way, the Move and Kinect are expensive no matter what way it's sliced.

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That isn't fair.

They would have to include Ubisoft's Fitness game or similar.

Um why? Both the PS3 Move and Wii Fit come with games included? Because it's not a fitness workout game on Kinect your body knows not to exercise? :blink: Please, where's the reason in that logic...honesty...

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And that has to do with this how?

I don't think Kinect will take off with this pricing and neither will the move. They should have just saved this stuff for the next generation.

^ completely unrelated.

This isn't your ordinary "add-on launch", because all 3 are gunning for the same market, with another competitor also joining with their own new product.

Failed add-ons?

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/facepalm

The add-on never failed with HD DVD, the tech did. And to be more precise, it wasn't the tech that even failed it, it was the politics and marketing crap.

Motion controls have already proved a hit. It's called Wii (Y)

@AB, never said it wasn't going to be $150, I just said wait for an official announcement. Not my fault people can't get their head around that.

As for pricing:

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Just like I've been saying all along since E3. Move is even more if you're a new owner buying their first PS3 to boot

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/facepalm

The add-on never failed with HD DVD, the tech did. And to be more precise, it wasn't the tech that even failed it, it was the politics and marketing crap.

Motion controls have already proved a hit. It's called Wii (Y)

Your right, the HD-DVD add-on was a blazing success! You're arguing semantics, the HD-DVD add-on failed. It's an apt comparison.

And motion controls have been proven a gimmick. It's called the Wii in 2010.

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$99 for the Move bundle isn't too bad though, especially after seeing the price of the Kinect.

It is pretty bad, because that price only lets you play only certain Move games, and only one person :(. Kinect works for all Kinect only games and all Xbox 360 retail games that have Kinect support for more than just one person. It's $210 for Move for two people to support all games.

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Your right, the HD-DVD add-on was a blazing success! You're arguing semantics, the HD-DVD add-on failed. It's an apt comparison.

And motion controls have been proven a gimmick. It's called the Wii in 2010.

Whether or not is a gimmick doesn't change the fact it sells, and sells VERY well. Your comparison would be valid if the Wii had died since, as Munky said it was the tech that failed which in-turn forced the add on to fail.

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Your right, the HD-DVD add-on was a blazing success! You're arguing semantics, the HD-DVD add-on failed. It's an apt comparison.

And motion controls have been proven a gimmick. It's called the Wii in 2010.

Your logic is dumbfounding :blink:

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Whether or not is a gimmick doesn't change the fact it sells, and sells VERY well. Your comparison would be valid if the Wii had died since, as Munky said it was the tech that failed which in-turn forced the add on to fail.

DrunkMonkey said that motion control was a ?hit?. This may have been true a few years ago, but the Wii craze has ended and games supporting motion control (and the Wii in general) have wained.

The HD-DVD add-on was an apt comparison because it has failed and it?s entirely possible for the same to happen to Kinect. You?re really over thinking the comparison.

Your logic is dumbfounding :blink:

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Um why? Both the PS3 Move and Wii Fit come with games included? Because it's not a fitness workout game on Kinect your body knows not to exercise? :blink: Please, where's the reason in that logic...honesty...

Simple. In that photo, you see the Wii comes with two separate games: Wii Sports and Wii Fit. Microsoft's title is the "equivalent" to Wii Sports (not really), so where is the Ubisoft game to match Wii Fit's game?

As cool as Kinect is and as much as I want it, I could purchase about 3 full-retail games for the same price. Until it's below $99 (and still comes with a game), I'm not interested in it.

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DrunkMonkey said that motion control was a ?hit?. This may have been true a few years ago, but the Wii craze has ended and games supporting motion control (and the Wii in general) have wained.

The HD-DVD add-on was an apt comparison because it has failed and it?s entirely possible for the same to happen to Kinect. You?re really over thinking the comparison.

:p

Your logic is flawed. With such reasoning, anything that has failed would be comparable. But that isn't the case. The HD-DVD player relied on the continued production of HD-DVD movies which relied on the continued creation of the standalone HD-DVD player. But, the format died and therefore the lifeline of the player died. If it was a failure in its own right I'm sure the peripheral would have failed before the format, but it didn't. Second, you are entirely wrong about motion games dying off. In fact, just the opposite. The fact that MS and Sony are even making peripherals to the same extent prove that notion. But you can believe what you want. Facts show different.

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Simple. In that photo, you see the Wii comes with two separate games: Wii Sports and Wii Fit. Microsoft's title is the "equivalent" to Wii Sports (not really), so where is the Ubisoft game to match Wii Fit's game?

ok so remove the Wii from the comparison and keep it Move vs Kinect.

Is it even possible to buy the balance board solo? Afaik it's not, so the comparison with the Wii can't be conducted any other way. Not MS's fault they don't sell it solo.

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It is pretty bad, because that price only lets you play only certain Move games, and only one person :(. Kinect works for all Kinect only games and all Xbox 360 retail games that have Kinect support for more than just one person. It's $210 for Move for two people to support all games.

Supposedly Kinect is limited to 2 players. :/

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No one cares about Move. :p

And yeah, on eBay.

Great argument (N)

I'll just buy Kinect on eBay for a huge bargain and call it a day on this price issue then. Awesome.

Supposedly Kinect is limited to 2 players. :/

https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/915532-official-kinect-price-revealed/page__view__findpost__p__592932376

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Great argument (N)

I'll just buy Kinect on eBay for a huge bargain and call it a day on this price issue then. Awesome.

http://www.neowin.ne...t__p__592932376

I wasn't continuing the argument? Let me continue it now. Wii Balance Board comes with either Wii Fit or Wii Fit Plus bundled. There is no other option. It's $100, so Microsoft's picture is correct. What we're talking about is Microsoft's own pricing is incorrect, as they only come with one game, while Nintendo's comes with two. I'm not sure what the problem is.

Kinect is overpriced. That's my opinion, and I'm going to make sure to point that opinion to Microsoft when I refuse to buy Kinect until it's under $99.

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What about this picture? Again with The Wii, they are incorrect. Why does the Wii need a $100 add-on? Again, if they are going to add that, why don't they add a fitness game to their own? And another thing they are technically missing is a $20 WiiMotionPlus add-on forthe second player. So let's remove the stupid Balance Board and add the price of Wii Motion Plus for a second player be able to have full motion control.

$200 + 40 + 20 + 20 = $280.

Now in terms of Move, Sony announced a $399 console, so Microsoft is 100% correct in having the "true" Move 2-player setup. That is the cheapest you're going to get.

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