ViperAFK Posted July 21, 2010 Share Posted July 21, 2010 I am going to reserve judgment until ie9 comes out and I use it. Based on what we've seen so far with the platform previews it will be significantly faster than ie8 but not faster than chrome/opera/safari. It may be faster in some areas with its new graphics acceleration though. In real world usage the speed differences aren't really noticeable at all unless you are using super JS heavy web apps. I am more excited to see what they do with IE9's UI. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/922206-ie9-will-be-faster-and-safer-than-firefox-chrome-opera-safari/page/4/#findComment-592938778 Share on other sites More sharing options...
winlonghorn Posted July 21, 2010 Share Posted July 21, 2010 if ur a web designer than u will hate ie also at the same time, they are changing that with their standards compliance. lol. give them more of a chance. :) Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/922206-ie9-will-be-faster-and-safer-than-firefox-chrome-opera-safari/page/4/#findComment-592938826 Share on other sites More sharing options...
argonite Posted July 21, 2010 Share Posted July 21, 2010 Switching browsers is easy (except Chrome -> anything else). If I like IE 9 more when it comes out, I'll change to it! Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/922206-ie9-will-be-faster-and-safer-than-firefox-chrome-opera-safari/page/4/#findComment-592938898 Share on other sites More sharing options...
pers3us Posted July 21, 2010 Share Posted July 21, 2010 Seriously, reading some of the replies in this thread; it seems people hate Internet Explorer because it's Internet Explorer. Historically, it hasn't been fantastic, and it has been in more recent years eclipsed by Firefox and Chrome, but IE9 is the fastest and most secure browser there, choosing not to use it because it's IE is just, well, ridiculous. And seriously, stuff like 'hate', for an internet browser? That's some pretty strong emotions there. It's not like IE ran over your dog or something. Keep an open mind guys. Its IE guys, why bother! :laugh: :devil: Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/922206-ie9-will-be-faster-and-safer-than-firefox-chrome-opera-safari/page/4/#findComment-592939036 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Growled Member Posted July 22, 2010 Member Share Posted July 22, 2010 I am going to reserve judgment until ie9 comes out and I use it. Based on what we've seen so far with the platform previews it will be significantly faster than ie8 but not faster than chrome/opera/safari. It may be In real world usage the speed differences aren't really noticeable at all unless you are using super JS heavy web apps. I am more excited to see what they do with IE9's UI. Exactly. It really boils down to personal preferences. I use them all, including IE, and they are all basically the same speed overall. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/922206-ie9-will-be-faster-and-safer-than-firefox-chrome-opera-safari/page/4/#findComment-592940096 Share on other sites More sharing options...
George P Global Moderator Posted July 22, 2010 Global Moderator Share Posted July 22, 2010 Saying Opera 10.6 if faster than Chrome 6 at this time in what? SunSpider? One benchmark does not the world make, we could just as well be debating who passes the Acid 3 test faster as well. You do know that both Opera and Chrome are just tweaking the hell out of their JS engines in order to leapfrog each other in SunSpider right? I mean, it's just specific to that one test, and the IE team hasn't done any of that sorta sunspider specific tweaking yet (they said as such a few times). The point is that, if you only look at one test as the "defacto" one, then all devs have to do is tweak to hell for that specific test and then boast about how they're the fastest. None of that is really "real world" you could say, so the scores are really started to matter less and less IMO. It's like the GPU makers tweaking their drivers to give them boosts for specific games over others, or even specific tests (futuremark etc). Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/922206-ie9-will-be-faster-and-safer-than-firefox-chrome-opera-safari/page/4/#findComment-592940328 Share on other sites More sharing options...
PreKe Posted September 3, 2010 Share Posted September 3, 2010 Saying Opera 10.6 if faster than Chrome 6 at this time in what? SunSpider? At the time, SunSpider and Peacekeeper, IIRC. Anyway, now Mozilla is claiming that Firefox 4 "will be the fastest". Crazy stuff. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/922206-ie9-will-be-faster-and-safer-than-firefox-chrome-opera-safari/page/4/#findComment-593106300 Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Decryptor Veteran Posted September 3, 2010 Veteran Share Posted September 3, 2010 Microsoft and Mozilla are working on a real world benchmark suite, so Microsoft at least would be focusing on that. Mozilla's still optimising around V8/SunSpider, but they're also doing it against other resource heavy JS scripts (like a NES emulator, or a fluid simulator, etc.) Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/922206-ie9-will-be-faster-and-safer-than-firefox-chrome-opera-safari/page/4/#findComment-593106326 Share on other sites More sharing options...
wellofsouls Posted September 3, 2010 Share Posted September 3, 2010 I disagree with this, it seems IE constantly needs security patches, Chrome's sandbox seems to be more secure. if you read the Chrome update changelogs, you'd realize that Chrome constantly needs security patches too. Also Chrome's sandbox is not really any better than IE8's protected mode (which is a sandbox too), provided you are on Win7. if comparing Chrome to IE8 on Win7, I can see the claim of IE8 being the more secure browser having some merit. however, for IE9, despite it being fastest on the IE9 test drive demos with its hardware acceleration, still sucks at Peacekeeper. I kinda wonder why... Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/922206-ie9-will-be-faster-and-safer-than-firefox-chrome-opera-safari/page/4/#findComment-593106666 Share on other sites More sharing options...
iwod Posted September 3, 2010 Share Posted September 3, 2010 Seriously, reading some of the replies in this thread; it seems people hate Internet Explorer because it's Internet Explorer. Historically, it hasn't been fantastic, and it has been in more recent years eclipsed by Firefox and Chrome, but IE9 is the fastest and most secure browser there, choosing not to use it because it's IE is just, well, ridiculous. And seriously, stuff like 'hate', for an internet browser? That's some pretty strong emotions there. It's not like IE ran over your dog or something. Keep an open mind guys. If you have done any sort of Web Developement then you have every right to hate IE. most safest?? I cant trust a guy who cant get his grammar right. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/922206-ie9-will-be-faster-and-safer-than-firefox-chrome-opera-safari/page/4/#findComment-593106832 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Subject Delta Posted September 3, 2010 Share Posted September 3, 2010 Seriously, reading some of the replies in this thread; it seems people hate Internet Explorer because it's Internet Explorer. Historically, it hasn't been fantastic, and it has been in more recent years eclipsed by Firefox and Chrome, but IE9 is the fastest and most secure browser there, choosing not to use it because it's IE is just, well, ridiculous. And seriously, stuff like 'hate', for an internet browser? That's some pretty strong emotions there. It's not like IE ran over your dog or something. Keep an open mind guys. Seriously? (And these figures don't account for Chrome 7 which is even faster still) IE9's GPU rendering modes are faster because those of Chrome and Firefox are still in development, but in overall performance, it's competitors still have a large lead Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/922206-ie9-will-be-faster-and-safer-than-firefox-chrome-opera-safari/page/4/#findComment-593106846 Share on other sites More sharing options...
insanelyapple Posted September 3, 2010 Share Posted September 3, 2010 Its nothing else than "propaganda of success" yawn. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/922206-ie9-will-be-faster-and-safer-than-firefox-chrome-opera-safari/page/4/#findComment-593106854 Share on other sites More sharing options...
+bomberh Subscriber² Posted September 3, 2010 Subscriber² Share Posted September 3, 2010 I will give it a go when it is released :) Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/922206-ie9-will-be-faster-and-safer-than-firefox-chrome-opera-safari/page/4/#findComment-593106858 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kirkburn Posted September 3, 2010 Share Posted September 3, 2010 Seriously? (And these figures don't account for Chrome 7 which is even faster still) IE9's GPU rendering modes are faster because those of Chrome and Firefox are still in development, but in overall performance, it's competitors still have a large lead Which version of the IE9 preview was that? Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/922206-ie9-will-be-faster-and-safer-than-firefox-chrome-opera-safari/page/4/#findComment-593107094 Share on other sites More sharing options...
PreKe Posted September 3, 2010 Share Posted September 3, 2010 Wow, I didn't know Opera was still ahead of Chrome. I would have thought that Chrome would be well ahead of Opera by now in the performance department. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/922206-ie9-will-be-faster-and-safer-than-firefox-chrome-opera-safari/page/4/#findComment-593107224 Share on other sites More sharing options...
wellofsouls Posted September 3, 2010 Share Posted September 3, 2010 Wow, I didn't know Opera was still ahead of Chrome. I would have thought that Chrome would be well ahead of Opera by now in the performance department. they are neck on neck, with different systems, you may see Opera or Chrome leading the race, both are getting faster and faster consistently. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/922206-ie9-will-be-faster-and-safer-than-firefox-chrome-opera-safari/page/4/#findComment-593107254 Share on other sites More sharing options...
thealexweb Posted September 3, 2010 Share Posted September 3, 2010 I.E's security problem is and always is that Microsoft doesn't like issuing out of band security patches so Microsoft will usually only patch a security hole at the start of a month. Mozilla for instance would patch a hole as soon as they can. So I.E. is exposed to vulnerabilities for longer. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/922206-ie9-will-be-faster-and-safer-than-firefox-chrome-opera-safari/page/4/#findComment-593107264 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elliott Posted September 3, 2010 Share Posted September 3, 2010 they are neck on neck, with different systems, you may see Opera or Chrome leading the race, both are getting faster and faster consistently. That's also a comparison of the stable Chrome version vs. a pre-release of Opera. :p Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/922206-ie9-will-be-faster-and-safer-than-firefox-chrome-opera-safari/page/4/#findComment-593107268 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Solid Knight Posted September 3, 2010 Share Posted September 3, 2010 Well.. ?Adolf Hitler , Mein Kampf, vol. I, ch. X Hitler was well known for raging about software. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/922206-ie9-will-be-faster-and-safer-than-firefox-chrome-opera-safari/page/4/#findComment-593107340 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Subject Delta Posted September 3, 2010 Share Posted September 3, 2010 Which version of the IE9 preview was that? 4, The last one released Wow, I didn't know Opera was still ahead of Chrome. I would have thought that Chrome would be well ahead of Opera by now in the performance department. To be honest, it's close enough to be within the margin of error, the performance of the 2 is very similar, in real world usage though, I find Chrome's cache management to be a bit better That's also a comparison of the stable Chrome version vs. a pre-release of Opera. :p 10.6 and 10.7 are about the same in performance terms so it doesn't make an awful lot of difference to be honest Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/922206-ie9-will-be-faster-and-safer-than-firefox-chrome-opera-safari/page/4/#findComment-593108810 Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluefisch200 Posted September 3, 2010 Share Posted September 3, 2010 I disagree with this, it seems IE constantly needs security patches, Chrome's sandbox seems to be more secure. And IE doesn't run in a Sandbox...oh wait... Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/922206-ie9-will-be-faster-and-safer-than-firefox-chrome-opera-safari/page/4/#findComment-593108832 Share on other sites More sharing options...
LaP Posted September 3, 2010 Share Posted September 3, 2010 but IE9 is the fastest and most secure browser there, Faster than what ? Browsers already released or in beta state ? You do realise that by the time IE 9 will be relased new browsers will be out to compete against it. it's not like IE 9 will be released next week. Firefox team has lot of time to polish 4. Google will probably has the time to release 2 new versions of Chrome at this rate ... Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/922206-ie9-will-be-faster-and-safer-than-firefox-chrome-opera-safari/page/4/#findComment-593108834 Share on other sites More sharing options...
TDT Posted September 3, 2010 Share Posted September 3, 2010 I'm actually betting on MS this time. I like Chrome, it's my only browser, I hate FF because it takes much longer to start and it's a memory hog, but I really feel MS will do very well with IE9. They're attitude has changed in so many ways, and they're doing many good things (Windows 7, Bing, Windows Phone, etc.) lately. They won't go wrong with IE9, and yes, I dare to say that this will be a serious problem for other browser developers. :) Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/922206-ie9-will-be-faster-and-safer-than-firefox-chrome-opera-safari/page/4/#findComment-593108856 Share on other sites More sharing options...
torrentthief Posted September 3, 2010 Share Posted September 3, 2010 IE9 final won't be out for months, i'm sure there will be 2 or more public beta's, they won't just bugfix they will certainly improve performance during that time, IE9 won't be faster than chrome7 final but as long as its of a similar speed to firefox 4 final i'll be happy. Features and standards support is more important than speed. IE9 still has got a LONG way to go in regards to html5 standards support, their benchmarks and tables of supported features are heavily biased and in reality are the lowest of the modern browsers, they have several months to fix this though so i'm not that worried. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/922206-ie9-will-be-faster-and-safer-than-firefox-chrome-opera-safari/page/4/#findComment-593108858 Share on other sites More sharing options...
bjoswald Posted September 3, 2010 Share Posted September 3, 2010 I love Chrome so much that it'll take a ****ing miracle to convince me to switch. Especially from Microsoft. Their track record (excluding Windows 7) has to be one of the worst in the industry to me, especially with that loudmouthed hothead Ballmer. I lost all hope for Firefox since 3.6. It's still a decent browser, but it's behind-the-times and slow. I have tried the latest betas, and it's still slower than Chrome. Plus, it takes longer to start and I hate having to depend on extensions for functionality that Chrome made standard (searching from the address bar, better form auto-fill, etc). As with IE, Mozilla is pretty much dead-in-the-water unless they can come up with something revolutionary. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/922206-ie9-will-be-faster-and-safer-than-firefox-chrome-opera-safari/page/4/#findComment-593108874 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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