Google Responds To Jobs

[techbeck]

Last month, Eric Schmidt announced that 200,000 Android devices were being activated everyday and Mr. Jobs here takes an obvious jab at Google’s numbers. During the event, Jobs announced that:

We think some of our friends are counting upgrades in their numbers

Google quickly responded by saying:

The Android activation numbers do not include upgrades and are, in fact, only a portion of the Android devices in the market since we only include devices that have Google services.

We all know that Jobs likes to run his mouth, which we figured he would learn his lesson after the whole “antennagate” debacle where he reported Android devices suffered the same issue when you held the device a certain way.

He continued to take a few more jabs at Google when he was talking about Apple TV stating that people wanted Hollywood blockbusters and high-end television shows and not “amateur hour.” What ever jabs he feels necessary to help him sleep at night, but it’s clear inside he’s feeling very threatened by Google and the Android OS.

http://androidspin.com/2010/09/02/google-responds-to-jobs-device-activations-comment/

Apple's MO..cannot beat them or feel threatened...then bash the competition!!

[Elliott]

His jab was certainly unwarranted (and I really don't care about the numbers), but I think 230,000 still beats 200,000.

Also, about the "portion of Android devices" part (and this is just an honest question): what popular Android device doesn't come with Google's services?

[techbeck]

His jab was certainly unwarranted (and I really don't care about the numbers), but I think 230,000 still beats 200,000.

Also, about the "portion of Android devices" part (and this is just an honest question): what popular Android phone doesn't come with Google's services?

MP3 players for one...or you can read here

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Android_devices

and yes, 230k beats 200k...but considering how long Android has been around compared to the iPhone...thats pretty impressive.

And Jobs is a DB. If his products were so great, they should sell on their own...not saying inaccurate things and bashing others.

[Duality]

His jab was certainly unwarranted (and I really don't care about the numbers), but I think 230,000 still beats 200,000.

Also, about the "portion of Android devices" part (and this is just an honest question): what popular Android phone doesn't come with Google's services?

Some vendors have made large changes to the stock Android install - I think there was one major US network that removed something-or-other from their android phones and caused quite a furore over it. That might be what they are referring to. Then again, on first boot there is an option to send usage metrics (I think) to Google. I would expect most would uncheck that - the numbers may only count those that do not uncheck the box. I am only guessing, however.

[Vice]

Also, about the "portion of Android devices" part (and this is just an honest question): what popular Android device doesn't come with Google's services?

Those cheap Chinese knockoffs of iPhones of course :laugh: No Google services on those.

[Quillz]

BREAKING NEWS: Steve Jobs exaggerates. More at 11.

[techbeck]

Those cheap Chinese knockoffs of iPhones of course :laugh: No Google services on those.

MP3 players for one...or you can read here

http://en.wikipedia....Android_devices

[rajputwarrior]

and yes, 230k beats 200k...but considering how long Android has been around compared to the iPhone...thats pretty impressive.

but then again there is how many androids phones out there against 2 iphone models?

[Elliott]

MP3 players for one...or you can read here

http://en.wikipedia....Android_devices

Yea, but seriously, how popular are those? They're probably a small blip on the Android radar. I've personally never even seen one.

and yes, 230k beats 200k...but considering how long Android has been around compared to the iPhone...thats pretty impressive.

Not really when you consider the proliferation of Android devices vs. 3 iOS devices.

[techbeck]

but then again there is how many androids phones out there against 2 iphone models?

Not this argument again. And thats Apples dumbass fault for limiting the phone to one carrier for so long. Android did what MS did back in the day...took what Apple did, make their own, and then opened it up for many different manufacturers and developers.

Yea, but seriously, how popular are those? They're probably a small blip on the Android radar. I've personally never even seen one.

Never said they were popular...question was asked, I answered. I have never seen an android MP3 player or e-reader either. But then again, I have not been looking for one.

[Elliott]

Not this argument again. And thats Apples dumbass fault for limiting the phone to one carrier for so long. Android did what MS did back in the day...took what Apple did, make their own, and then opened it up for many different manufacturers and developers.

We weren't debating that, but generally the argument is used the other way around (when Android beats iOS at something). In this scenario, it's actually just kind of surprising.

Never said they were popular...question was asked, I answered. I have never seen an android MP3 player or e-reader either. But then again, I have not been looking for one.

Well, I specifically asked about popular devices. That's all. :p

[shakey]

Wait, why is anyone defending Jobs and his horrible tactics?

[techbeck]

Well, I specifically asked about popular devices. That's all. :p

Well excuuuuuse me!!...haha :p

Wait, why is anyone defending Jobs and his horrible tactics?

Who is defending jobs? Did I miss something?

[Julius Caro]

His jab was certainly unwarranted (and I really don't care about the numbers), but I think 230,000 still beats 200,000.

Also, about the "portion of Android devices" part (and this is just an honest question): what popular Android device doesn't come with Google's services?

Not sure if "Popular", but there A LOT of android devices that don't come with the google services. Especially carrier-branded ones.

[Darrian]

Never said they were popular...question was asked, I answered. I have never seen an android MP3 player or e-reader either. But then again, I have not been looking for one.

Really? Because nooks run android and I'm sure you've probably at least heard of them.

[DanLeto]

Yet another reason not to buy anything with a fruit on it :)

[Elliott]

Really? Because nooks run android and I'm sure you've probably at least heard of them.

Ah! Very true! You kind of forget because it looks nothing like Android. :p Then again, I've never seen a Nook in real life (I have seen a few Kindles), but I know they're semi-popular.

[Darrian]

Yeah, I really probably never would have known if I hadn't rooted mine :)

[Xilo]

Edit: Someone beat me to it.

[rajputwarrior]

Not this argument again. And thats Apples dumbass fault for limiting the phone to one carrier for so long. Android did what MS did back in the day...took what Apple did, make their own, and then opened it up for many different manufacturers and developers.

my bad for stating facts... :rolleyes:

[techbeck]

Really? Because nooks run android and I'm sure you've probably at least heard of them.

Forgot about nook. I know Creative has some MP3 players I forgot about to. They are easily overlooked since you dont hear a lot about them.

my bad for stating facts... :rolleyes:

Its the only defense Apple has ATM. I am sure Apple will get more sales when its released on Verizon, but Androids plan is to not out sale or beat Apple. Google even released a statement a while back saying that. People think that more sales and most popular means better...thats not the case really...sometimes it is...and sometimes its not.

And remember...Apple chooses to be closed off...limited...and authoritative...their weigh or the high way. Apparently lots of people like to be told what to do. People choose Apple like they choose Windows. They were the first with something, people get set in and think its the best. Was the case at one time, not anymore.

[Growled Member]

I'm not so sure what Jobs is so defensive about these days. I mean, Apple makes a ton of money on what they sell. So what if Android sells more? Apple makes more money from their sales.

[Elliott]

I'm not so sure what Jobs is so defensive about these days. I mean, Apple makes a ton of money on what they sell. So what if Android sells more? Apple makes more money from their sales.

It's basically talk to assuage the shareholders.

[rajputwarrior]

Its the only defense Apple has ATM. I am sure Apple will get more sales when its released on Verizon, but Androids plan is to not out sale or beat Apple. Google even released a statement a while back saying that. People think that more sales and most popular means better...thats not the case really...sometimes it is...and sometimes its not.

And remember...Apple chooses to be closed off...limited...and authoritative...their weigh or the high way. Apparently lots of people like to be told what to do. People choose Apple like they choose Windows. They were the first with something, people get set in and think its the best. Was the case at one time, not anymore.

And you are right, apple choses that. They always have. The biggest reason for that? It's because apple see's themselves as a hardware company and the software they have helps them sell said hardware. Clearly what they are doing is working. Their app store is a gold mine.

I love android phones too, I would have one in a heartbeat if they had a better or a competive media player to iphones ipod app. My perfect phone would be an android that has the ipod app on it.