Ironman273 Posted September 3, 2010 Share Posted September 3, 2010 Pachter predicts $100 'Platinum' Xbox Live membershipby David Hinkle on Sep 2nd 2010 9:30PM The bump in cost for a Gold membership on Xbox Live is just the tip of the iceberg, according to game industry seer Michael Pachter. Predicting a $100 plan as the next evolutionary step in subscription options soon to be available to Xbox Live consumers, he told IndustryGamers reports that while the initial extra $10 "translates to around $100 to 150 million per year in additional revenue for Microsoft," the company will "reinvest at least this much in developing other new applications, and will roll out a premium service with $100 to 200 million worth of enhancements. If they can get 2 million users to switch from the $60 plan to the $100 plan, they'll make an extra $80 million a year, and can keep investing to try to grow that business." It makes sense: Xbox Live is easily one of the biggest draws of the console and consumers have already shown they're willing to pay a premium for it. But even if Microsoft were to offer a "Platinum" service, what could justify what is comparably such a heftier price tag? "For all I know, the Platinum plan might include virtual goods credits for various Microsoft games," Pachter posits. "If members could get specialized Halo armor or weapons worth the extra $40, they might be more willing to sign up, and it doesn't really cost Microsoft anything to offer things like that." You know what? We may know a few people willing to pay for something like that. Source: Joystiq Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/934950-pachter-predicts-100-platinum-xbox-live-membership/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
LightShadow Posted September 3, 2010 Share Posted September 3, 2010 Just money-making... This is one reason why I don't have an Xbox, why do I want to pay for all these online features... Just pointless to me. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/934950-pachter-predicts-100-platinum-xbox-live-membership/#findComment-593105720 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ayepecks Posted September 3, 2010 Share Posted September 3, 2010 It's Pachter... com'n. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/934950-pachter-predicts-100-platinum-xbox-live-membership/#findComment-593105730 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yusuf M. Veteran Posted September 3, 2010 Veteran Share Posted September 3, 2010 Special 'Platinum-only' game items would fracture the community. If anything, it would have to be a purely cosmetic change (e.g. skins for weapons and armour). Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/934950-pachter-predicts-100-platinum-xbox-live-membership/#findComment-593105736 Share on other sites More sharing options...
.Markus Posted September 3, 2010 Share Posted September 3, 2010 Can't see myself spending such an amount of money purely for online entertainment. The Gold membership is just about enough to fork out for someone that's just casually playing like myself.. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/934950-pachter-predicts-100-platinum-xbox-live-membership/#findComment-593105744 Share on other sites More sharing options...
BajiRav Posted September 3, 2010 Share Posted September 3, 2010 It's Pachter... com'n. well I think he predicted the $60 XBL a few months ago, didn't he? Hmm it seems this Patcher brings bad luck to us :D Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/934950-pachter-predicts-100-platinum-xbox-live-membership/#findComment-593105776 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ayepecks Posted September 3, 2010 Share Posted September 3, 2010 well I think he predicted the $60 XBL a few months ago, didn't he? Hmm it seems this Patcher brings bad luck to us :D No, he never predicted that (as far as I know, feel free to correct me if I'm wrong; a quick Google search said no). He's been predicting $100 Xbox Live for over a year, though. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/934950-pachter-predicts-100-platinum-xbox-live-membership/#findComment-593105866 Share on other sites More sharing options...
spenser.d Posted September 3, 2010 Share Posted September 3, 2010 I've got a prediction: Pachter is a dumbass. Microsoft isn't retarded. They're increasing Live to $60 because people will pay for it. There's no market for a $100 Live service. It wouldn't be worth their time. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/934950-pachter-predicts-100-platinum-xbox-live-membership/#findComment-593106102 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Gibs Posted September 3, 2010 Share Posted September 3, 2010 I've got a prediction: Pachter is a dumbass. Microsoft isn't retarded. They're increasing Live to 460 because people will pay for it. There's no market for a $100 Live service. It wouldn't be worth their time. You never know. Activision proved that 20 million+ people didn't mind shelling out $15 for 3 rehashed maps, twice. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/934950-pachter-predicts-100-platinum-xbox-live-membership/#findComment-593106120 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Berserk87 Posted September 3, 2010 Share Posted September 3, 2010 If it was $100/year and came with more than $40 worth of xbox live points with it and some exclusive avatars and some features, I would probably buy it. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/934950-pachter-predicts-100-platinum-xbox-live-membership/#findComment-593106142 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Motoko. Posted September 3, 2010 Share Posted September 3, 2010 Is this guy even credible? 100 dollars is allot Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/934950-pachter-predicts-100-platinum-xbox-live-membership/#findComment-593106146 Share on other sites More sharing options...
bob_c_b Posted September 3, 2010 Share Posted September 3, 2010 I'd like to see just how often Pachter has been correct about stuff, he gots a lot of play on gaming sites but I'll bet his ratio is pretty bad. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/934950-pachter-predicts-100-platinum-xbox-live-membership/#findComment-593106930 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hedon Posted September 3, 2010 Share Posted September 3, 2010 I would be happy to pay $100 a year if they could filter the system, allowing us to play with certain age groups. I would like to be lumped in with 30+. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/934950-pachter-predicts-100-platinum-xbox-live-membership/#findComment-593106948 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard Hammond Posted September 3, 2010 Share Posted September 3, 2010 I predict Pachter pulls information out of his arse, what do i win. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/934950-pachter-predicts-100-platinum-xbox-live-membership/#findComment-593106954 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Massiveterra Posted September 3, 2010 Share Posted September 3, 2010 The only times Pachter is relevant is when he accidentally breaks Non Disclosure Agreements on the Bonus Round Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/934950-pachter-predicts-100-platinum-xbox-live-membership/#findComment-593107344 Share on other sites More sharing options...
bob_c_b Posted September 3, 2010 Share Posted September 3, 2010 Pachter's funniest moment, right after E3 when he called the PSPGO a rip off, then realized he was biting the hand that feeds and tried to spin it. Otherwise he is usually pretty far off from reality. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/934950-pachter-predicts-100-platinum-xbox-live-membership/#findComment-593107858 Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrunknMunky Veteran Posted September 4, 2010 Veteran Share Posted September 4, 2010 I love Pachter :wub: Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/934950-pachter-predicts-100-platinum-xbox-live-membership/#findComment-593110430 Share on other sites More sharing options...
episode Posted September 4, 2010 Share Posted September 4, 2010 I've got a prediction: Pachter is a dumbass. Microsoft isn't retarded. They're increasing Live to $60 because people will pay for it. There's no market for a $100 Live service. It wouldn't be worth their time. Please post your market research. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/934950-pachter-predicts-100-platinum-xbox-live-membership/#findComment-593110456 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ayepecks Posted September 4, 2010 Share Posted September 4, 2010 Please post your market research. I'd like to see Pachter post his. He analyzes trends, and there are no trends that say anything about a $100 Xbox Live service. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/934950-pachter-predicts-100-platinum-xbox-live-membership/#findComment-593110978 Share on other sites More sharing options...
oceanmotion Posted September 4, 2010 Share Posted September 4, 2010 I wonder how far MS could push it. The defenders say it's only $0.83 extra a month with the new $60 price. What's so bad with an $1.66 extra a month at $70 or $2.49 extra a month at $80. I think a lot of people will still stump up to play online, that's pretty much the only reason people pay anyway. MS could chuck in a few more useless fluff apps, maybe a discount here and there. Too easy /o\ Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/934950-pachter-predicts-100-platinum-xbox-live-membership/#findComment-593110994 Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Teej Posted September 4, 2010 Share Posted September 4, 2010 MS could include netflix/sky subscription, add in some extra streaming (i.e. spotify/pandora - with spotify's "unlimited service", or ITV/4OD player)), a fully fledged internet browser, and 400MS points a month for $100/?80 a year and they can really market it as a proper media entertainment device. Think about it, you'd have all of the extra stuff you'd want from your cable subscription, which you usually end up paying like ?20 a month for anyway. You'd end up paying ?5 for spotify (a month). That's already ?25. Times that by twelve, and you'd already way over twice the amount you'd pay for a platinum service. I personally think Microsoft could quite easily pull of a feat like that - I wouldn't mind chipping in a tenner each month for something like that (yes, I'd be paying ?120 a year, but who -really- calculates their finances like that, when you're always getting paid monthly?) Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/934950-pachter-predicts-100-platinum-xbox-live-membership/#findComment-593111014 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ayepecks Posted September 4, 2010 Share Posted September 4, 2010 Hey, if they added IPTV to the 360 and made a $100 subscription that included it, I'd buy it in a heartbeat. Now that would be worth it. But unless they're adding MS points to the equation (that equals the amount they increase it by or more), then I can't see any other option being worth it at the moment. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/934950-pachter-predicts-100-platinum-xbox-live-membership/#findComment-593111282 Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrunknMunky Veteran Posted September 5, 2010 Veteran Share Posted September 5, 2010 MS could include netflix/sky subscription, add in some extra streaming (i.e. spotify/pandora - with spotify's "unlimited service", or ITV/4OD player)), a fully fledged internet browser, and 400MS points a month for $100/?80 a year and they can really market it as a proper media entertainment device. Think about it, you'd have all of the extra stuff you'd want from your cable subscription, which you usually end up paying like ?20 a month for anyway. You'd end up paying ?5 for spotify (a month). That's already ?25. Times that by twelve, and you'd already way over twice the amount you'd pay for a platinum service. I personally think Microsoft could quite easily pull of a feat like that - I wouldn't mind chipping in a tenner each month for something like that (yes, I'd be paying ?120 a year, but who -really- calculates their finances like that, when you're always getting paid monthly?) Yup, if they ever created something like this, I'd sign up for it instantly. ?10 premium subsciption to Spotify each month is already ?120 a year. To have everything else thrown in is just a bonus! Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/934950-pachter-predicts-100-platinum-xbox-live-membership/#findComment-593114128 Share on other sites More sharing options...
spenser.d Posted September 5, 2010 Share Posted September 5, 2010 Please post your market research. I don't need to do market research, I can use common sense and the fact that Microsoft doesn't have any plans to start up a $100 service to figure these things out. Its not a viable option, the niche for that kind of service isn't large enough to make it worth it just yet. I don't mean to throw out any legitimate research if there is any, but given that Pachter doesn't have any himself, I don't feel too bad about making my own predictions. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/934950-pachter-predicts-100-platinum-xbox-live-membership/#findComment-593114202 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Viper550 Posted September 5, 2010 Share Posted September 5, 2010 Hey, if they added IPTV to the 360 and made a $100 subscription that included it, I'd buy it in a heartbeat. Now that would be worth it. But unless they're adding MS points to the equation (that equals the amount they increase it by or more), then I can't see any other option being worth it at the moment. Actually, Microsoft does offer IPTV for the 360, but only on IPTV systems that use their own Mediaroom software, and only on two providers right now; BT Vision in the UK, and Telus Optik TV in west-coast Canada. Though there are plans to introduce it on AT&T's U-Verse soon though. Heck to promote it, Telus has been giving away Xbox 360 S consoles to new internet/TV subscribers as an incentive. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/934950-pachter-predicts-100-platinum-xbox-live-membership/#findComment-593114214 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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