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Wow I love the font rendering. It's kind of like in between OS X and Cleartype.

On large type, it looks much nicer. On smaller type, it really seems to break down and get choppy. I'm really not sure why Microsoft has so much trouble with creating a proper font rendering engine.

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Does anyone know why is in Internet Options > Advanced > Enable software rendering instead of GPU option checked but also greyed out? It means that I cannot uncheck it.

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It's not the case here, I guess that your GPU isn't compatible. What is it?

Does anyone know how can you pin Hotmail to taskbar and make it to notify you when you have a new mail? I know it's possible.

Websites need to implement this feature, play the waiting game :)

Has anybody got the app for Bing working? On all the articles and things, I've seen people pin Bing to the taskbar and it provides jumplists and a decent icon. When I try to pin Bing, I don't get jumplists or a decent icon; also, the 'back' and 'forward' buttons don't look smooth at all. I've tried changing the location in Bing, but nothing seems to work. Seeing as I've seen others do it, I would have thought Bing have already added it?

On large type, it looks much nicer. On smaller type, it really seems to break down and get choppy. I'm really not sure why Microsoft has so much trouble with creating a proper font rendering engine.

I have to agree. I love the way Mac OS X displays fonts and I wish Microsoft would ensure they look just as nice on Windows. After adjusting my ClearType settings, the font in posts on Neowin looks beautiful, but in certain places (like the 'Attach This File' button and in many places on Facebook), the font doesn't look very nice; I suppose that could just be the font the websites use, rather than Microsoft's font rendering, but I'm not sure.

So if you can run Microsoft Word and Microsoft Excel on separate Windows instead of tabs, what's wrong with running Facebook.com and Neowin.net separately as well? What do they have in common that Word and Excel don't have?

IMO, It's just a matter of mind-set.

Honestly, my Opera browser I have like 40+ tabs, they're all just favicons, and I only have one neowin tab, there's a damn few sites that have more than one tab in fact.

on the other hand I don't mind the smaller tab area on IE9 either. it won't replace opera as my main browser, as I hate migrating my browser sessions, and opera works great. But even if I where to, I wouldn't mind, I'd still be able to fit all my favicons mostly. at most I'd have to clean up a little more often.

as for efficiency, working with this many tabs is far more efficient than opening new favorites all the time, or having my taskbar full of multiple browsers/app sites, or multiple browsers with multiple tabs per browser, then I'd first have to find out which browser windows had the tab sessions I was looking for, and when closing down, I'd have to open multiple sessions instead of just opening my one browser and have everything ready.

But IE9 will be a great secondary browser for me for some tasks, or for secondary session of time limited nature with wich I don't want to pollute my main browser window. like chrome which I use mostly for XDA tabs, and osme work tabs.

But those 17 and 9 tabs are of the same application. Think of websites as separate applications. IE9 doesn't take away tabbed browsing from you. You can still have 5-6 Facebook tabs open in the Facebook window, separate from the 5 tabs in the msdn.com window. It's just that the IE9 UI discourages the user to open those 12 tabs in the same window because they are functionally different.

BTW, if you argue that you may need to have 20 tabs open from the same website at the same time, then you are a super minority.

why on earth would you even have multiple facebook or msdn tabs open. that makes no sense. and having 20-30 separate sites as taskbar App sites make almost as little sense.

Well, I don't know about Facebook, but for MSDN it's perfectly natural since it's a reference site with pages that heavily reference other pages. You can easily end up with lots of them when you're working. Of course you don't have to, but I prefer that over navigating back and forth.

I agree with someone else on here who said that this being beta 1 MS left out a good chunk of things so they could get you to try out the new stuff (pinning tabs to the taskbar etc) and that more things will come back in beta 2 and so on. Either way it was working fine for me aside from that graphics bug with the popup menus that was very weird. I could see myself using it full time once they add back in other stuff they've taken out or that's missing, even things that are in IE8 for example.

I think IE9 is going to work well for me, mostly because I don't really open that many tabs up per browser window, so tab real estate isn't really an issue for me. I can see how it would bother people who general have loads of tabs, an old colleague of mine typically would have around 20-30 tabs open all day. I like the ability of tearing tabs away into new sessions too, it works well on Chrome, so it's a welcome addition to IE9 too.

I guess one of the big drawbacks (and I don't know if this is likely to change anytime soon) is that, although IE has had extensibility support since way back when, it isn't exactly easy to build an IE add-on without a bit of COM knowledge (correct me if I am wrong!). Chrome and Safari allowed you to build useful extensions from html, css and javascript and it works really well. I'm hoping that Microsoft follow suit and make it easier to create extensions.

OOoooo, Facebook notifications on the Taskbar are awesome!

Has anybody got the app for Bing working? On all the articles and things, I've seen people pin Bing to the taskbar and it provides jumplists and a decent icon. When I try to pin Bing, I don't get jumplists or a decent icon; also, the 'back' and 'forward' buttons don't look smooth at all. I've tried changing the location in Bing, but nothing seems to work. Seeing as I've seen others do it, I would have thought Bing have already added it?

I have to agree. I love the way Mac OS X displays fonts and I wish Microsoft would ensure they look just as nice on Windows. After adjusting my ClearType settings, the font in posts on Neowin looks beautiful, but in certain places (like the 'Attach This File' button and in many places on Facebook), the font doesn't look very nice; I suppose that could just be the font the websites use, rather than Microsoft's font rendering, but I'm not sure.

They said that the bing update wasn't released yet. It will be rolled out in the near future. :)

I think IE9 is going to work well for me, mostly because I don't really open that many tabs up per browser window, so tab real estate isn't really an issue for me. I can see how it would bother people who general have loads of tabs, an old colleague of mine typically would have around 20-30 tabs open all day. I like the ability of tearing tabs away into new sessions too, it works well on Chrome, so it's a welcome addition to IE9 too.

I guess one of the big drawbacks (and I don't know if this is likely to change anytime soon) is that, although IE has had extensibility support since way back when, it isn't exactly easy to build an IE add-on without a bit of COM knowledge (correct me if I am wrong!). Chrome and Safari allowed you to build useful extensions from html, css and javascript and it works really well. I'm hoping that Microsoft follow suit and make it easier to create extensions.

OOoooo, Facebook notifications on the Taskbar are awesome!

They could make it easier to do "extentions" if they worked off of SL for example. I think a system for that would be possible. Keep sending in feedback guys, the more the better.

Internet explorer has had addons for quite a while. IE7pro was a great one I used to use that gave ie7/8 stuff like adblock/mouse gestures/spellehcheck ect..

But for some reason people think IE addons don't exist.

Ya, I guess the difference is they're not as fancy as some of the stuff you can get on FF/Chrome maybe? Fancy in terms of looks and stuff, I dunno. I never got into the extention game, which is also why I had no problem ditching FF long ago.

They said that the bing update wasn't released yet. It will be rolled out in the near future. :)

Ah, thank you :) I didn't know whether that included the IE 'app' or whether it only covered the HTML 5 preview.

How about if Microsoft allowed people to create IE add-ons using the .NET framework? This works really well when creating add-ons for Office applications and it makes sense, to me, because people would then be able to be very imaginative with their extensions; also, as with Windows Phone 7, a lot of people should wish to create extensions for IE due to familiarity of the .NET framework. Just a thought.

Loving it so far but I cant seem to figure out how to Pin the "web apps" for twitter and facebook to my taskbar xP!

Just drag the tab from IE9 to your Superbar. It'll automatically create the app based off of the metadata in the site's HEAD area.

I rushed with the above conclusion...the adblock works only if I launch IE, but not on pinned sites. On those, the browser loads without the addon, even if it says that it's enabled. Weird...

there are other things about adblock pro that do not work correctly with 9 as well such as right-click block this image

Really liking that browser (uninstalled Chrome). Speedwise I notice no difference to Chrome, which does it for me, regardless of Chrome scoring a few points better in some speed tests. I have no problem with the reduced space for tabs as I simply open several browser windows. This is how IE9 is supposed to be used. My taskbar is full of links to favourite sites. However, I miss some sort of notification if e.g. I received new tweets in the twitter window. They should also reduce the unused space at the top of the window.

Is there an 'app' for the Windows Live services? Haven't found one. I mean something like the twitter app with jumplist to Skydrive, Hotmail, Calendar etc.

there are other things about adblock pro that do not work correctly with 9 as well such as right-click block this image

Get Ad Muncher. With it you can also switch off other annoyances like customized scrollbars.

I know it's by design, but I don't really like how the bottom few pixels of the large Forward button are cut off. They should have let the bottommost pixels overhang onto the Favorites bar, kind of like how the Start orb's bottommost pixels also overhang onto the Desktop.

Probably did it to give the impression that the space for the website is larger than it is. I like it.

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