Batman 3 "The Dark Knight Rises"


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I'd like to see how Nolan pulls of a "real" bane. (Eg teh venom going into his head.)

Why not a normal intravenous intake? Like heroin. Bane could be easily portrayed as an mercernary with a genious iq level hired by gotham's police to take down Batman. In fact that story arc was used in many Batman issues.

Could be... Though that would defeat the purpose of having anything attached to his head and that IMO would completely change the character

but for the better I would think...I really dont see how a man with pipes stuck to his head can work in nolans universe

Could be... Though that would defeat the purpose of having anything attached to his head and that IMO would completely change the character

I think Bane's character strenght lies in his past and how he is a "dark reflection" of Batman. Dont imagine a typical action movie mercenary, picture a very, VERY, troubled genius with a gun and muscles.

Hardy's cast as Bane is an indication of this kind of personality, I think. Have you seen Bronson? The movie he did before inception.

Yeah but altering how the characters looks is a bit too much imo. It's like having the batsuit without the cap or "ears"(spikes).

I see the point but think about how a man like that would fit in nolans gotham world, I can see a mercenary like mentioned who injects thus making it the pipe substitute

Im interested to see how they pull off Bane. Nolan's Batman has always been based in the real world. The villians haven't been super human or have some kind of powers. It's interesting to note that they announced Anne Hathaway as Selina Kyle without specifically mentioning her as Catwoman and Tom Hard as Bane with Nolan saying "I am delighted to be working with Tom again and excited to watch him bring to life our new interpretation of one of Batman's most formidable enemies.". This could mean that Nolan's taking the Catwoman character clear back to her roots and she won't be donning the catsuit. Bane is more interesting as he appeared in the 90's and busted up Batman pretty good.

I personally hope they do the Bane character justice and he's not a mindless hulk walking around behind Anne Hathaway yelling "Baaaaane" when she tells him to do things, a la Joel Schumacher's Batman & Robin. I'm excited for the film because the previous installments we're terrific and Ledger, whom a lot of people thought was miscast in The Dark Knight pulled off one of the best performances ever in my opinion. It will be interesting to see how these actors bring these characters to life.

I think Bane's character strenght lies in his past and how he is a "dark reflection" of Batman. Dont imagine a typical action movie mercenary, picture a very, VERY, troubled genius with a gun and muscles.

Hardy's cast as Bane is an indication of this kind of personality, I think. Have you seen Bronson? The movie he did before inception.

Yeah indeed, very VERY muscular in bronson. I guess it could work

I see the point but think about how a man like that would fit in nolans gotham world, I can see a mercenary like mentioned who injects thus making it the pipe substitute

Yeah I can see the substitute but I don't recall if the original bane was actually a junkie ie depended on what was injected to him, whereas as heroin addict is well... an addict.

I see the point but think about how a man like that would fit in nolans gotham world, I can see a mercenary like mentioned who injects thus making it the pipe substitute

The same logic could have been used for a character like Joker: a man in a purple suit, with green hair, white face paint and red lipstick. Yet he was included and done greatly. What's a science experiment in comparison?

Yeah I can see the substitute but I don't recall if the original bane was actually a junkie ie depended on what was injected to him, whereas as heroin addict is well... an addict.

He was addicted to it. I dont remember the comic series title but it was the one where batman helps bane to find his father's identity. Anyway, in that series its explained that bane was addicted to venom.

Great suit for catwoman. The one Michelle Pfeiffer wore was completely impractical.

I'd have to disagree on that. They even showed her making it in her apartment out of old clothes. Not really "impractical" to be honest.

I'd have to disagree on that. They even showed her making it in her apartment out of old clothes. Not really "impractical" to be honest.

Um, HIGHLY impractical. Yes, she made it, but the material prevented her from filming for more than a few minute at a time. not to mention that all that shine makes it really hard to blend into the night ;)

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