StrikedOut Posted November 12, 2010 Share Posted November 12, 2010 sorry but this sounds more like prison than home. forcing a child into something will make him not want to do it more. studying is an absolute ballache, all children hate it. no one should be TELLING him what to do. father should be sitting down with his son and working out a rota TOGETHER with both having an input, then all father should be doing is making sure he is sticking to it. This person is talking about kids aged 3 to 9, they have no idea what is best for them, only what they want. Not saying they should be ignored, not by a long shot but you are the parent and guide lines need to be set. Besides you missed the part below.... i have four children ages 9 down to 3. rewarding them for doing good in school or helping around the house makes them more willing to do more around the house or school. my kids earn their tv/computer time this way. it works amazingly well.. My 9 and 6 year old is in 4th and 1st grade and are acing almost every aspect of school right now. if your child is doing bad in his studies.... have a talk with him. if he is in his tween/teen years. his problems in school might be more than just facebook/msn getting in his way. have an honest and open relationship with your child. like i sad earlier...work with him rather than against him So what is being said is that the kids are rewarded for helping and working hard at school..... Sounds like a good plan to me. Also teaches them to respect the things they have and the work it takes to get these thing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Southern Patriot Posted November 12, 2010 Share Posted November 12, 2010 That's kind of ridiculous considering that good manners, politeness and understanding how to interact with other humans comes from being with them. Well, considering Deacon Brown's responses to people's advice in this thread, I really doubt his kid is going to be learning "good manners, politeness and understanding how to interact with other humans " from him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hellacool Posted November 12, 2010 Share Posted November 12, 2010 Well, considering Deacon Brown's responses to people's advice in this thread, I really doubt his kid is going to be learning "good manners, politeness and understanding how to interact with other humans " from him. Oh come on, no need to make things personal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrossCheck Posted November 12, 2010 Share Posted November 12, 2010 for those saying that he is arrogant or being a ****** for what the op is trying to do is totally in the wrong here. he has asked for our help not for your criticism Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Southern Patriot Posted November 12, 2010 Share Posted November 12, 2010 Oh come on, no need to make things personal. Deacon Brown already did that when he resorted to calling posters who were offering him advice "stupid". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blackhearted Posted November 12, 2010 Share Posted November 12, 2010 Mods can you delete some of these off topic posts please. I don't want to have to trail through them again to try and find the help I originally asked for and I'm sure those who have given advice on my question don't want to have to read through them either. Thanks Lol... People disagree with you and all you can do is cry for the mods to come and delete the posts from the people who are disagreeing with you in any way whatsoever. Grow up. Seriously. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrewJW Posted November 12, 2010 Share Posted November 12, 2010 OP makes a good troll. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deacon Brown Posted November 12, 2010 Author Share Posted November 12, 2010 Well, considering Deacon Brown's responses to people's advice in this thread, I really doubt his kid is going to be learning "good manners, politeness and understanding how to interact with other humans " from him. Hahahahaha What my son will learn is to get all the fact 1st before posting or saying anything that could make him come across stupid. All those who decided to just post there thoughts with out 1st finding out the full facts are stupid. Not one of you asked me why or what I had done before resulting to blocking his access. If your doing a job and don't find the facts out 1st you could end up losing your job, my son will learn these important skills to make sure he does not make the same mistake a lot of you have shown on here. As for manners and politeness, I have both and choose to use them when needed, do you think it was polite or that others showed manners when they assumed my situation? I think you need to look hard at yourself 1st instead of just jumping on the band wagon. But I must say this has been enjoyable to read, so of your views are funny and a little hard to believe if any of you have kids that is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hellacool Posted November 12, 2010 Share Posted November 12, 2010 Deacon Brown already did that when he resorted to calling posters who were offering him advice "stupid". It can be frustrating when you ask for technical advice in a Internet, network and security thread and all you get is parental advice from people. Half of which probably do not have kids and or are kids themselves. And without knowing any back story. So he may have a point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
majortom1981 Posted November 12, 2010 Share Posted November 12, 2010 Why not just stop him from using his pc at all? When i had to study i had to sit at the dinning room table. No access to tv or anything. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hellacool Posted November 12, 2010 Share Posted November 12, 2010 OP makes a good troll. Can you even troll your own thread? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WelshBluebird Posted November 12, 2010 Share Posted November 12, 2010 are kids themselves. Exactly, so we are better positioned to know how the kid will react as some of us haven't long passed that part of our lives. I know for certain that if my parents had simply tried to block websites etc, then I would have wasted time trying to get around the blocks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StrikedOut Posted November 12, 2010 Share Posted November 12, 2010 @ Roadwarrior, the only time there was any name calling was here. Lol you clearly have no idea do you. ............ If you think being on facebook is good for him to socialise then a lot of you are very stupid or uneducated. ........... when he responded to "Messed up parents who want to rule their kids rather than love them. If you love him you will drop this BS. You think you are protecting him? Teaching him about responsibility? What about yours? Help your son while he studies instead. Occam's razor?" I would call someone stupid (and rightly so) or at the very least, the comment, if they questioned my parenting abilities based on a request for help to block a website. Would you not think the person was stupid for telling you, you are a 'Messed up parents who want to rule their kids rather than love them' cause you want to temporarily block a site while they studied?? Could you possibly be more arrogant?? Pot, kettle, black?? People (including someone who works with child services, no less) offer you friendly advice as to why your strategy is likely to be ineffective (or actually make things worse), and this is your response? Calling people here stupid like that makes you sound less mature than your child. Like it or not, Facebook is now a primary method that people of all ages (school children included) use to communicate with each other, and some schools and teachers even make use of that to disseminate information. Sorry Roadwarrior, you got it wrong here. The person whom he called stupid offered him nothing except to question his ability to parent based on a simple question. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WelshBluebird Posted November 12, 2010 Share Posted November 12, 2010 Why not just stop him from using his pc at all? When i had to study i had to sit at the dinning room table. No access to tv or anything. To be fair, alot of study material these days is online. When I was in sixth form (18 years old), one of our Physics modules was done online. No textbooks or worksheets. All online using study websites, online tests and the like. And even in uni, maybe its because I'm doing Computer Science, but an awful lot of our work is done over the internet (assignments are set online, and we are expected to upload our work). So using a computer may be nessessary. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
majortom1981 Posted November 12, 2010 Share Posted November 12, 2010 To be fair, alot of study material these days is online. When I was in sixth form (18 years old), one of our Physics modules was done online. No textbooks or worksheets. All online using study websites, online tests and the like. And even in uni, maybe its because I'm doing Computer Science, but an awful lot of our work is done over the internet (assignments are set online, and we are expected to upload our work). So using a computer may be nessessary. Well then he takes notes from that and then studies on the dinning room table. I graduated college in 2005 and i had very few things online to study. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KiHu Posted November 12, 2010 Share Posted November 12, 2010 Hello Deacon, As already mentioned the Hosts file is usually a very solid way of blocking access to something. Unfortunately this did not work this time, I find that strange, but I have myself experienced this issue on clients machines at work. Some things that has already been mentioned, like openDNS, Windows Live Family Safety (or is it security) are some ideas. If im not wrong with the Windows Live Family Safety if you block access to facebook, you are able to let him in if her personally asks you, it will give a box where he basically have to ask for permission from you, and you will have to type in your windows live credentials to provide him access. Maybe there can be a time limit set, don't know if this feature exists in WLFS. Just a suggestion, and good luck. Br da00 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glassed Silver Posted November 12, 2010 Share Posted November 12, 2010 To be fair, alot of study material these days is online. When I was in sixth form (18 years old), one of our Physics modules was done online. No textbooks or worksheets. All online using study websites, online tests and the like. And even in uni, maybe its because I'm doing Computer Science, but an awful lot of our work is done over the internet (assignments are set online, and we are expected to upload our work). So using a computer may be nessessary. QFT... I'm studying English and Theology at a college and I hate how all scripts shifted from print to online. I HATE it... It's nice if you wan't to search for specific information, that you can use a digital and faster search system, but I really hate to print out everything and WOE you forgot to download a file. It's utter crap! /rant Glassed Silver:mac Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StrikedOut Posted November 12, 2010 Share Posted November 12, 2010 Why not just stop him from using his pc at all? When i had to study i had to sit at the dinning room table. No access to tv or anything. The thing is the net is a geat place for reaserch. Besides personaly I dont think the answer is to completley ban him for using FB etc but to limit his time on them while he is studying. Dificult to do when the tool to access FB is the same one used to study. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrewJW Posted November 12, 2010 Share Posted November 12, 2010 It will always be tough, but everyone is individual, and brought up differently, their is no real right/wrong only basic laws and guidlines. I think the OP has the right to bring his lad up as he see's fit, and given we are making judgements based on a few paragraphs, when the OP has years with the lad, I think we should all take a step back, and focus on the technical side of the topic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
.Neo Posted November 12, 2010 Share Posted November 12, 2010 Doesn't Windows have parental controls? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeChipshop Member Posted November 12, 2010 Member Share Posted November 12, 2010 Seems the overall majority are going with the hosts file and it is indeed the way i would do it. Sorry your thread has descended in to a mass of people arguing about how to bring up your kids, it so often does when this topic is raised. Hopefully you can see that what i was offering you was sound advice and not trying to tell you how to do your job as a parent, although i should have taken in to consideration whether you had tried other options first. When you do come on to a public forum though you will always receive all manner of replies and this is something users of forums have to learn to deal with and not react badly to. To the people saying that Facebook isn't an important social tool... are you a 13 year old kid? Doubt it, so you really have no experience of how important Facebook and other social networks are to young people these days. I deal with upwards of 300 different young people a week and i can honestly tell you they use Facebook like none of us could ever imagine. it IS an important social tool to them and an accompaniment to going out in the 'real world' not a hindrance to a real social life, if anything it is helpful to what we would term a 'real social life'. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StrikedOut Posted November 12, 2010 Share Posted November 12, 2010 To the people saying that Facebook isn't an important social tool... are you a 13 year old kid? Doubt it, so you really have no experience of how important Facebook and other social networks are to young people these days. I deal with upwards of 300 different young people a week and i can honestly tell you they use Facebook like none of us could ever imagine. it IS an important social tool to them and an accompaniment to going out in the 'real world' not a hindrance to a real social life, if anything it is helpful to what we would term a 'real social life'. Personaly though I think its is about moderation. It can be too easy for kids to sit at a PC to catch up with friends but when this is happening on a warm sunny days and the friend is 5 min down the road then you got to ask if its time to pull the plug on them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeChipshop Member Posted November 12, 2010 Member Share Posted November 12, 2010 Personaly though I think its is about moderation. It can be too easy for kids to sit at a PC to catch up with friends but when this is happening on a warm sunny days and the friend is 5 min down the road then you got to ask if its time to pull the plug on them. Absolutely (Y) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Singh400 Posted November 12, 2010 Share Posted November 12, 2010 Flipping heck, we are not here to debate the OPs parenting skills. He knows his child best, not us. The OP asked for a technical solution to a technical question. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StrikedOut Posted November 12, 2010 Share Posted November 12, 2010 Flipping heck, we are not here to debate the OPs parenting skills. He knows his child best, not us. The OP asked for a technical solution to a technical question. LOL. True but that is the nature of the net...... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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