Tom Posted December 1, 2010 Share Posted December 1, 2010 So, there has been much debate around this subject area recently so it's time to see what people really think. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vice Posted December 1, 2010 Share Posted December 1, 2010 Yes I support them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tiagosilva29 Posted December 1, 2010 Share Posted December 1, 2010 Yes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iuerg87yerg879e0rg9erugjer Posted December 1, 2010 Share Posted December 1, 2010 yes, the world turns turns around with nothing but secrets of the goverment these days and i think its time to change that fact, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jakem1 Posted December 1, 2010 Share Posted December 1, 2010 Of course. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sanctified Veteran Posted December 1, 2010 Veteran Share Posted December 1, 2010 yes, the world turns turns around with nothing but secrets of the goverment these days and i think its time to change that fact, And Wikileaks are gonna change that? Right... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryoken Posted December 1, 2010 Share Posted December 1, 2010 It's not as cut and dry as yes/no.. On the one hand, there is information they have released which I don't mind them releasing.. But there is also a lot of stuff they release without proper vetting, they don't black out names, etc. Remember a lot of the Iraq documents ? All the Iraqi informants who just had their names published, wonder how many of them are dead now ? It's a good idea, but I don't feel it's being done properly. Information shouldn't be released where it will risk lives, or other things like that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Farstrider Posted December 1, 2010 Share Posted December 1, 2010 Without a doubt! It's time the world gets to know about the tip of the iceberg!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iuerg87yerg879e0rg9erugjer Posted December 1, 2010 Share Posted December 1, 2010 And Wikileaks are gonna change that? Right... they're doing there bit to help, not saying that this 1 organisation can change it but quoting from obama here "1 voice can change the world" and wikileaks is currently that voice Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
XIII Posted December 1, 2010 Share Posted December 1, 2010 I beg to differ. They are a bunch of obnoxious *******s who love to make war and stir up peace. Every country has secrets and they seem to target only US, making me wonder what their true intentions are. If they are real heroes, please expose Chinese, North Korean and Russian secrets to the world so that we know which one is worst. I am sure these countries did more terrible things than anyone could ever imagine... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iuerg87yerg879e0rg9erugjer Posted December 1, 2010 Share Posted December 1, 2010 I beg to differ. They are a bunch of obnoxious *******s who love to make war and stir up peace. Every country has secrets and they seem to target only US, making me wonder what their true intentions are. If they are real heroes, please expose Chinese, North Korean and Russian secrets to the world so that we know which one is worst. I am sure these countries did more terrible things than anyone could ever imagine... if anyone has secrets its the US Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wir3Tap Posted December 1, 2010 Share Posted December 1, 2010 While this stuff is of great use to people, Hell I read as much as I could so far.. I do not believe it is valuable on Neowin. The reason being, Neowin is a technology site, based on computer reviews, OS's, Phones etc. etc. When you bring Wikileaks into this, you are merging things that probably shouldn't be. As a Neowin member for many years, Things were not ment to slash country to country. We are all technology enthusiasts, not out to slash out against another ones country or their way of living. For the posts I have seen since the Wiki leaks topics have hit neowin, people have decided to attack the US, I am sorry.. I am not the one who made the Diplomatic cables against your PM,President or whatever is your country.. Don't tell me my country is ****.... Neowin is about technology..... Not about disagreements about Countries on the main page. You are just going to get into a shouting match.. If you want to go into a shouting match go into betanews.com and go to Joe Wilcox's pages and shout your match. I like my real news and real disagreements about Technology, hell go to CNN if you wish to. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elessar Posted December 1, 2010 Share Posted December 1, 2010 If it is general information that deals with internal US affairs, then yes, I support them. But if they start 'leaking' information that could potentially lead to tensions between other countries, then no, I do not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
protocol7 Posted December 1, 2010 Share Posted December 1, 2010 And Wikileaks are gonna change that? Right... I don't think anyone expects them to do that. But I'm sick and tired of governments thinking they can do whatever the hell they like without any fear of being brought to account by their own people. Seeing them sweat is a small comfort, but comfort none the less. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr aldo Posted December 1, 2010 Share Posted December 1, 2010 Honestly, I don't know... I don't have a straightforward answer. On one side, they are documents they shouldn't have. On the other hand, well, I can't put it in words. Let's just put it this way, I lean a little more towards the support, but not by much. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iuerg87yerg879e0rg9erugjer Posted December 1, 2010 Share Posted December 1, 2010 people have decided to attack the US, I am sorry.. I am not the one who made the Diplomatic cables against your PM,President or whatever is your country.. Don't tell me my country is ****.... then you should see the world as we see it then, thanks to the US our country nearly went into recession for stuff our country didn't do, we dont order people to spy on the the heads of the UN. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ScorpioRGc1 Posted December 1, 2010 Share Posted December 1, 2010 No. They have no regard or accountability for what they leak or what harm the leaked information (whether it be true or false) causes to people, foreign relations, or military or civilian assets. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fhpuqrgrpgvirzhpujbj Posted December 1, 2010 Share Posted December 1, 2010 I beg to differ. They are a bunch of obnoxious *******s who love to make war and stir up peace. Every country has secrets and they seem to target only US, making me wonder what their true intentions are. If they are real heroes, please expose Chinese, North Korean and Russian secrets to the world so that we know which one is worst. I am sure these countries did more terrible things than anyone could ever imagine... They don't target anyone, people give data to them, and so far it's mostly been US military folk. Not under their control who chooses to submit info. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
XIII Posted December 1, 2010 Share Posted December 1, 2010 if anyone has secrets its the US Yeah, as if the China and Russia are transparent with their policies, human traficking and black market weapon dealing /sacarsm. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
qdave Posted December 1, 2010 Share Posted December 1, 2010 more transparency is always welcome..so absolutely yes! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sikh Posted December 1, 2010 Share Posted December 1, 2010 It's not as cut and dry as yes/no.. On the one hand, there is information they have released which I don't mind them releasing.. But there is also a lot of stuff they release without proper vetting, they don't black out names, etc. Remember a lot of the Iraq documents ? All the Iraqi informants who just had their names published, wonder how many of them are dead now ? It's a good idea, but I don't feel it's being done properly. Information shouldn't be released where it will risk lives, or other things like that. Without reading the rest of the thread, this is basically what I was gonna say anyway. I support them for leaking information the people REALLY NEED TO KNOW, but not to black out names, etc etc is just stupid and retarded on there part. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jakem1 Posted December 1, 2010 Share Posted December 1, 2010 I beg to differ. They are a bunch of obnoxious *******s who love to make war and stir up peace. Every country has secrets and they seem to target only US, making me wonder what their true intentions are. If they are real heroes, please expose Chinese, North Korean and Russian secrets to the world so that we know which one is worst. I am sure these countries did more terrible things than anyone could ever imagine... Once again you post without knowing what you're talking about. If you visited Wikileaks before simply regurgitating opinions that you read in your local media you'd see that the site does contain documents from all over the world. Also, it's hard to take people like you seriously when you justify your government's actions by comparing them to the actions of other, less reputable, countries. If America wants to market itself as being the land of the free it shouldn't behave like a petty dictatorship and you shouldn't blame Wikileaks for uncovering your government's failings. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Subject Delta Posted December 1, 2010 Share Posted December 1, 2010 I beg to differ. They are a bunch of obnoxious *******s who love to make war and stir up peace. Every country has secrets and they seem to target only US, making me wonder what their true intentions are. If they are real heroes, please expose Chinese, North Korean and Russian secrets to the world so that we know which one is worst. I am sure these countries did more terrible things than anyone could ever imagine... You can only leak what you are given.... As for the question of the topic, yes I 100% support them. They are doing a public service by exposing the misdeeds of our governments. Of course, a word must go out to the brave people who give them the info as well Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jakem1 Posted December 1, 2010 Share Posted December 1, 2010 No. They have no regard or accountability for what they leak or what harm the leaked information (whether it be true or false) causes to people, foreign relations, or military or civilian assets. Explain to me why these people deserve protection. After all, we are talking about murderers and collaborators. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wir3Tap Posted December 1, 2010 Share Posted December 1, 2010 I think my point is proven... As again this site is a technology site, not a Political site.. This stuff yes in the forums, but not on the main page. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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