new Canon T3i / 600D

[crazzy88ss]

Canon has unveiled the Rebel T3i (EOS 600D) upper entry-level DSLR. It continues to use the 18MP CMOS sensor seen in the Rebel T2i (550D) but gains a tilt and swivel 1,040k dot LCD monitor like the one offered on the more expensive 60D. It also gains the ability to remotely control flashguns using its internal flash, a feature previously only featured on higher-end models. Alongside the camera, Canon is also launching the 18-55mm F3.5-5.6 IS II, a cosmetically revised version of its optically stabilized kit lens. We've had a chance to use pre-production versions of both and have prepared a Hands-On Preview of the EOS 600D including beta samples gallery.

18-megapixel CMOS sensor

Scene Intelligent Auto mode

Full-HD EOS Movie

On-screen Feature Guide

3.7fps continuous shooting

Wide-area 9-point AF

1,040k-dot vari-angle 7.7cm (3.0”) screen

Basic+ and Creative Filters

Built-in wireless flash control

Announcement/source: http://www.dpreview.com/news/1102/11020720canoneos600d.asp

DPreview Handson: http://www.dpreview.com/previews/canoneos600d/

I know a lot of users on here are often looking at entry level cameras.

Controlling flash through the pop up on an entry level camera? I hope Nikon's own sake they include that on their D5000 replacement.

[deactivated170812]

Nice. Although I think it's not worth a switch from EOS 550D.

[Draconian Guppy]

Controlling flash through the pop up on an entry level camera? I hope Nikon's own sake they include that on their D5000 replacement.

Agreed, this is a big slap in teh face for Nikon, they better get their ass in gear.

[crazzy88ss]

Agreed, this is a big slap in teh face for Nikon, they better get their ass in gear.

I don't know if it's THAT big of a slap because Canon is still brand new to pop-ups controlling flash.

[maash]

the bigger slap in the face is that Canon comes out with a swivel screen for the T3i and expects the consumer to pay 200$ more for a camera which is the exactly same as the T2i except for the swivel screen. I know 3 people who are sticking with the T2i because T3i is not worth it. They said it would be better to upgrade to the 60D than the T3i because it will be cheaper

[Buttus]

T3i is good because it'll make the T2i cheaper!

and i'm still waiting for an upgrade to the 7D, if that's even possible...

[torrentthief]

t3i should have added autofocus for video recording or some other useful features, a new screen and flash support is barely an upgrade at all. It will be nice for a pricedrop on the T2i.

[crazzy88ss]

Yea I read the release and I my first thought was "uhhh so? who cares?" It's not much of an upgrade... Do people really even use swivel screens much? I guess they're slightly useful for video...

[Draconian Guppy]

I don't know if it's THAT big of a slap because Canon is still brand new to pop-ups controlling flash.

It's competition! more features on entry level and less neutered cameras

[richardsim7]

How does the controlling of external flashes using the pop-up one work? :s

[figgy]

t3i should have added autofocus for video recording.

That is the primary feature I have been waiting for.

Here is hoping that Canon will release an APS-C sensor equipped mirrorless camera with video autofocus this year.

[richardsim7]

That is the primary feature I have been waiting for.

Here is hoping that Canon will release an APS-C sensor equipped mirrorless camera with video autofocus this year.

Mirrorless? :s

[crazzy88ss]

How does the controlling of external flashes using the pop-up one work? :s

Basically, it's like an optical cable, only it goes through the air.

The flash units, Nikon's current range is SB600, 700 and 900, have optical receivers on them that look for the coded message sent out by the pop up flash. The pop up flash send the signal out fractions of a second before it takes the photo. If you tell the pop up flash to send the signal, you can actually detect a slight delay of about .25-0.5 seconds(at least you can on my D90) before the picture is taken.

There are limitations to it, for example in best case scenarios you're limited to about 300 feet and the flash units need to see your pop up flash directly if you're working out doors.

Indoors they work brilliantly in a room. You can even shoot TTL with them, so you don't have to bother dealing with flash ratios or things like that. For more info check out Joe McNally or David Hobby (Strobist). Those two are pretty awesome (and they're going on Tour starting next month; I have a ticket!).

hope that helps.

Mirrorless? :s

yea... they're starting to head that way. I can't imagine that those cameras will be very good for any "pro" level applications.

[Argote]

18-megapixel CMOS sensor

Scene Intelligent Auto mode

Full-HD EOS Movie

On-screen Feature Guide

3.7fps continuous shooting

Wide-area 9-point AF

1,040k-dot vari-angle 7.7cm (3.0?) screen

Basic+ and Creative Filters

Built-in wireless flash control

Controlling flash through the pop up on an entry level camera? I hope Nikon's own sake they include that on their D5000 replacement.

To be honest this is barely an upgrade. Sony has pulled a couple of these releases haha...

And not including pop-up control on entry level bodies is BS, my entry level A200 can do that.

[+Warwagon MVC]

I think the rotating display makes it look less like an SLR and more like a cheaper Digital camera.

[o0moonman0o]

canon new products these days... lol. in chinese we would use this word 沒誠意。

[crazzy88ss]

no faith?

[Argote]

no faith?

Well, the 60D and now the 600D have been somewhat underwhelming. The 1100D is OK but nothing to write home about, it was about time to replace the incredibly outdated 1000D.

[qdave]

I think the rotating display makes it look less like an SLR and more like a cheaper Digital camera.

Maybe, but at the same time it might be usefull on certain occasions...like close to the ground shots, or when you raise your camera above your head :D

[saxondale.]

might be tempted to get a 550d as my second video camera, since it's going to come down in price :D

[maash]

might be tempted to get a 550d as my second video camera, since it's going to come down in price :D

i got it recently on ebay with a 18-55mm IS lens for $599 shipped. it is coming down for sure

Canon though seriously needs to create a ripple in the industry like Nikon did with the Nikon D7000. Canon is too focuses on adding mini features instead of improving the very basics of camera and video like Nikon did with D7000. Also it seems Canon does not really interact with their consumers. Nikon on the other hand started the initiative to interact through social networks and their websites with their consumers by giving tips, tutorials, promoting their camera's in small cities.

[Bassem]

Having just bought the T2i a few months back, I must say, I'm glad I did it.

[Tamilboy86]

Basically, it's like an optical cable, only it goes through the air.

The flash units, Nikon's current range is SB600, 700 and 900, have optical receivers on them that look for the coded message sent out by the pop up flash. The pop up flash send the signal out fractions of a second before it takes the photo. If you tell the pop up flash to send the signal, you can actually detect a slight delay of about .25-0.5 seconds(at least you can on my D90) before the picture is taken.

There are limitations to it, for example in best case scenarios you're limited to about 300 feet and the flash units need to see your pop up flash directly if you're working out doors.

Indoors they work brilliantly in a room. You can even shoot TTL with them, so you don't have to bother dealing with flash ratios or things like that. For more info check out Joe McNally or David Hobby (Strobist). Those two are pretty awesome (and they're going on Tour starting next month; I have a ticket!).

hope that helps.

yea... they're starting to head that way. I can't imagine that those cameras will be very good for any "pro" level applications.

Isn't that the same thing you could do with the old ones ?... With my EOS 400D I can use my pop up flash to fire my external Sigma flash, but both flashes will affect the image... Will this new feature only fire the external flash?

[remus_lupin]

Isn't that the same thing you could do with the old ones ?... With my EOS 400D I can use my pop up flash to fire my external Sigma flash, but both flashes will affect the image... Will this new feature only fire the external flash?

nope, its not the same thing, as he mentioned, the pop up flash will send out the signal BEFORE it takes the photo. So the pop-up flash sends a signal essentially telling the slave(s) to get ready. Then when the camera takes the actual photo, only the slave's are exposing the shot not the pop-up flash

[crazzy88ss]

Isn't that the same thing you could do with the old ones ?... With my EOS 400D I can use my pop up flash to fire my external Sigma flash, but both flashes will affect the image... Will this new feature only fire the external flash?

The sigma flash is in dummy "slave" mode, meaning it'll fire when you see ANY flash. The flash I'm talking about lets you control the flash output either manually or TTL FROM the camera. You can't do that w/ the Sigma flash.