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Um me?

I wanted to pay the full amount up front and forget about it, im not made of money and probably wouldnt have had the cash to spare when it finally releases. I didnt know that they only refund in store credit and not actual refund before i bought it.

No im not just raging about early access although i was one of the people who pre-ordered MOH:LE just to get access to BF3 beta, im raging at the fragmented game due to different DLC being available at different retailers. I pre-ordered day one and weeks later EA/DICE started to offer newer and different incentives to all the different shops meaning my fully pre-ordered game gets jack **** and everyone else who waited gets to choose which DLC they want.

I am a battlefield completionist, ive had, played and finished every version of battlefield and because i want all the DLC like specact, physical weapons pack, dogtags, etc.. im raging at EA/DICE because i cant get them all because id have to pre-order it 3/4 times just to get all the DLC its disgusting they treat Battlefield Veterans like that.

Erm, you are not missing out on much to be honest. A couple of player skins? Some dogtags? Meh, imo nothing to get worked up about. Hell, I wouldn't be surprised if they offer those perks sometime later for $5 or so, like in BC2.

And YAY today finally pre-ordered it. On Origin. I guess I'll go to hell now...

No, YOU are not missing out on much. I want ALL the DLC.

What makes you think i am worked up about it, it just annoys the **** out of me how they can claim BF3 will be all about the PC and then they go and split all the DLC incentives up so someone who is a high ranking BF Veteran can get all the content unless he buys the game a few times.

No, YOU are not missing out on much. I want ALL the DLC.

What makes you think i am worked up about it, it just annoys the **** out of me how they can claim BF3 will be all about the PC and then they go and split all the DLC incentives up so someone who is a high ranking BF Veteran can get all the content unless he buys the game a few times.

If you pre-order on Origin you get all the DLCs announced so far.

If you pre-order on Origin you get all the DLCs announced so far.

Yes but i pre-ordered and paid in full on day one before Origin was even out. Im not pre-ordering AGAIN just to get DLC. Ive got ?30odd in store credit i cant transfer back to my card now after cancelling pre-order.

Yes but i pre-ordered and paid in full on day one before Origin was even out. Im not pre-ordering AGAIN just to get DLC. Ive got ?30odd in store credit i cant transfer back to my card now after cancelling pre-order.

I pre-ordered it as soon as it was available on eastore, before origin went live. And an eastore preorder is automatically converted to origin.

Battlefield 3 won't be sold on Steam; EA claims service 'restricts our ability to directly support players'

EA's big holiday release, Battlefield 3, apparently won't be available via Valve's ubiquitous PC game download service, Steam, as previously hinted. Taking to Twitter and its own forums, EA announced as much with some interesting, if not inflammatory, claims. "BF3 will not be available on Steam as the service restricts our ability to directly support players," the Twitter account says.

The forum post goes a bit further in explaining the publisher's position, though it doesn't go so far as to explicitly explain the schism. "Steam has adopted a set of restrictive terms of service which limit how developers interact with customers to deliver patches and other downloadable content," the forum post reads. "No other download service has adopted these practices." As with Dragon Age 2, this is in reference to one specific part of Steam's Terms of Service agreement, which forces games to deliver DLC and patches through Steam rather than through a game-specific client. EA claims this to be restrictive, and thus refuses to sell some titles through the service.

It remains unclear why EA -- who, in the past, has offered a variety of games through Steam, regardless of the Terms of Service -- refuses to offer DLC and patches through Steam suddenly, but it certainly appears to be a stance the company is staying firm on. The forum post also notes EA's inclination towards resolving the issue with Valve, saying, "We hope to work out an agreement where Steam can carry Battlefield 3; meanwhile, gamers can pick from the more than 100 digital retailers."

Source: joystiq

Pretty unfortunate, but it seems like both companies are to blame for this situation. Valve could have relaxed their restriction if they wanted EA to have their games on Steam badly enough, and EA could have found a way to make it work through Steam's system, since Bad Company 2 had an expansion pack and a skin pack available through Steam. I'm not claiming to know everything about the situation (I don't think anybody outside of EA does), but I'm not about to pin the blame solely on one party.

In any event, I already have my pre-order through Origin, and even if I didn't, the beta access would have sold me.

This has to be about promoting Origin. Steam isn't the issue here. BC2 worked just fine. It's EA's game so if they don't want it on Steam, so be it.

BC2 had an ingame browser though, BF3 is launched from Battlelog which is a web browser based stats/server browser application.

Well since its not available through steam I just pre-ordered it on Origin. While I like steam and buy most of my games through it not being available on it wont stop me from getting it, I have no loyalties to any service. Also the beta access and all dlc announced so far persuaded me too.

This has to be about promoting Origin. Steam isn't the issue here. BC2 worked just fine. It's EA's game so if they don't want it on Steam, so be it.

I think they are both at fault. Promoting origin is definitely a part of it, but ea is still releasing the game on pretty much every other digital download store. Valve hasn't been very accommodating to ea when it comes to their games on steam.

I've pre-ordered it at an online retailer in the Netherlands. Since it's not coming to Steam it made think that having a game on a physical disc would be nice for a change. It'll probably be installed into Origin anyways, so it didn't really matter to be.

Can't wait to be playing this game once it's released :D I do hope that it wont be necessary to login into that Battlelog each time you want to play it online. But I'll guess we'll have to wait and see. It still won't stop me from playing it of course :p

I do hope that it wont be necessary to login into that Battlelog each time you want to play it online. But I'll guess we'll have to wait and see. It still won't stop me from playing it of course :p
It's been confirmed it's here to stay. There won't be an ingame server browser. It was confirmed on Twitter I think.

I'm one of those who won't buy the game since it won't be on steam.

I would have loved to see it better integrated with steam than what BC2 was (which had it's own friends and server browser system)... But I guess we never will come to that point now that they have started their own service.

EA has always had their own service, i bought Battlefield 2142 from the EA Store which is now rebranded as Origin.

Indeed, and it actually goes further back. I have all of the Battlefield 2 expansions listed under my Origin account since I purchased them directly from EA and IIRC, Steam was already around back then.

Oh well, if people refuse to buy a game because it is not on Steam, although it literally makes zero sense to me on any level, that is their choice.

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