mstrkrft82 Posted February 16, 2011 Share Posted February 16, 2011 Notice: Unauthorized circumvention devices for the PlayStation 3 system have been recently released by hackers. These devices permit the use of unauthorized or pirated software. Use of such devices or software violates the terms of the “System Software License Agreement for the PlayStation 3 System” and the “Terms of Services and User Agreement” for the PlayStation Network/Qriocity and its Community Code of Conduct provisions. Violation of the System Software Licence Agreement for the PlayStation 3 System invalidates the consumer guarantee for that system. In addition, copying or playing pirated software is a violation of International Copyright Laws. Consumers using circumvention devices or running unauthorized or pirated software will have access to the PlayStation Network and access to Qriocity services through PlayStation 3 system terminated permanently.To avoid this, consumers must immediately cease use and remove all circumvention devices and delete all unauthorized or pirated software from their PlayStation 3 systems. What this means to youCircumvention devices and game piracy damage our industry and can potentially injure the online experience for you, our loyal PlayStation customers, via hacks and cheats. Many PlayStation.Blog readers have asked how we intend to deal with these incidents that they have been reading about in the gaming press, and this is our initial response. By identifying PlayStation 3 systems that breach our guidelines and terminating their ability to connect to PlayStation Network, we are protecting our business and preserving the honest gameplay experiences that you expect and deserve. Rest assured, this message does not apply to the overwhelming majority of our users who enjoy the world of entertainment PlayStation 3 has to offer without breaching the guidelines detailed above, and we urge you to continue doing so without fear. Source Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/976194-sony-official-statement-regarding-ps3-circumvention-and-piracy/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
presence06 Posted February 16, 2011 Share Posted February 16, 2011 Source Did I miss how they are going to do this? Ban the username or ban by Console/MAC Address? Good for Sony, but how are they going to do it.. By identifying PlayStation 3 systems that breach our guidelines and terminating their ability to connect to PlayStation Network, we are protecting our business and preserving the honest gameplay experiences that you expect and deserve. I gather MAC address? Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/976194-sony-official-statement-regarding-ps3-circumvention-and-piracy/#findComment-593705794 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Digitalx Posted February 16, 2011 Share Posted February 16, 2011 I don't believe the law suits and nonsense are way to go but banning the consoles from online use is sufficient. Wonder why they never kicked up such a fuss with ps2 hacks like xploder and stuff...was interesting back in the day messing with socom 2 with it lol. Did I miss how they are going to do this? Ban the username or ban by Console/MAC Address? Good for Sony, but how are they going to do it.. I gather MAC address? It is mac address bans usually yeah Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/976194-sony-official-statement-regarding-ps3-circumvention-and-piracy/#findComment-593705806 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darth Radeon Posted February 16, 2011 Share Posted February 16, 2011 Hey it's Sony's loss, they lose more revenue for PSN sales for people who pirated COD and want maps; even though this is about MP. Microsoft does the same thing. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/976194-sony-official-statement-regarding-ps3-circumvention-and-piracy/#findComment-593705812 Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Teej Posted February 16, 2011 Share Posted February 16, 2011 To me, this says "If your console isn't connected to the internet, we can't stop you doing anything to your system". To be fair, I can see both sides of the argument. It's nice to have an "Open PS3" for those who can really produce some amazing homebrew apps but the PSN is a privilege service and not a right to all customers, if you want to use it play by their rules. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/976194-sony-official-statement-regarding-ps3-circumvention-and-piracy/#findComment-593705822 Share on other sites More sharing options...
presence06 Posted February 16, 2011 Share Posted February 16, 2011 To be fair, I can see both sides of the argument. It's nice to have an "Open PS3" for those who can really produce some amazing homebrew apps but the PSN is a privilege service and not a right to all customers, if you want to use it play by their rules. This. If you want to mod your system and hack it, pirate games whatever. Do it offline, don't bring it online and ruin the experience for everyone. Play by the rules or GTFO Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/976194-sony-official-statement-regarding-ps3-circumvention-and-piracy/#findComment-593705836 Share on other sites More sharing options...
_neutrino Veteran Posted February 16, 2011 Veteran Share Posted February 16, 2011 so far as I am concerned I think that they should ban anyone that has modified their device. Yes you should be able to modify your device. however, when your modifications make normal online play for other people next to impossible (MW2) then you should be banned. Even if you are not using it for that purpose you should not be given access to the option to do these things. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/976194-sony-official-statement-regarding-ps3-circumvention-and-piracy/#findComment-593705864 Share on other sites More sharing options...
mstrkrft82 Posted February 16, 2011 Author Share Posted February 16, 2011 Mathieulh: Reminder: If you get error 0x8002A227 sony banned your ps3 from the psn. Source Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/976194-sony-official-statement-regarding-ps3-circumvention-and-piracy/#findComment-593705874 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rudy Posted February 16, 2011 Share Posted February 16, 2011 I somewhat agree that modified consoles should be "offline only", but that also means Sony should back off people who do want to hack their PS3. I know that people cheating online is a shame but it just shows that companies like Activision are LAZY and didn't implement proper checks on their servers. There's no way these cheats should go undetected by the server :blink: Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/976194-sony-official-statement-regarding-ps3-circumvention-and-piracy/#findComment-593705890 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aaron Olive Posted February 16, 2011 Share Posted February 16, 2011 I don't believe the law suits and nonsense are way to go but banning the consoles from online use is sufficient. Wonder why they never kicked up such a fuss with ps2 hacks like xploder and stuff...was interesting back in the day messing with socom 2 with it lol. It is mac address bans usually yeah Think why, then answer. :shiftyninja:, matter of fact i'm out of this, sick of these dicussions. :sleep: Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/976194-sony-official-statement-regarding-ps3-circumvention-and-piracy/#findComment-593705894 Share on other sites More sharing options...
presence06 Posted February 16, 2011 Share Posted February 16, 2011 , matter of fact i'm out of this, sick of these dicussions. :sleep: Then don't read the threads? Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/976194-sony-official-statement-regarding-ps3-circumvention-and-piracy/#findComment-593705918 Share on other sites More sharing options...
(Spork) Posted February 16, 2011 Share Posted February 16, 2011 i agree we should be able to mod our boxes how we see fit but NOT to be a cheating bitch ive seen some crazy stuff on MW2 and Black Opts Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/976194-sony-official-statement-regarding-ps3-circumvention-and-piracy/#findComment-593705996 Share on other sites More sharing options...
mstrkrft82 Posted February 16, 2011 Author Share Posted February 16, 2011 Mathieulh: Hum... from what I just heard looks like they also ban the accounts and send you an email when they do. Source Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/976194-sony-official-statement-regarding-ps3-circumvention-and-piracy/#findComment-593706056 Share on other sites More sharing options...
ToneKnee Posted February 16, 2011 Share Posted February 16, 2011 Dear Sony, **** you Sincerely, The Internets Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/976194-sony-official-statement-regarding-ps3-circumvention-and-piracy/#findComment-593706062 Share on other sites More sharing options...
DirtyLarry Veteran Posted February 16, 2011 Veteran Share Posted February 16, 2011 And this is EXACTLY what MS does to people who mod their consoles. I should know, as I had a modded console. They ban the console from connecting to their online service, be it Live or PSN, but the console still works offline. It is the risk you take when you mod your console. Get caught, and you can no longer go online. Why people are up in arms over this is literally beyond my comprehension. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/976194-sony-official-statement-regarding-ps3-circumvention-and-piracy/#findComment-593706070 Share on other sites More sharing options...
iamawesomewicked Posted February 16, 2011 Share Posted February 16, 2011 Dear Sony, **** you Sincerely, The Internets So stealing games from them, ok... Them fighting back = **** you? Someone has entitlement issues. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/976194-sony-official-statement-regarding-ps3-circumvention-and-piracy/#findComment-593706096 Share on other sites More sharing options...
MightyJordan Posted February 16, 2011 Share Posted February 16, 2011 So stealing games from them, ok... Them fighting back = **** you? Someone has entitlement issues. *sigh* Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/976194-sony-official-statement-regarding-ps3-circumvention-and-piracy/#findComment-593706118 Share on other sites More sharing options...
iamawesomewicked Posted February 16, 2011 Share Posted February 16, 2011 *sigh* Yeah, you can try to justify it all you want. It's still theft. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/976194-sony-official-statement-regarding-ps3-circumvention-and-piracy/#findComment-593706130 Share on other sites More sharing options...
MightyJordan Posted February 16, 2011 Share Posted February 16, 2011 And this is EXACTLY what MS does to people who mod their consoles. I should know, as I had a modded console. They ban the console from connecting to their online service, be it Live or PSN, but the console still works offline. It is the risk you take when you mod your console. Get caught, and you can no longer go online. Why people are up in arms over this is literally beyond my comprehension. Yep, this post pretty much sums it up. (Y) I took the risk with a modded 360 a few years ago, it got banned after a month, so I had to buy a new one, and I've steered clear of modded consoles ever since. Similar story with the Xbox as well. Yeah, you can try to justify it all you want. It's still theft. You obviously don't know what theft means. The picture explains it quite well. Obviously, piracy is still illegal, but it is not theft, and that is a fact. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/976194-sony-official-statement-regarding-ps3-circumvention-and-piracy/#findComment-593706132 Share on other sites More sharing options...
X@vier Posted February 16, 2011 Share Posted February 16, 2011 when your consol gets banned can you still us the built in browser to surf the internet? or is a banned consol just not able to get on to the PSN Network? Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/976194-sony-official-statement-regarding-ps3-circumvention-and-piracy/#findComment-593706148 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Subject Delta Posted February 16, 2011 Share Posted February 16, 2011 Typical sony. Focus on piracy, and fail to admit that jailbreaking has other uses. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/976194-sony-official-statement-regarding-ps3-circumvention-and-piracy/#findComment-593706164 Share on other sites More sharing options...
lothodon Posted February 16, 2011 Share Posted February 16, 2011 Typical sony. Focus on piracy, and fail to admit that jailbreaking has other uses. Please god just stop with the bull**** excuse of homebrew. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/976194-sony-official-statement-regarding-ps3-circumvention-and-piracy/#findComment-593706172 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rudy Posted February 16, 2011 Share Posted February 16, 2011 Please god just stop with the bull**** excuse of homebrew. Do you really care about it that much? What's the effect on you if someone uses their PS3 for homebrew? It's not like they'll be playing online with you Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/976194-sony-official-statement-regarding-ps3-circumvention-and-piracy/#findComment-593706184 Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Frank B. Subscriber² Posted February 16, 2011 Subscriber² Share Posted February 16, 2011 Typical sony. Focus on piracy, and fail to admit that jailbreaking has other uses. The vast majority of CFW users (> 95%) just want to run pirated games. You know it as well as I do. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/976194-sony-official-statement-regarding-ps3-circumvention-and-piracy/#findComment-593706188 Share on other sites More sharing options...
grik Posted February 16, 2011 Share Posted February 16, 2011 Mac ban ? i dont think so, easily you can boot with random Mac spoof Address very easily in any machine. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/976194-sony-official-statement-regarding-ps3-circumvention-and-piracy/#findComment-593706198 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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