Meet Firefox 5.0

[apathy]

Font rendering is the same regardless of the Windows theme.

Not for me and others when I look at their screenshots.

https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/996094-firefox4-font-issues-with-hw-acc-off/

Can you post your firefox4/5/6 with a different visual style other than windows default with HWA off?

[The_Decryptor Veteran]

If you turn HW acceleration off then you're using GDI, that's it.

Loosing sub-pixel anti-aliasing is a separate bug (Which should have been fixed in 4.0 (was for me), but randomly breaks for random people)

[apathy]

If you turn HW acceleration off then you're using GDI, that's it.

Loosing sub-pixel anti-aliasing is a separate bug (Which should have been fixed in 4.0 (was for me), but randomly breaks for random people)

Only breaks under a different visual style. That's why I'm asking you to post a screenshot with a 3rd party visual style. I don't think it's random.

[trag3dy]

I'm using Glass Onion and my fonts are as they should be. I'm using the Nightly though with my "gfx.font_rendering.cleartype_params.rendering_mode" set to 2.

[apathy]

I'm using Glass Onion and my fonts are as they should be. I'm using the Nightly though with my "gfx.font_rendering.cleartype_params.rendering_mode" set to 2.

Can you post a screenshot with a menu open with HWA off please?

[Wakers]

I have the issue with third party themes. If I just use normal aero then the fonts go back to normal.

Sadly, I love changing visual styles so this isn't really an option for me.

[Kirkburn]

Here's an excellent rundown of the font situation:

http://forums.mozillazine.org/viewtopic.php?p=10786583#p10786583

Very informative, and dispels a lot of confusion about what is and isn't going on.

[vasa1]

Here's an excellent rundown of the font situation:

http://forums.mozillazine.org/viewtopic.php?p=10786583#p10786583

Very informative, and dispels a lot of confusion about what is and isn't going on.

Thanks for sharing that :)

[n_K]

Anyone know if that stupid security-whole ridden 'restore previous session' thing is going to be removed from firefox 5?

I mean, you can disable it but it disabled the 'recently closed tabs' in the top for whilst you're currently browsing so it's a very daft thing they've done in my opinion, and maybe other people's views just by searching a bit.

[Kirkburn]

Anyone know if that stupid security-whole ridden 'restore previous session' thing is going to be removed from firefox 5?

I mean, you can disable it but it disabled the 'recently closed tabs' in the top for whilst you're currently browsing so it's a very daft thing they've done in my opinion, and maybe other people's views just by searching a bit.

When you say disable it, what do you mean? Changing the startup option to not restore tabs from last time?

[n_K]

As in when I close firefox, not able to 'restore last session' when I open it back up again, but whilst I'm browsing, I can still go back to old tabs I closed in that session and my previous URL history is saved.

[+Audioboxer Subscriber²]

I haven't changed any of the font settings introduced with Firefox 6 (Nightly), out of the box it just looks and performs better than Firefox 4/5. They've changed something by default and until this patch/change or whatever it is hits 5 beta/Aurora I'll have to stay on Nightly. Going back is just painful on the eyes.

[kilara1988]

@n_K: If i understand you correctly you want to be able to save tabs wehen you exit the browser like in FF3.6.If so you need to change 2 settings in about:config to restore that behavior,since by default this is now disabled(and is very bad move IMO too.i very often use it).Now you need to set "browser.showQuitWarning" to true and "browser.warnOnQuit" to true.In my browser(FF6 nightly) "browser.warnOnQuit" is set to true by default,but both must be true for this to work.Hope this helps.

[apathy]

I have the issue with third party themes. If I just use normal aero then the fonts go back to normal.

Sadly, I love changing visual styles so this isn't really an option for me.

Same here. And those who claim to not have the problem have yet to post a screenshot.

[n_K]

@n_K: If i understand you correctly you want to be able to save tabs wehen you exit the browser like in FF3.6.If so you need to change 2 settings in about:config to restore that behavior,since by default this is now disabled(and is very bad move IMO too.i very often use it).Now you need to set "browser.showQuitWarning" to true and "browser.warnOnQuit" to true.In my browser(FF6 nightly) "browser.warnOnQuit" is set to true by default,but both must be true for this to work.Hope this helps.

It restores the 'save tabs on quit' message but still has the 'restore previous session' function and works, which is what I'm trying to disable from ever working again.

[Quazzi]

Same here. And those who claim to not have the problem have yet to post a screenshot.

This is just a shot in the dark but maybe try renaming one of your themes aero.msstyles and edit the corresponding .theme file. Maybe that would "trick" Fx into "thinking" you were using the default.

[Excelsis]

This is just a shot in the dark but maybe try renaming one of your themes aero.msstyles and edit the corresponding .theme file. Maybe that would "trick" Fx into "thinking" you were using the default.

This works for the blue-ish color. I'd assume it will work for fonts too as I only use custom themes and dont have any issues with the fonts.

[The_Decryptor Veteran]

Here's an excellent rundown of the font situation:

http://forums.mozillazine.org/viewtopic.php?p=10786583#p10786583

Very informative, and dispels a lot of confusion about what is and isn't going on.

Good post, although I'm concerned about the bit at the bottom (I much prefer the proper positioning everywhere, I don't want my browser to randomly change it because some people don't like it)

[apathy]

This is just a shot in the dark but maybe try renaming one of your themes aero.msstyles and edit the corresponding .theme file. Maybe that would "trick" Fx into "thinking" you were using the default.

I'm having trouble doing this.

1. I apply a different VS

2. I restart the computer to free aero from memory

3. I take ownership of the aero.msstyles and .theme files and rename them aero1

4. I rename the theme I want to use to aero.msstyles and aero.theme

When I try to apply the theme I'd hear the beep to confirm the theme change but the theme doesn't change. Did I miss a step?

[Wakers]

Here's the thing, while the fonts improve when I go back to aero, I still notice some very poor colouring on small fonts, particuarly in the menus. Some letters are so badly rendered that they look either pink, blue or green.

Turning off hardware acceleration and messing about with about:config doesn't seem to alter this.

[Kirkburn]

@n_K: If i understand you correctly you want to be able to save tabs wehen you exit the browser like in FF3.6.If so you need to change 2 settings in about:config to restore that behavior,since by default this is now disabled(and is very bad move IMO too.i very often use it).

No, you don't?

Just look at the first option on the General tab in Options. Make sure it is set to show windows and tabs from last time.

All they did was remove the somewhat pointless dialog that asked you every time you quit, likely because very few people ever chose a different option on it each time.

Anyway, it seems n_K is asking to remove that ability entirely, which is silly. Would private browsing mode perhaps be appropriate?

[mancode20]

I'm trying to decide if I should try out 5.0 beta, or just jump to 6.0 alpha/nightly? I really want the new smooth animation for moving tabs, which I understand is only in 6.0 for now. Is there any real reason I shouldn't install 5.0? Do I just install it ontop of 4.01, or will it install into its own directory? As long as my extensions will work, the performance improvements should make it worth it. Will they work? Someone mentioned a lot of crashing with Flash 10.3, so that could be a dealbreaker. Anyone else experiencing that?

[SoapyHamHocks Member]

I'm trying to decide if I should try out 5.0 beta, or just jump to 6.0 alpha/nightly? I really want the new smooth animation for moving tabs, which I understand is only in 6.0 for now. Is there any real reason I shouldn't install 5.0? Do I just install it ontop of 4.01, or will it install into its own directory? As long as my extensions will work, the performance improvements should make it worth it. Will they work? Someone mentioned a lot of crashing with Flash 10.3, so that could be a dealbreaker. Anyone else experiencing that?

Currently 6.0 does not contain the new tab moving animation.

[Karl-Johan]

I'm having trouble doing this.

1. I apply a different VS

2. I restart the computer to free aero from memory

3. I take ownership of the aero.msstyles and .theme files and rename them aero1

4. I rename the theme I want to use to aero.msstyles and aero.theme

When I try to apply the theme I'd hear the beep to confirm the theme change but the theme doesn't change. Did I miss a step?

You also have to edit AERO.THEME afterwards, so it looks like this:

[VisualStyles]

Path=%SystemRoot%\resources\Themes\Aero\Aero.msstyles

[mancode20]

Currently 6.0 does not contain the new tab moving animation.

Thanks for the update. I might have to use 5.0 then. Anyone ever try that 6.0 test version with the smooth moving tabs animation that someone posted here? If so, was it stable? It was a .zip file, so there's no installing. I might have to try it out as well.