updates Meet the browser: Firefox Next

[dnast]

Yeah Chrome copied Firefox quite a bit from the get-go: all the tab shortcuts like Ctrl+Tab, Ctrl+number, Ctrl+W (to close a tab), etc. Heh, I never understood why Ctrl+J was the shortcut that brought up the download manager in Fx, but one day I did it in Chrome by habit and was surprised to see its downloads tab pop up.

I know it sounds silly, but not being able to go into the address bar and type "neowin" followed by Shift+Enter to get to this site has always thrown me off when using browsers other than Firefox.

These things are copied so users can simply get the expected (or best) behavior out of the browser and let the browser itself get out of the way. Modern browsers would be nowhere near where they are today if not for implementing the good features from other browsers. Just imagine how great the mobile OSs would be if not for all the patent wars.

[bogas04]

It SHOULD not matter who copied whom , what should matter is who implemented better. Also if you love chrome then go use it , stop coming to a deep firefox discussion thread and say "oh i dont know why firefox keeps copying stuff from chrome , chrome is best " or whatever...

On side note , http://www.arewefastyet.com now compares TM+JM vs TI+JM

Download manager and new refresh/stop/drop down button have landed to UX branch (idk about mc)

Over all UX branch looks really sleek and better. I think Firefox 9 is gonna be HUGE (considering the download manager lands in it and so does conditional forward button)

[Duke D]

Anyone know how to stop app tabs highlighting when their titles change?

[Samurizer]

Over all UX branch looks really sleek and better. I think Firefox 9 is gonna be HUGE (considering the download manager lands in it and so does conditional forward button)

While we're on that issue, does anyone know how to disable the conditional forward button? =/

[dnast]

While we're on that issue, does anyone know how to disable the conditional forward button? =/

I think putting anything between the back/forward button and the URLbar will disable it - including blank spaces.

[Samurizer]

I think putting anything between the back/forward button and the URLbar will disable it - including blank spaces.

Hmm, you're right. I'm not very happy about the gap there though. =/ Any way to kill the conditional forward button yet keep the default look unchanged?

[Udedenkz]

Is Mozilla going to wait until Azure lands for all webpages to fix these?

https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=675866

https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=657141

https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=593466

[+Zlip792 MVC]

Is Mozilla going to wait until Azure lands for all webpages to fix these?

https://bugzilla.moz...g.cgi?id=675866

https://bugzilla.moz...g.cgi?id=657141

https://bugzilla.moz...g.cgi?id=593466

Azure API for D2D acceleration landed in FF7. It will take time to replace Azure with Cairo 3D library.

[The_Decryptor Veteran]

There is no such thing as Cairo 3D, and Azure only affects <canvas> at the moment (has no effect on page drawing)

[+Zlip792 MVC]

There is no such thing as Cairo 3D, and Azure only affects <canvas> at the moment (has no effect on page drawing)

Cairo API meant to say. Something else was in my mind.

http://cairographics.org/

[mancode20]

Can anyone help me out with something? I noticed recently after one of my extensions updated, that I now have a new feature called Tab Stacks. It works just like the feature in Opera, I believe. How do I turn this off? Is it something new in Aurora 8.0a2, or is it one of my extensions? Possibly Tab Utilities. It appears on the right click tab menu. I can't find the option to turn it off. Any help?

[mancode20]

Can anyone help me out with something? I noticed recently after one of my extensions updated, that I now have a new feature called Tab Stacks. It works just like the feature in Opera, I believe. How do I turn this off? Is it something new in Aurora 8.0a2, or is it one of my extensions? Possibly Tab Utilities. It appears on the right click tab menu. I can't find the option to turn it off. Any help?

It definitely is caused by Tab Utilities. I have disabled it temporarily til I can find how to use TU still, but turn off the tab stacking feature.

[Duke D]

about:config

extensions.tabutils.autoStack

Set it to false. That should do it.

[mancode20]

about:config

extensions.tabutils.autoStack

Set it to false. That should do it.

Thanks!!

[+Zlip792 MVC]

Mozilla thinking of taking this to another level:

http://groups.google.com/group/mozilla.dev.planning/browse_thread/thread/9af570785f31411c#

5 weeks release cycle!!

[BetaAddict]

Mozilla thinking of taking this to another level:

http://groups.google.com/group/mozilla.dev.planning/browse_thread/thread/9af570785f31411c#

5 weeks release cycle!!

It's inevitable as competition right now is fierce against Chrome. Slightest improvements in bug fixes and performance are the difference between retaining or losing a user to another browser.

But on the development side, it's just way too early to make the switch as they pointed out many times in that thread. Devs are still getting used to testing and patching more frequently due to the faster release rate, and it seems like the the current 6 week cycle could be made more efficient. I don't foresee the 5 week cycle until at least next year.

I use nightly, so none of this really matters for many of us whether they use a 6 week cycle or 5 week cycle.

[+Audioboxer Subscriber²]

Any idea when download manager hits nightly?

[Samurizer]

Any idea when download manager hits nightly?

From Mozilla's track record, I'd guess right before the next Aurora merge happens.

[Kyang]

In the same vein of questions, when are the enhanced personas supposed to arrive?

[Aor]

Hope new UI coming soon.

[+Zlip792 MVC]

Decode on Draw landed on mozilla-inbound, will be soon in Nightly, so FF9 got another major memory reduction.

It will reduce memory on pages with lots of pictures.

[Udedenkz]

Decode on Draw landed on mozilla-inbound, will be soon in Nightly, so FF9 got another major memory reduction.

It will reduce memory on pages with lots of pictures.

If done right you won't notice any images blinking into existence

[bogas04]

In the same vein of questions, when are the enhanced personas supposed to arrive?

no

https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=590945

[tyler78]

Just downloaded and installed FF7b6. And fonts are terrible. I used FF7b before but i had no problem with it. Now it's very translucent and thin and weird. I upgraded my graphic driver but didnt matter. And the weirdest thing is, in about:support page, Direct2D's and DirectWrite's values are changing. It was true in the morning. Now it's false. My graphic card is 8800GTS. It's always true and no font problem with FF6.

[+Zlip792 MVC]

Little button streamlines changes:

https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=684450

Landed on inbound..