updates Meet the browser: Firefox Next

[IceDogg]

It's working correctly now on the latest nightlies. 10.0a1 (2011-10-08)

[+Zlip792 MVC]

Conditional forward button landed on inbound:

https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=682534

[BetaAddict]

It's working correctly now on the latest nightlies. 10.0a1 (2011-10-08)

Yay! :D

Glad they took the time to fix it.

[IceDogg]

Yay! :D

Glad they took the time to fix it.

You know what, I might have misunderstood what you was talking about. I was talking about when you type something into the url bar and it makes suggestions. You could arrow down to the next one, only a bug made it jump to the last one and then jump around. I missed the nagivate part somehow, so I think what you are talking about is something different. I'm sorry about that.

[vanx]

I can't say I am a big fan of this "claw back memory when you close a tab" feature, simply because I do not see significant benefits of it. I have 18 tabs open (no Flash or other memory hungry stuff) and it's eating about 2.8GB of RAM. If anything, the memory usage has increased.

[kilara1988]

You may want to check if one of your addons is not causing this or try new profile.Memory usage has improved so much.It must be something on your end that is causing so high usage.Or maybe there is a memory leak on particular site.

[nominak]

You may want to check if one of your addons is not causing this or try new profile.Memory usage has improved so much.It must be something on your end that is causing so high usage.Or maybe there is a memory leak on particular site.

No. It's a memory leak with Firefox. It's always had it.

I hear people say that it's gone or I hear... "Why have so much ram if its not put to good use" bs all the time. There is no reason Firefox should be causing videos to stutter just because it's using over 1.5GB of ram... And yes, flash based videos do lag/stutter when Firefox uses a lot of memory. This is why it's a bad thing.

The only add-on I have is AdBlock Plus and I've created a new profile and it still happens.

[+Zlip792 MVC]

I can't say I am a big fan of this "claw back memory when you close a tab" feature, simply because I do not see significant benefits of it. I have 18 tabs open (no Flash or other memory hungry stuff) and it's eating about 2.8GB of RAM. If anything, the memory usage has increased.

No. It's a memory leak with Firefox. It's always had it.

Please check your addons, they maybe created Zombie Compartment, also how old is your profile, do some maintenance to it with this addon:

https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/places-maintenance/
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Also make a new profile with new FF8 Beta or FF 7.0.1 with your likely addons and tell us for sure so if you find some bug, we can file it to mozilla.

[kilara1988]

Well i don't know why its using so much RAM for you,but for me it has never gone over 1 GB ever since im using nightly.It is usualy around 350-400MB.

[dnast]

No. It's a memory leak with Firefox. It's always had it. I hear people say that it's gone or I hear... "Why have so much ram if its not put to good use" bs all the time. There is no reason Firefox should be causing videos to stutter just because it's using over 1.5GB of ram... And yes, flash based videos do lag/stutter when Firefox uses a lot of memory. This is why it's a bad thing. The only add-on I have is AdBlock Plus and I've created a new profile and it still happens.

What kind of sites are you on? I just counted and there are 30 tabs open and 12 extensions running and I was a bit shocked that Firefox was even using 600+ mb. It's usually doesn't go over 400mb for me, but I'm not on my own PC right now (although I have even more extensions installed on my PC).

[The_Decryptor Veteran]

The only time I had Firefox use over 2GB of RAM was when I opened a page from a Google search that had 300-400 images all around 3kx4k in size., It normally sits around 400MB for me, going up to 1GB or so when I really exercise it.

Edit: So if it's using 1GB+ regularly, check extensions and stuff, because that's not normal.

[+Frank B. Subscriber²]

Another UI change is going to be in today's nightly: Bug 682534 - Implement conditional forward button for winstripe / large icons mode

(landing in the Linux and Windows builds today, Mac version later)

[vanx]

OK, so it is 19 tabs and FF is consuming ~2.6GB of RAM. The add-ons I have are:

- AdBlock+

- British English Dictionary

- DownThemAll

- Element Hiding Helper for AdBlock+

- FasterFox

- FlashGot

- LastPass

- Status-4-Evar

- TinEye Reverse Image Search

As you can see, not very many tabs, not very many add-ons, but the RAM usage is still sky-high.

[ToneKnee]

19 tabs? What are the bigger sites you use?

[IceDogg]

OK, so it is 19 tabs and FF is consuming ~2.6GB of RAM. The add-ons I have are:

- AdBlock+

- British English Dictionary

- DownThemAll

- Element Hiding Helper for AdBlock+

- FasterFox

- FlashGot

- LastPass

- Status-4-Evar

- TinEye Reverse Image Search

As you can see, not very many tabs, not very many add-ons, but the RAM usage is still sky-high.

https://addons.mozil...ox/performance/ might be interesting read. FasterFox has caused performance issue in Firefox for a while according to some. Please.. don't try to debate with me.. I don't know myself I'm just saying some have said so and maybe you should consider trying Firefox without it as testing. What I do is not use an addon unless I truely need it. Not just like using it. Just trying to help.

[vanx]

19 tabs? What are the bigger sites you use?

Depends what you mean by bigger sites, but I use Hotmail, GMail, BBC, Neowin, The Reg, Facebook, Twitter among the big ones.

https://addons.mozil...ox/performance/ might be interesting read. FasterFox has caused performance issue in Firefox for a while according to some. Please.. don't try to debate with me.. I don't know myself I'm just saying some have said so and maybe you should consider trying Firefox without it as testing. What I do is not use an addon unless I truely need it. Not just like using it. Just trying to help.

I will try that. The firefox.exe process has been running for about 5 days now, so I wonder if memory leaked gradually over time.

[T M H]

OK, so it is 19 tabs and FF is consuming ~2.6GB of RAM. The add-ons I have are:

- AdBlock+

- British English Dictionary

- DownThemAll

- Element Hiding Helper for AdBlock+

- FasterFox

- FlashGot

- LastPass

- Status-4-Evar

- TinEye Reverse Image Search

As you can see, not very many tabs, not very many add-ons, but the RAM usage is still sky-high.

I can't say what addon is causing havoc with your Firefox but on my system AutoPager addon and freewaregenius.com won't play nice and causes Firefox to eat 2gb ram and 60% CPU. So popular addons can definitely mess up Firefox.

[Azies]

Nightly install using about 223MB of ram, but I only have about three tabs open..

[+Zlip792 MVC]

OK, so it is 19 tabs and FF is consuming ~2.6GB of RAM. The add-ons I have are:

- AdBlock+

- British English Dictionary

- DownThemAll

- Element Hiding Helper for AdBlock+

- FasterFox

- FlashGot

- LastPass

- Status-4-Evar

- TinEye Reverse Image Search

As you can see, not very many tabs, not very many add-ons, but the RAM usage is still sky-high.

Which specific version of Last Pass before 1.5 version has zombie compartment issue. Update all your addons.

Twitter, Facebook, Gmail and Hotmail are very dynamic sites and causes memory to gradually grow up. 5 days, its definitely Zombie compartment issue and memory leak. I suggest to go about:memory and click on GC, Minimize memory usage few times and also use addon Place Maintenance 1.0 and clean little profile.

Nightly install using about 223MB of ram, but I only have about three tabs open..

jemalloc enable on Mac OSX increased memory usage for all over OSes, so please be patient, they will fix this issue.

[DexMorgan]

I've installed firefox on my netbook and it's quite sluggish (switching between tabs). More people share same experience on netbooks ? (chrome is way faster on netbook)

[+Zlip792 MVC]

Electrolysis related stuff... (not sommething big)

https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=692716

[Azies]

Anyone notice the new back and forward buttons in the latest Nightly?

Conditional forward button landed on inbound:

https://bugzilla.moz...g.cgi?id=682534

Nevermind. lol

[+Zlip792 MVC]

Backout of Tab animation:

https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=690227

[+Heartripper Subscriber¹]

Backout of Tab animation:

https://bugzilla.moz...g.cgi?id=690227

This is ABSOLUTELY dumb. I sincerely don't give a duck if it breaks a lot of extensions, that's a matter of developers. I rimember when an update broke an adblockplus functionality and caused firefox not to load some pages. Vladmir palant fixed the iussue in THREE days after the patch landed on nightly.

[+Zlip792 MVC]

Its not all about addons, it was causing 100% cpu usage on single core processor. (I own quad core), so it was not issue for me but for many it was. It was far from perfect, I use it a lot but even then I think it was OK and let developer make it more polished and refined. I am enjoying new conditional forward button. Also here is good news:

Experimental Electrolysis firefox in video:

http://screencast.com/t/co0keQy7MjP