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[+Heartripper Subscriber¹]

Its not all about addons, it was causing 100% cpu usage on single core processor. (I own quad core), so it was not issue for me but for many it was. It was far from perfect, I use it a lot but even then I think it was OK and let developer make it more polished and refined.

http://screencast.com/t/co0keQy7MjP

Yes but i think it's better to work on the new implementation without removing the actual. Anyway from what i've read it seems it only affects firefox beta, in this case, nevermind :)

[+Frank B. Subscriber²]

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[dnast]

This is ABSOLUTELY dumb. I sincerely don't give a duck if it breaks a lot of extensions, that's a matter of developers. I rimember when an update broke an adblockplus functionality and caused firefox not to load some pages. Vladmir palant fixed the iussue in THREE days after the patch landed on nightly.

The things that the tab animations broke are likely more difficult to overcome than whatever broke ABP. Apparantly the tab animation patch didn't use the drap and drop API which I'm guessing affected mouse events. They are just going to use the drap and drop API for the tab animations now. It'll also make it possible to drag tabs to the taskbar to switch windows, finally.

[max22]

Which specific version of Last Pass before 1.5 version has zombie compartment issue. Update all your addons.

Twitter, Facebook, Gmail and Hotmail are very dynamic sites and causes memory to gradually grow up. 5 days, its definitely Zombie compartment issue and memory leak. I suggest to go about:memory and click on GC, Minimize memory usage few times and also use addon Place Maintenance 1.0 and clean little profile.

jemalloc enable on Mac OSX increased memory usage for all over OSes, so please be patient, they will fix this issue.

Yep and Lastpass is used by a lot of people. I noticed that zombie compartment memory hog/leak issue in Lastpass before. Glad they got it fixed. Hopefully.

[The_Decryptor Veteran]

The things that the tab animations broke are likely more difficult to overcome than whatever broke ABP. Apparantly the tab animation patch didn't use the drap and drop API which I'm guessing affected mouse events. They are just going to use the drap and drop API for the tab animations now. It'll also make it possible to drag tabs to the taskbar to switch windows, finally.

There was something else added a while back that followed the same pattern (not using the drag and drop APIs), and it had the same issue as tab animations did (on slow computers, it randomly generated move events)

My Mac can get bogged down sometimes, and when that happens and I switch tabs in Firefox, it randomly thinks I'm actually moving the tabs, and will detach them or give me the thumbnail of the tab stuck under my cursor.

[Kyang]

The things that the tab animations broke are likely more difficult to overcome than whatever broke ABP. Apparantly the tab animation patch didn't use the drap and drop API which I'm guessing affected mouse events. They are just going to use the drap and drop API for the tab animations now. It'll also make it possible to drag tabs to the taskbar to switch windows, finally.

Wait, so tabs will still be animated with the sliding and whatnot?

[dnast]

Wait, so tabs will still be animated with the sliding and whatnot?

I can't find a definitive answer, but it looks like it's being backed out of Beta and possibly Aurora for now. The current tab animations patch has almost 30 related bugs and breaks a number of tab-related extensions, so it's too risky to keep it in the beta builds.

As I recall, though, some of the earlier test builds with the patch used the drag and drop API, so hopefully it's not too difficult to re-implement it.

[Kyang]

I can't find a definitive answer, but it looks like it's being backed out of Beta and possibly Aurora for now. The current tab animations patch has almost 30 related bugs and breaks a number of tab-related extensions, so it's too risky to keep it in the beta builds.

As I recall, though, some of the earlier test builds with the patch used the drag and drop API, so hopefully it's not too difficult to re-implement it.

Ah. I couldn't find a definitive answer either, but on top of that, I also didn't know that bit about the earlier test builds. Thanks for the information.

[aznkid25]

In Aurora, when I play youtube videos, all that shows up is a green screen. Anyone else have this problem?

[+Zlip792 MVC]

In Aurora, when I play youtube videos, all that shows up is a green screen. Anyone else have this problem?

On Nightly with no issue as such. Which Flash installed? Try reinstalling it and test with HW off and in new Profile?

[+Zlip792 MVC]

Another Priority 1 category MemShrink Patch landed on Inbound:

https://bugzilla.moz...g.cgi?id=673188

[aznkid25]

On Nightly with no issue as such. Which Flash installed? Try reinstalling it and test with HW off and in new Profile?

After updating to today's aurora build, it looks like the problem is gone.

[sathenzar]

I slowed down on using firefox unfortunately because they won't stop releasing new updates with no extensions working that I use. It's like by the time there is an update and my extensions work, one week later they stop. I love firefox still, but I'll use chrome till either the extensions get updated quicker (not firefox's direct problem I know) or they stop with this rapid release updating.

[+Zlip792 MVC]

I slowed down on using firefox unfortunately because they won't stop releasing new updates with no extensions working that I use. It's like by the time there is an update and my extensions work, one week later they stop. I love firefox still, but I'll use chrome till either the extensions get updated quicker (not firefox's direct problem I know) or they stop with this rapid release updating.

Try this: https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/add-on-compatibility-reporter/

and https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/checkcompatibility/

[kilara1988]

Most of the addons still work.Addon authors just need to bump the compatible version number.So i suggest you to try the addon compatibilty reporter(which disables compatibilty check) to see if your addons still work.And most of the time there are alternatives that get updated faster.

On an unrelated note.I'm stunned how easily people drop one browser in favor of another without even checking if there is a fix or workaround for their problem.They just want everything without any effort required from them.Firefox is the browser with the deepest customization and tuning(about:config preferences)capabilities.You can do almost everything you want.That is why addons are so much better than other browsers addons and in the same time this deep control over the browser they have require more time to update them.So as usual it has pros and cons.

[Guest]

Any changelog for the new update for firefox 8?

[+Zlip792 MVC]

Any changelog for the new update for firefox 8?

You can see from this:

http://hg.mozilla.org/releases/mozilla-beta/

[+Zlip792 MVC]

Some changes:

[Knife Party]

guess i'm back on current aurora builds, lovin it (Y)

[Brandon H Supervisor]

what's holding off the conditional forward button for the mac version?

[vanx]

https://addons.mozil...ox/performance/ might be interesting read. FasterFox has caused performance issue in Firefox for a while according to some. Please.. don't try to debate with me.. I don't know myself I'm just saying some have said so and maybe you should consider trying Firefox without it as testing. What I do is not use an addon unless I truely need it. Not just like using it. Just trying to help.

Good call. I nuked FasterFox and the memory usage went right down. Unfortunately, I had to find a replacement add-on for an ability to auto-copy to clipboard selected text, but it's all good now.

[IceDogg]

Glad it helped you vanx. I force myself to carefully consider every extensions (add-on) before using it. They all use some Memory and slow things down some. But, like this one, some are bigger offenders then others.

[max22]

Yep some people don't realize it is the extensions that are causing the problems not Firefox.

[bogas04]

UX builds to get some updates ( new tab page and updated download manager ) and finally Nightlies and UX build will run well on Win8 as of today.. :D

[.beta]

UX builds to get some updates ( new tab page and updated download manager ) and finally Nightlies and UX build will run well on Win8 as of today.. :D

Great news, just can't wait till they finish with the new GUI so I can test the features fully.