updates Meet the browser: Firefox Next

[+Zlip792 MVC]

Some goody good bug fixes:

https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=206438 (New Smooth scrolling algorithm - in inbound)

https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=705877 (Some speedup in CSS - in inbound)

https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=726396 (WebGL regression - in inbound)

https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=729878 (New Layout for New Tab Page - in fx-team)

https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=673381 (Some more info in about:support - in inbound)

https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=735014 (Incremental GC related Snappy - in Inbound)

https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=498998 (Standard - in inbound)

https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=697006 (Desktop support for WebApps - in inbound)

[V23]

https://bugzilla.moz...g.cgi?id=729878 (New Layout for New Tab Page - in fx-team)

Looks much better.

[+Zlip792 MVC]

Looks much better.

Same opinion. This one is much better than current one.

[BetaAddict]

Same opinion. This one is much better than current one.

Better looking but feels laggy with all the gradient rendering and fade-in-fade-out highlights when you scroll the mouse of the ones of the boxes. But it's a step in the right direction.

[V23]

The updated new tab page landed in nightly and it looks much better (although there are black lines on the right side of most of my thumbnails). Didn't like the new smooth scrolling update so I disabled it.

[escobar_]

No black lines for me. It looks great.

[V23]

No black lines for me. It looks great.

They're gone now, just had to re-visit each page and then refresh the new tab page.

[+Audioboxer Subscriber²]

Nightly won't update to 14.0 for me, fails on partial and full patch.

[ArialBlue]

Mozilla may try to oust Adobe Flash away from h264 enabled systems; a plug-ing free media experience may await us:

Asa Dotzler

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Mar 13 (3 hours ago)

On 3/13/2012 8:55 PM, Chris Hofmann wrote: > What's really needed from

here forward is a heavy dose of website

> evangelism, and/or some incentives for websites to convert over,

> and some easy and guaranteed path they can deliver the kind of

> experience with either codec.

>

> Do we think all that is in place?

No. And I don't think it can be put in place.

There is no easy or guaranteed path they can deliver the same

experience. They have to first re-encode their library of content -

something that no one we've talked to other than YouTube (and Blizzard

has talked to other large catalogs) is willing to do. It's not easy or

cheap and it's got zero reward when everything just works with H.264

(even for Firefox because they'll have Flash fallback using that same

h.264 encoding for quite a while.) Next they have to re-build their

sites to do the right thing with H.264, WebM, and Flash fallback (and

probably several quality versions of each of those encodings) for all

the different desktop and mobile browsers. That's no easy task, not

cheap, and again with zero reward.

This isn't a "do x, y, and z, and it will work in Firefox" like the old

days. It currently "works" in Firefox as far as they're concerned. This

isn't a "re-encode once and never again" like "re-write for standards"

was in the old days. It's "double the encoding load, the site burden,

and user support issues" for the foreseeable future.

There is no carrot here. A free codec doesn't help when they still have

to pay for the non-free one to reach all of their Microsoft and Apple

users. They don't get better performance or quality from WebM. They get

something slightly less performant and slightly lower quality.

We are not going to win this one evangelizing a more expensive, slightly

lower quality solution that requires a whole lot of effort with no

obvious benefits. No matter how well it fits our values, it doesn't fit

their values.

Had adobe included WebM in Flash and Flash Media Server; had Google

dropped H.264 on Chrome and Android; maybe there'd be some opportunities

to try to get people to move to WebM as a global web solution but I

think that opportunity past us about 8 months ago with the massive rise

in Android and iPad usage and with the further cementing of h.264 as the

<video> element solution - both with more site use and with Adobe's

launch of a streaming h.264 to the <video> tag server product.

- A

Taken from discussion Google thing.

[Kyang]

Nightly won't update to 14.0 for me, fails on partial and full patch.

I had the same problem. I had to reinstall using the version 14 installer.

[bogas04]

New Home tab layout landed to firefox 14 nightly

[escobar_]

Looks good although I think the search box could be a little bit wider.

[+Audioboxer Subscriber²]

The thumbnails on the new tab page looks terrible.

[bogas04]

The thumbnails on the new tab page looks terrible.

Yeah they do , they have just used bigger thumbnails but same crappy size of images... I think a new thumbnail service is on its way before NewTabPage lands for beta/stable...

[kilara1988]

The thing i don't like about the thumbnails is that they are way to rectangular and seem like stretched.They should be more squared imo.I don't use the thumbnails anyway tho so its all the same for me really.

[The_Decryptor Veteran]

The thumbnails on the new tab page looks terrible.

Yeah they do , they have just used bigger thumbnails but same crappy size of images... I think a new thumbnail service is on its way before NewTabPage lands for beta/stable...

Clear your cache or re-visit the pages. The thumbnail size was changed but you guys are still seeing your old cached copies.

[Guest]

I thought there was supposed to be a new tab page in Beta 12, I don't see it?

[Anthonyd]

I thought there was supposed to be a new tab page in Beta 12, I don't see it?

It's for Firefox 13 (or 14 if not finished in time).

[chrisdoland]

If you remove a site from the about:tabs page it stores your selection and will not show that site again! I accidentally removed a site I wanted to pin and know never can?

[Kyang]

If you remove a site from the about:tabs page it stores your selection and will not show that site again! I accidentally removed a site I wanted to pin and know never can?

If you bookmark the site, you should be able to drag the bookmark from either the bookmark bar or the menu, over to a spot on the new tab page. That will pin your selection.

[chrisdoland]

If you bookmark the site, you should be able to drag the bookmark from either the bookmark bar or the menu, over to a spot on the new tab page.??That will pin your selection.

Works, Thank You.

[insanelyapple]

New Home tab layout landed to firefox 14 nightly

Is that SoapyHamHocks's Australis or default new theme?

[+Heartripper Subscriber¹]

Is that SoapyHamHocks's Australis or default new theme?

You can find info here : http://www.neowin.ne...t__p__594719074

[bogas04]

Is that SoapyHamHocks's Australis or default new theme?

You can find info here : http://www.neowin.ne...t__p__594719074

Seems like people are spying on me :| :p

Yes its the userstyle and not Soapy's theme

[+Heartripper Subscriber¹]

Seems like people are spying on me :| :p

Yes its the userstyle and not Soapy's theme

I remembered you posted it cause the blue shadow :p