updates Meet the browser: Firefox Next

[ViperAFK]

My main concern about copying Chrome was the menu button, as I liked the Firefox button, but they actually did their own thing, and even the placement makes more sense with the way it works now (the menu pretty much just offers more buttons along the ones on the toolbar, so it makes sense it's placed right next to them). Keeps all the extension buttons tidy if you don't like them taking up space on the toolbar.

Yeah, the placement on the toolbar is simply the sensible place to put it, even IE has it there. I do wish they hadn't used the 'hamburger' icon though.

[i_was_here]

I'm currently using the Star-Button In Urlbar addon however instead of the previous white/hollowed look, the star is now a dark color. Anyone know if this can be changed with a userstyle? Or maybe a different extension to use?

[Boo Berry]

I guess it's because people see it as the "settings" icon.

[The_Decryptor Veteran]

I guess it's because people see it as the "settings" icon.

Yeah, that's how it's used on mobile, not so much on desktop because we normally have the space for menus and so, but when you throw minimalism into the mix it's certainly a useful idea.

And of course, if not the "hamburger", what would you use to show that it's a drop down palette of random icons? The hamburger isn't a great fit, but it gets the point across.

[Semtex]

Australis "Popularity" https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/classicthemerestorer/statistics/?last=30 Mozilla should reconsider this what happen...

[ViperAFK]

Australis "Popularity" https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/classicthemerestorer/statistics/?last=30 Mozilla should reconsider this what happen...

Those numbers are a very tiny part of firefox's overall number of users lol. firefox has millions of users.

[Semtex]

Those numbers are a very tiny part of firefox's overall number of users lol. firefox has millions of users.

Yes, You are right, but look at numbers, extension daily Users rise in only one day 5 times, this is just beginning IMO :)

[rsnn]

Yes, You are right, but look at numbers, extension daily Users rise in only one day 5 times, this is just beginning IMO :)

 

Last 5 days because its when it was released lol

[cetla]

Those numbers are a very tiny part of firefox's overall number of users lol. firefox has millions of users.

A more overall sastifactory chart:

https://input.mozilla.org/en-US/

[Max Norris]

Meh, as long as they don't remove the ability to customize it to how I want, they can paint it with rainbows and unicorns for all I care. That's what keeps me with Firefox versus something rigid like Chrome or IE.

[i_was_here]

Meh, as long as they don't remove the ability to customize it to how I want, they can paint it with rainbows and unicorns for all I care.

That's just it though, people customize their browser in different ways and it seems like with each new version there are more and more addons just to replicate removed functionality.

[Brandon H Supervisor]

That's just it though, people customize their browser in different ways and it seems like with each new version there are more and more addons just to replicate removed functionality.

that's no different with any other platform though

 

take windows for example. 8 aside there are apps like classic shell to make windows like older versions

 

there are similar things on android, ios, and osx as well

 

heck, just look at all the linux forks

[Max Norris]

That's just it though, people customize their browser in different ways and it seems like with each new version there are more and more addons just to replicate removed functionality.

Exactly, everybody does it differently.  It's totally impossible to make everybody happy, I know a few people who do like Australis out of the box (mainly Chrome users), but since it's completely possible to get whatever feature set the way you like it and it doesn't take a ton of resources to do it, it's not exactly a big deal either. Nothing unique to Firefox either.  Windows 8 irked me, added features back.  Gnome 3 ###### me off to no end, added features back.  And so on and so forth.  Austrailis aside, they haven't exactly removed a ton of features anyways in previous versions.  Between oh 19 or so and 28 I've had more or less the exact same plugins the whole time.  Austrailis had me add one.  Not worth making a fuss over considering the alternatives in browsers.

[ViperAFK]

A more overall sastifactory chart:

https://input.mozilla.org/en-US/

It spiked on the day of release, and is already nosediving right back down towards where it was...

[i_was_here]

that's no different with any other platform though

 

take windows for example. 8 aside there are apps like classic shell to make windows like older versions

You are correct. People weren't happy with Windows 8 when it came out and some are still not happy with it now.

 

Exactly, everybody does it differently.  It's totally impossible to make everybody happy

This is true but I wandering if there was a real need for the change. Were there people who were unhappy with the previous Firefox interface?

 

Not worth making a fuss over considering the alternatives in browsers.

Depends on how much you like Firefox I guess. Some people may be indifferent about browsers and can switch between them with little difference in workflow.

 

 

[Brandon H Supervisor]

You are correct. People weren't happy with Windows 8 when it came out and some are still not happy with it now.

 

you misread what i said. what i meant was "leaving 8 out of it" as classic shell has been around since vista or possibly earlier

[i_was_here]

Ooops my mistake. In my defense I didn't know about Classic Shell until Windows 8 :laugh:

[Max Norris]

You are correct. People weren't happy with Windows 8 when it came out and some are still not happy with it now.

You can customize 8 to behave virtualally the same as 7. Even throw 7's shell on it if that floats your boat.

 

This is true but I wandering if there was a real need for the change. Were there people who were unhappy with the previous Firefox interface?

Apparently so. But again one guy's perfection is another guy's eyesore.

 

Depends on how much you like Firefox I guess. Some people may be indifferent about browsers and can switch between them with little difference in workflow.

Well if "some people" aren't happy with the changes and refuse to make it how they want they're going to be sorely disappointed with the much less flexible options in the others. ;)

[Brandon H Supervisor]

This is true but I wandering if there was a real need for the change. Were there people who were unhappy with the previous Firefox interface?

 

well there was an addon to be able to move the firefox button so not everyone was happy with it

https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/movable-firefox-button/

[The_Decryptor Veteran]

There are always people who are going to be unhappy about any UI change, I remember people moaning that Firefox was ruined when they removed the original icons.

There were addons made to restore them, that's the best part about Firefox, if the developers change something then 90% of the time an addon can change it back.

[Pupik]

WTF happened to the browser? After updating to 29 and restarting the browser for the install, at the first start I though I got a virus and Chrome was installed.

The redesign took me by complete surprise :/ Any way to return back to the previous one?

[Semtex]

WTF happened to the browser? After updating to 29 and restarting the browser for the install, at the first start I though I got a virus and Chrome was installed.

The redesign took me by complete surprise :/ Any way to return back to the previous one?

https://addons.mozilla.org/pl/firefox/addon/classicthemerestorer/ :P

[Pupik]

https://addons.mozilla.org/pl/firefox/addon/classicthemerestorer/ :p

You're a life savior!

[Semtex]

You're a life savior!

Mehh, I also don't like Australis :D

[Lamp0]

Is anyone having problems with Firefox 29 being "laggy". The whole browser feels like it's struggling to maintain itself. Infact I just installed a theme(Mx 2.1) and I swear that's made it feel alot snappier.