ACTIONpack Posted March 2, 2015 Share Posted March 2, 2015 I don't see flagship in general dead. We have the Apple iPhone with most people buys the high end. You saw what happen when they made the C model. It didn't go anywhere. Google Android 5.0 is not really a good OS in general. There are a lot of issues only 1% of the users are using the latest version most are on 4.4 and we still have 2.3 users at double digits percentage in market shares. S6 is not much different better cpu/gpu, better screen and better material to make it. No removable battery, no micro SD and no waterproof. Android is Samsung Galaxy S. It's the brand that made Android popular. People on the Android user side don't spend $600 a year on phones like Apple users. Microsoft on the other hand try to sell lower end phone when there users want a flagship plus the Windows 10 will be the new XP with computers and I think with Phones. That's why if S6 fails then Android flagship phones will fail in general. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeston Veteran Posted March 2, 2015 Veteran Share Posted March 2, 2015 What? Harrison H., etacarinae, dr_crabman and 20 others 23 Share Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted March 2, 2015 Share Posted March 2, 2015 Are you still drunk from Saturday? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dinggus Posted March 2, 2015 Share Posted March 2, 2015 I'm confused, the Android OS got worse? I remember trying Froyo on HTC Aria and hated it. Tried KitKat on Nexus 5 and loved it, haven't touched my iPhone since. Nogib and etacarinae 2 Share Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
heslo Posted March 2, 2015 Share Posted March 2, 2015 I love this forum but the amount of dribble I've read on here from people thinking they're experts has increased dramatically the last few years Aergan, testman, Knife Party and 8 others 11 Share Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shiranui Posted March 2, 2015 Share Posted March 2, 2015 I love this forum but the amount of dribble I've read on here from people thinking they're experts has increased dramatically the last few years Drivel +E.Worm Jimmy, SoCalRox and Skin 3 Share Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
heslo Posted March 2, 2015 Share Posted March 2, 2015 Drivel No, dribble because my dribble has more substance than some of the ###### I've read here recently Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
articuno1au Posted March 2, 2015 Share Posted March 2, 2015 Drivel Dribbling idiots spouting drivel tbh.. Also, OPs assertion is baseless. No, dribble because my dribble has more substance than some of the ###### I've read here recently It really doesn't. EDIT:: Your post has the OP flag beside it for some reason O.o Thought you were the OP. heslo 1 Share Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
remixedcat Posted March 2, 2015 Share Posted March 2, 2015 no replaceable battery and no SD card slot it's gonna fail. HARD. since you all know how bad stock batteries can be... astropheed 1 Share Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
techbeck Posted March 4, 2015 Share Posted March 4, 2015 There are a lot of issues only 1% of the users are using the latest version most are on 4.4 and we still have 2.3 users at double digits percentage in market shares. That's why if S6 fails then Android flagship phones will fail in general. Ummm, 5.0 is now running on 3.3 percent of devices. Not sure how much breaks down to .01 and .02 though. But lots have not experienced any issues with 5.0. And world wide market share of the 2.3 OS versions is at 6.9 percent. But those are most likely the cheap crap devices or devices people never upgraded. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Android_%28operating_system%29 And since when does flagship mean the phone has to cost a lot? etacarinae 1 Share Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ctebah Posted March 4, 2015 Share Posted March 4, 2015 That's why if S6 fails then Android flagship phones will fail in general. I have to disagree with you on this. Android as a whole will go nowhere, it will be the majority Mobile OS for the foreseeable future and if one manufacturer experiences a drop in market share, it will allow others to step up. Samsung lost 10% market share in the last quarter, which is huge, but it allowed some smaller android manufacturers to experience growth. Markets will decide, that's for sure. In my opinion, I think Samsung should have kept the removable battery and SD card support as those were huge selling points for it. They didn't have to sacrifice those two to make their phones metal and glass. I know that previous Galaxy phones were built from plastic but I don't think that made them ugly. etacarinae 1 Share Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boo Berry Posted March 4, 2015 Share Posted March 4, 2015 no replaceable battery and no SD card slot it's gonna fail. HARD. since you all know how bad stock batteries can be... Yep, I sure as hell wouldn't purchase one even when there's an expensive 128GB variant available. microSD cards are much, much cheaper. Ian W, DConnell, astropheed and 1 other 4 Share Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Warwagon MVC Posted March 4, 2015 MVC Share Posted March 4, 2015 Ya it's sad. One reason I loved the galaxy phones is because of the removable battery, Micro SD card slot and physical buttons. Seeing how popular their phones have been, for some it was probably for those reasons, and now.... astropheed 1 Share Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boo Berry Posted March 4, 2015 Share Posted March 4, 2015 At this point I'd be content with buying a S5 and installing a custom ROM on it and call it a day for a year or two. +Warwagon, TAZMINATOR, Nogib and 2 others 5 Share Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
.Neo Posted March 4, 2015 Share Posted March 4, 2015 You saw what happen when they made the C model. It didn't go anywhere. For a phone that didn't go anywhere the iPhone 5c still managed to outsell many flagship Android phones. http://appleinsider.com/articles/14/03/22/apples-iphone-5c-failure-flop-outsold-blackberry-windows-phone-and-every-android-flagship-in-q4 I believe it was even posted here on Neowin. Dick Montage and Jarrichvdv 2 Share Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
techbeck Posted March 4, 2015 Share Posted March 4, 2015 no replaceable battery and no SD card slot it's gonna fail. HARD. since you all know how bad stock batteries can be... Years ago, I would agree with you on the battery part. I have had a few androids since and never had an issue with the battery. I even have 4+ year old phones, with removable batteries, that I never had a problem with. SoCalRox 1 Share Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LUTZIFER Posted March 4, 2015 Share Posted March 4, 2015 Lovin Lollipop on my flagship device, the LG G3. I don't care how S6 turns out, LG will take top place again with LG G4, of course. Nogib 1 Share Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
remixedcat Posted March 4, 2015 Share Posted March 4, 2015 Years ago, I would agree with you on the battery part. I have had a few androids since and never had an issue with the battery. I even have 4+ year old phones, with removable batteries, that I never had a problem with. replacing crappy mAh batteries with higher mAh batteries... also when the device hard locks up it's easier to pull the battery. astropheed 1 Share Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boo Berry Posted March 4, 2015 Share Posted March 4, 2015 also when the device hard locks up it's easier to pull the battery. Yep, that's one of the main reasons alone why I won't bother with the S6. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gradient456 Posted March 4, 2015 Share Posted March 4, 2015 replacing crappy mAh batteries with higher mAh batteries... also when the device hard locks up it's easier to pull the battery. when the device hard locksup its much easier to press and hold Volume Up + Power to do a reset. works with all Android devices. Combination might be different for different devices Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Warwagon MVC Posted March 4, 2015 MVC Share Posted March 4, 2015 At this point I'd be content with buying a S5 and installing a custom ROM on it and call it a day for a year or two. Me too! The S5 is still a beast! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sc302 Veteran Posted March 4, 2015 Veteran Share Posted March 4, 2015 samsung and android are 2 different things. The s series phone is not the only high end phone from samsung. The note is doing well last I heard. Not as good as the iphone, but still pretty good. Dick Montage 1 Share Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rippleman Posted March 4, 2015 Share Posted March 4, 2015 I see the point of the OP. Flagships no longer offer what they used to offer. There is very little difference between a flagship and the same companies midrange device. While the flagship may never die (since its just simply the carriers "best" device) it will not hold any ground like it used to. The point of diminishing returns caught up to phones years ago and any increase in the future will be even smaller yet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nogib Posted March 4, 2015 Share Posted March 4, 2015 samsung and android are 2 different things. The s series phone is not the only high end phone from samsung. The note is doing well last I heard. Not as good as the iphone, but still pretty good. Wow, I'm honestly a little surprised that the Note has sold so well. Not everyone wants a phablet but maybe I'm wrong if it was obviously outselling the S5 over the holidays. Yes, I know the Note 4 was newer but still. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
techbeck Posted March 4, 2015 Share Posted March 4, 2015 replacing crappy mAh batteries with higher mAh batteries... also when the device hard locks up it's easier to pull the battery. A lot of devices, you just hold down the power button and they reboot/restart from a hard lock. Tablets have been doing that for years. Higher capacity batteries, sure, but battery defects, in my experience, are not to comment these days and hard locks dont need a battery pull. I was a big advocate for removable batteries years ago but now they are bigger and can power my needs most of the time for a full day. And with all Androids using the same charge cord, there isnt anywhere I go where I dont have access to a cable to charge it if needed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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